Charlie Copeland is such a brazen liar
I honestly don’t know how he can sleep at night.
Copeland has taken on the role of “point man” in McDowell and DeLuca’s efforts to kill the Blue Water Wind project in the senate. To that end, he just spent spent 10 minutes on WDEL talking up a bogus “report” written by (I’ll bet) Randall Speck which he claims drives a stake through the heart of the project WHILE claiming, “I support the wind project…I think it should be BIGGER.”
What bullshit.
We know for a fact that Copeland was in the secret breakfast strategy meeting with Speck and McDowell and thanks to Copeland’s interview on WDEL we now know that focus of that meeting was to generate material for this “90 page report” that is so conclusive that Copeland can announce on the radio that the deal is basically dead. (He said “90 page report” over and over again like it was some kind of impossible task to read 90 whole pages.)
It is sickening.
Copeland needs to be fired by the voters in his district and Dave Burris needs to stop lying about how much he and Copeland love wind power.
Why are Burris and Copeland willing to front for DeLuca and McDowell on this? Why aren’t Burris and Copeland hanging the Dems out to dry?
There is much more to this story.
Let’s see. There’s GOT to be a Republican around that we can blame.
Please.
You know Copeland’s talking points:
1) Wind Power is dead.
2) I love wind power.
I’ll bet you helped pen them.
But why?
Let’s put it this way. Yesterday in Leg Hall, the Democratic caucus (including “open government crusader” Karen Peterson) met behind closed doors for hours reviewing the unreleased committee report WHILE the Republican caucus met upstairs with first BWW and then Delmarva and did so with the doors OPEN.
You know where the problem is here. You just can’t bring yourself to indict the Democrats, so you grab the first Republican you can find.
The fate of BWW is/has been/will be decided behind the closed doors of the Senate Democratic caucus.
Now you sound like a fool. I’ve been trying to get you and Copeland to “indict the Democrats.”
If you could get Copeland switch his talking points around – you might have some credibility.
1) I love wind power
2) Democrats killed Wind Power
Would be an improvement.As it stands Copeland is up to his neck in this. If the deal is killed his is just as guilty as DeLuca.
From WDEL draft says kill BWW deal:
Some lawmakers are discussing details of the draft, although it won’t be released until a final review by the committee. The draft was written by committee Chairman Harris McDowell (D-Wilmington).
Senate Minority Leader Charlie Copeland (R-Greenville) says the draft report concluded the Bluewater plan is not cost-effective. He says it also recommends Delmarva Power purchase onshore wind power and Delaware offer Bluewater a one-time incentive to build the project without other state-imposed guarantees.
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The draft is unavailable. Delmarva’s onshore wind numbers are unavailable. There is nothing new here but a screaming headline to kill BWW BECAUSE.
My bad, Tommywonk says that Delmarva did turn in a flimsy list of figures for onshore wind.
Senate Minority Leader Charlie Copeland (R-Greenville) says the draft report concluded the Bluewater plan is not cost-effective.
In your face Burris!
How is that in anyone’s face? That’s what the report said.
And had you been in the Democratic caucus meeting yesterday while they hammered out the final details, you’d know that.
I can’t wait for you to give yesterday’s meeting equal treatment to the breakfast that Copeland and McDowell had in a public restaurant.
You’re all fraud on this one, bro.
One of the things I like about you is that you are funny.
have you heard Blue Water Winds commercials? they are finally starting to hit hard
oh and
you can never be too funny
Of course McDowell and Copeland are for wind power; just not here and not now. They have said so repeatedly, and their actions have followed suit.
Interestingly, I have searched my memory banks, and Tony DeLuca has not publicly offered any opinion that I can remember.
“Interestingly, I have searched my memory banks, and Tony DeLuca has not publicly offered any opinion that I can remember.”
He knows better. And I’m sure he said plenty in the private caucus meeting yesterday where the wind project was killed.
Copeland is the worst, not because of his party affiliation, but because he is such a transparent fraud and loser.
He told Sen Peterson that he had been briefed and was okay with Specks line of questioning of the PSC – and then lied about that.
He is just s serial liar. On WDEL this morning he established himself as a leading opponent of wind power WHILE
brazenly lying about what a great fan he is of wind power.
I know you two hang out, but I’d keep a close eye on him Dave. He is not trustworthy.
Dave…opening the caucus would be part of opening government…another area your side gives lip service to. Sure, maybe the rethugs had an open meeting with BWW, but they went into closed meetings to talk about it later.
Everytime I read one of your retorts to anything any liberal says on a liberal blog where liberals hang and chat, I get a vision of the bully on the playground. You should spend more energy pulling your own party together. God knows it’s in desparate need of life support.
Question for TommyWonk:
Tom: Is John Carney really pushing hard for windpower, or is he just paying it lip service?
The reason I ask is b/c Carney talks about how his relationships with legislators will enable him to lead effectively. Yet, when you go to his website, he lists Adams, McDowell and DeLuca among his supporters, as well as Joe Farley, Delmarva’s chief lobbyist on the issue.
If he is so effective, why has he had so little impact on this issue? Is it b/c he’s tried and failed, or b/c he really isn’t as committed to the issue as he claims?
This is a sincere question, not a rip. I figured you would probably be in the best position to answer the question credibly.
That is a great question. If the blue water wind deal dies in the Senate it must be viewed as a huge Carney failure.
The Bluewater Wind project was killed yesterday in a secret, closed meeting where Karen Peterson was present. Those are the cold, hard facts.
“Dave…opening the caucus would be part of opening government…another area your side gives lip service to. ”
Yeah, because it’s the Republicans who are in the way. Get over yourself. The Senate just agreed to post roll call votes online, and they did so as a result of the actions of the Senate GOP Caucus.
“If the blue water wind deal dies in the Senate it must be viewed as a huge Carney failure.”
Jason — are you willing to admit, then, that if the deal happens to make it through that it will be a spectacular Carney victory?
I’m not really sure what color the sky is in your world, and I honestly don’t know what the final outcome will be (although I’m still hopeful that this can get done).
Guess I just want to hear you say it.
Why should Charlie Copeland care about reducing the cost of energy for Delawareans? He has solar panels on his house; it’s no skin off his nose if everyone else has to pay through their teeth.
I wonder how much in dividends he gets back from Pepco or any of its subsidiaries.
“The Bluewater Wind project was killed yesterday in a secret, closed meeting where Karen Peterson was present. Those are the cold, hard facts.”
“Yesterday in Leg Hall, the Democratic caucus (including “open government crusader” Karen Peterson) met behind closed doors….”
Notice the vilification that Burris has been doing to Karen Peterson lately. Her name is nearly spit through his teeth.
Obviously, the vilification is done to cover for the BROKEN PROMISE of the Repubs to sign the petition to get her SB 4 out of committee. It’s necessary to smear Karen Peterson by casting doubt on her commitment to open government to cover up the LIES the state Rep. Senate caucus told the people of Delaware:
http://delawarewatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/history-of-delaware-gops-broken-promise.html
FSP // Apr 10, 2008 at 10:51 am
The Bluewater Wind project was killed yesterday in a secret, closed meeting where Karen Peterson was present. Those are the cold, hard facts.
You are so full of shit! You don’t know what you’re talking about. All you know is that the dems held a caucus.
Dana, Karen said she was not privvy to those meetings, nor had a hand in the final report…if the dems held a caucus….who was at that caucus. If she said, she wasn’t privvy to it…I believe her, unless you have proof to the contrary.
Dave: Are you saying that all Republican caucus meetings will now be open to the public? If so, you buried the lede.
“You are so full of shit! You don’t know what you’re talking about. All you know is that the dems held a caucus.”
And at the caucus they discussed the committee report (which had not even been publicly presented to the committee). And all I’ve heard since is that the report killed the project.
No one’s saying Peterson has any BWW blood on her hands. Just pointing out her attendance at a closed-door meeting where the fatal blow was struck.
Ahh. Dana Garrett again with the worthless petition to get an unenforceable bill to the floor, where rules would have to be suspended to consider it.
Rules, interestingly enough, that Peterson wouldn’t vote to suspend to consider HB4, but that she now wants the R’s to suspend for her unenforceable bill.
Riiiiiiiiiight.
“Dave: Are you saying that all Republican caucus meetings will now be open to the public? If so, you buried the lede.”
So, Dana, if you’re looking for a reason for the R’s reluctance to sign the meaningless petition for the unenforceable bill, you may find that reason in KP’s about face on HB4.
Al — BWW wasn’t killed in a Republican caucus meeting. In fact, I think the House might be ready to go on their resolution. I was simply juxtaposing the closed Senate meeting where BWW met its demise with the doors-open discussions between BWW, DPL and the Senate minority.
“again with the worthless petition to get an unenforceable bill to the floor”
What total BS. SB 4 is unenforceable? LOL! It makes the Legislature subject to FOIA in exactly the same way every other govt entity in DE is subject to FOIA, which gets enforced all the time.
Dave is making things up out of thin air to create the impression that there is good reason for the GOP Senators to LIE and break an EXPLICIT promise they made on WDEL.
Clearly, the DE GOP doesn’t want open govt to actually occur. They just want to campaign on it and Dave Burris has fallen into line w/ their hypocrisy.
What a phony.
Oh, Irrelevant One —
Any bill that governs the conduct of the General Assembly must be accompanied by a constitutional amendment or it is not enforceable on future General Assemblies.
What of Sen. Peterson’s hypocrisy when discussing the suspension of rules, and her flip-flop on supporting Bonini’s attempt to pass SB4?
More convenient ignoring of that which you can not address?
Good to see you haven’t changed one bit. Happy irrelevance!
And the only real open government step this year has been the Senate’s posting of roll call votes online. That was accomplished by the Senate GOP.
So much for your idiotic rantings.
Dave,
Go play with yourself. Nobody wants you on their team.
Don’t be so upset, Anon2, because I’m having a good day. And if nobody wanted me on their team, I wouldn’t have to have an unlimited cell phone plan. Love, Dave.
didn’t dave step down to be with his family? I hope you aren’t on your cell phone ignoring your children….
Actually, my children are on my cell phone ignoring me. THAT’S the real reason I use so many cell minutes.
“Any bill that governs the conduct of the General Assembly must be accompanied by a constitutional amendment or it is not enforceable on future General Assemblies.”
Bullshit. Where’s the proof of this claim? You Repubs keep claiming this is true but you’ve produced no one shred of evidence.
The Court case Copeland cited and promised to give to Peterson he never gave it to her. I understand why. I have it. It has ZERO force of law. You guys pulled this obscure court case, which has never served as case law, out of your butts to create a pretense for opposing open govt, which you really oppose in truth.,
“What of Sen. Peterson’s hypocrisy when discussing the suspension of rules, and her flip-flop on supporting Bonini’s attempt to pass SB4?”
I don’t recall Peterson making such a promise. I recall the Senate Repubs making the promise TWO TIMES.
Besides, the point is that even if she had voted for it, Copeland et al would have pulled the same stunt.
But thanks for the admission that the Repubs REAllY DON’T have an in principle objection to SB 4. They are just being petty and getting revenge for a vote on HB4.
“That was accomplished by the Senate GOP.”
Where’s the proof?
It’s somewhere in Tony DeLuca’s office.
“It’s somewhere in Tony DeLuca’s office.”
Ah, once more a claim you can’t prove. Just another one of your lies. Figures.
I didn’t say I couldn’t prove it. But there’s a big difference between not proving it and it being a lie. Unless you’re an obsessed nutjob like Dana Garrett.
The Senate Republicans sent a letter to the Majority Leader informing him that they were going to post roll call votes on their web site if the majority would not assent to publishing the votes on the state site.
Do I have the original letter, stamped and sealed with DNA/PSA testing to authenticate the signature and video of its delivery? No. So it must be a lie, right, you flaming jackass? Or else it would destroy your whole ‘the GOP is only paying lip service to open government’ argument?
Consider it destroyed.