Chris Coons is a coward.
In one week, he has expressed an opinion about the Ukrainian crisis that should have come straight out of the mouth of Dick Cheney.
Dick Coons:
On Africa: “I frankly think we’ve lost some ground in the region because our vital allies don’t believe that the United States has the will, the determination, the courage to act, after a red line was drawn, was crossed, and we didn’t act in Syria.”
Chris McCain:
On Ukraine: “I frankly think this is partly a result of our perceived weakness, because of our actions in Syria.”
Yeah, you can go fuck yourself, Senator Coons. And that is my opinion before we even get to this:
Lawyers hoping for a political appointment in the future, take note: the U.S. Senate is now judging attorneys based on their representation of politically unpopular clients.
In a move sure to rattle the legal community, a majority of senators voted Wednesday to block the confirmation of a respected civil rights lawyer to a top Justice Department spot because he helped get a convicted murderer off death row.
All Republicans and a handful of Democrats voted to sink Debo Adegbile’s nomination to lead the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. The overriding reason for their opposition was that he once represented Mumia Abu-Jamal, a death row inmate convicted 30 years ago of killing a Philadelphia police officer.
Adegbile did not make the decision to take on the case. When he became the head of the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund in 2012, the group was already representing Abu-Jamal, and Adegbile continued to do so on a narrow constitutional issue. In other words, he was just doing his job by advocating for his client.
Many Republicans likely would have voted against Adegbile anyway. But several pointed to his past representation of the “Philadelphia cop-killer” as the reason for their opposition, and it was ultimately the votes of seven Democratic senators that did his nomination in.
“Why did we lose? Why did every single Republican vote against having lawyers defend people?,” asked Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), an ardent supporter of Adegbile, who currently serves as senior counsel to Leahy’s Judiciary Committee.
Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), who is facing reelection this year and whose state sits within the Philadelphia media market, said he thought Adegbile was well-qualified for the position, but was concerned that he would face “visceral opposition from law enforcement on his first day on the job,” citing the opposition to his nomination by several law enforcement organizations.
You, Chris Coons, are a coward. You face no opposition in your race for reelection. None. Literally. No one is stepping up to challenge you. And even if they did, and attacked you over this vote to approve this nominee, all you had to do is say that Adegbile is well qualified for the position and that his representation of Mumia was on constitutional issues after he was already convicted. And even still, are you not principled enough to stand up for the AMERICAN and CONSTITUTIONAL notion that every citizen, no matter what they are charged with, no matter their alleged crime, deserves a day in court and deserves representation by legal counsel? Are you that chickenshit to deny this basic right?
I am ashamed to have voted for you. I regret ever shaking your hand. We Delawareans desperately need to replace you in the Senate, for you do not possess the skill, principle or fortitude for the job.
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He showed his true color — yellow — back when he was NCCo Council president under Tom Gordon. He had plenty to say about Gordon off the record, but didn’t have the guts to stand up to him in public. Of course, he had reason to fear retaliation from Gordonberry if he went public, so I let it pass. His record in the Senate reveals that he was not being prudent back then, he was simply showing his true nature.
You nailed it, DD: He’s a coward.
Thanks for putting this up, DD. Even though people talked about in in yesterday’s Open Thread, I wanted to put something up that would show up on The Google.
I’m genuinely appalled at Chris Coons at this point. John Roberts gets to donate some pro bono hours to join the defense of a murderer (also on narrow constitutional grounds), yet here we have another instance of the double standard — this time a supposed Democrat is pushing this double standard. Adegbile has a remarkable record of defending voting rights, a thing that is sorely needed now that the GOP has more running room to restrict the rights of (mostly minority) voters. What we know now is that Chris Coons is not serious about defending voting rights. I don’t much care about Mumia Jamal — he is in jail forever, and from here it looks like justice was served there. Justice is still being denied to minority Americans who are trying to legally vote, and Chris Coons is officially at the tip of the spear of enabling this.
I am the child of people who put their lives at risk so that I could live my life as a fully enfranchised American. Chris Coons’ vote yesterday disrespected their sacrifice and their *genuine* courage in fighting for something that mattered.
I’m done with the guy. If anything because he completely refuses to represent me — At All.
This thread would be incomplete without the incomprehensible logic that Coons used to justify his vote:
”As a lawyer, I understand the importance of having legal advocates willing to fight for even the most despicable clients, and I embrace the proposition that an attorney is not responsible for the actions of their client.
The decade-long public campaign by others, however, to elevate a heinous, cold-blooded killer to the status of political prisoner and folk hero has caused tremendous pain to the widow of Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner and shown great disrespect for law enforcement officers and families throughout our region. These factors have led me to cast a vote today that is more about listening to and respecting their concerns than about the innate qualifications of this nominee.”
He now has a constituency of one. Maureen Faulkner. Yeah, the guy’s qualified, superlative even, but…Maureen Faulkner.
Pathetic.
This…
“I am the child of people who put their lives at risk so that I could live my life as a fully enfranchised American.”
… is not something Chris Coons can relate to.
If you’re wondering why Coons is in favor of war in Syria, look no further than the size of WL Gore’s government contract for waterproof gear.
Sorry guys, I think you need to take a deep breath and think about this. First off, even though as the appointed attorney–Debo will always be associated with the Jamal case. Delaware is more familiar with this case, hence the sensitivity around opponents. Does the office of civil rights really need this distraction, that the media and law enforcement agencies will continually resurrect? You know how that works. The guy obviously couldn’t have been associated with the case but 6-9 months, but EVERYONE is right there DEFINING him. It’s horrible for his personal career, and was no doubt a hard dismissal to deliver, but seriously—he would have been CRUCIFIED at any and every turn of the civil rights actions taken in his office, to the detriment of the people needing to be served. If you can’t get big buy-in at the front end—Chris Coons made the kindest cut–quick. Just think about it. Somebody out there will be “just right”. And don’t get snarky w/ me DD, cass,El Som, and Geezer–I don’t mean “right” as in Republican!!!! 🙂
Hey Chris Coons—I still love ya! But this is a tough crowd here–so I hope you can win them back!!
Coons has been getting a pass on his rightward tendencies for three years. The Ukraine comments and the Adegbile vote is just the breaking point.
The only way he can win me and my vote back is if he publicly admits he is wrong and actively persuades his remaining Democrats who voted no to vote yes, so that Mr. Adegbile is renominated and then confirmed. And then he must go to AIPAC and explain that he was high on drugs when he made those neocon comments above, and instead states that engaging in diplomacy first does not make America weak, rather, making threats of force often and always does.
Only then will I even consider voting for him again.
Joanne, your reason for supporting Coons is likewise without principle. A distraction? Seriously?
Is Adegbile qualified?
Yes.
Was Mumia convicted and serving his punishment?
Yes.
End of the fucking story.
Amen, DD.
I suppose Coons had to have voted against Obama in 2008 because of his ties to Bill Ayres and Rev Wright…. since he seems to think that a person is defined by the other people they have, at some point, had an association with.
Unless he is inconsistent in his morals. *shock.
Who wants to get on the “draft Ted Kaufman” train?
But real serious question…. what can one do? Is there a progressive group in De with the muscle to run a primary, and who ISNT a ditto-head for the Delaware Machine? I’ll gladly throw my extremely limited abilities and resources to a campaign against either of our Senators. This is freaking Delaware. We deserve better.
So much for me celebrating that I was finally a voter in a Blue state. What dark place did this guy crawl out of?
The only thing to do here is to direct the anger of the black community at Chris Coons, and hope we can find a non-white-male Democrat to challenge him.
“What dark place did this guy crawl out of?”
The WL Gore corporation. He’s a trustafarian who has never had to struggle for anything. Seriously, I have friends who work there, and without the Army contract for Gore-Tex wear, that company is on the rocks.
Hmmm… How about a battle of two County Council Presidents?
Oh good. we get to decide between a Dino and a Weasel.
I think you are thinking of the battle between county executives.
DD was suggesting Chris Bullock.
Yup. my bad.
That’s worth some more thinky-time.
My desire to always oppose Tom Gordon got the better of me.
Ben, I hear you, and we need to gather together everyone who wants to oust this cowardly POS from the Senate and get a serious challenge together.
The more I think about the move, the angrier I get. I mean, I am a 37 year old white guy, who thinks Mumia is guilty as sin and deserved to be locked away as a cop killer. And even I can grasp that 1) yes, even then Mumia is entitled to a fair trial, fair amount of appeals and legal counsel and 2) that lawyer is likewise not tainted forever as sharing Mumia’s views or endorsing his actions.
This action shows Coons has nothing but disrespect for his constituents.
Yep. you got it right. I sent an email to Coonss office asking when he became an apologist for Putin’s blatant aggression. Wonder if they’ll respond?
Yes, I was referring to Chris Bullock. Not Gordon.
@Joanne: We are not in times where compromise is desirable, or even possible. I voted for Obama instead of Hillary in hopes that the Republican prion disease was Clinton-related. They have instead shown that while they can personalize the attacks as needed, any Democratic politician, along with Democratic values, will be attacked.
Chris Coons is showing that his Democratic values run a distant second to his lily liver.
With a 123,000 (and growing) voter registration advantage, a DEGOP utterly on its knees, and $2.9 million in the bank, I can’t imagine what Coons is so afraid of.
But it is clear that he is operating out of fear. Maybe someone has some dirt on him? Maybe I’m watching too much ‘House of Cards’, but the wingnut shit he is pulling now simply makes no sense.
Is Chris Coons a trustafarian? Or did he marry one? I have heard 2 different versions.
LOL! I, too, may be watching too much ‘House of Cards’, and it is depressing because it makes a lot of (too much) sense. We finished season two last night and moved on to ‘True Detective’. On the plus side, Coons doesn’t strike me as smart as Frank Underwood. 😉
Coons might have feared Gordon. After all, the wretched convict scored 35 percent in the 2008 primary.
Don’t even think of suggesting a chameleon like Bullock for a meaningful office.
Man, this is the kind of blogging I like to see around here. I like the idea of a primary challenge from Chris Bullock. Let’s not overlook the fact that African American voters can play a decisive role in the Delaware Dem. primary, and this slap in the face to the NAACP could prove fatal to Coons. I for one will lend support to any reasonably decent primary opponent.
Good post Del Dem.
Let me be the first to call bullshit on the “Coons fears a primary” theory. If he did, he’d act MORE like a Democrat, not less like one.
C’mon people, THINK.
No, this vote, and his Neocon comments are not because he fears a primary. They are because he just fears being a Democrat.
He fears being a Democrat actually representing the People he keeps asking to vote for him. And this Neocon BS isn’t thick on the ground among his voters. Certainly not his primary voters.
He’s got Carper to look up to. Delaware keeps electing Republicrats…. this is a clear consequence of elections. Really, nothing will change until a REAL primary challenge actually takes out one of them. Nothing else will get their attention.
Glad to see all us white guys are making plans to mobilize the blacks and “direct the anger of the black community at Chris Coons” (awkward)…. Also, when did Bullock become a weasel? I missed that post? Not saying its not true, but this is my first time hearing anything like that about the guy. Seems like a good pastor and family man to me. Nobody on council has complained about him.
No, Black Cobain. Ben confused my reference to County Council President as a reference to County Executive Gordon, who can fairly be described as a weasel. Bullock was not being called a weasel, and I too have not heard bad things about him.
And not all of us angry here are white. Some of us in this thread are black.
BC, I thought DD was talking about Tom Gordon… who is a weasel. I dont have much of an opinion on Mr Bullock.
and..
“Glad to see all us white guys are making plans to mobilize the blacks and “direct the anger of the black community at Chris Coons” (awkward)…. ”
I caught that too… im sure it was just an unfortunate choice of words mixed with Teh INternetz ability to make everything people say look horrible.
This vote could definitely be used to mobilize the Civil Rights community… and the “We are a nation of laws, not emotions” community.
I called his DC office yesterday just as soon as I saw the outcome of the Debo vote. After giving the young lady a verbal dressing down she told me that the conversation had to end because I was berating her. I calmly explained that it was not to her that my anger was directed, it was to the idiot that was pandering to the law enforcement community.
Perhaps next time write a strongly worded letter instead of spit-roasting someone for something that a person they work for was responsible for…. kinda like this guy named Debo Adegbile who was denied a job because he…….
He can’t get a job, because he did his job. Strange logic to me.
One other constituency that should be bothered by this is attorneys. I could see myself and a whole lot of others on the receiving end of these kinds of smears. Collectively, we’re big donors to the Dems. May be time to mobilize.
Awesome thread! If Democrats would only demand that their party leaders support their party ideals, we would crush the Rethugs. The answer to weak kneed Democrats is to primary them. I’m down with a Bullock candidacy. I am sure that he is not, but it would be the best for the party. I know “the Delaware way”, but fuck it. Blue Delaware needs Blue Democratic representation.
Yes, awesome post. How far we have come since we were mocking people as “purists” for calling out turncoat Democrats and suggesting primaries. Kudos.
Has Coons said anything about revisiting this vote, or is he still ‘unavailable for comment’? Seriously.
Chris, you made a mistake. Are you listening? Are you reconsidering?
Please tell us that you have changed your mind on this. It’s that important.
The vote is done. A man, a well qualified lawyer lauded by EVERYONE in the legal field, has had his public career destroyed by the cowardice of certain Democrats, Coons chief among them. I don’t know if there is any coming back from this on Coons’ part. Yes, he may say he made a mistake, but we are left with his actions and betrayal. And with the notion that when the going gets tough, Coons will be the first to bail on us and on principle.
So I don’t think I care what Coons has to say, honestly. In fact, if he does apologize, I may become even more angry. Thus, I dare say Coons is done in my eyes.
This vote was that serious.
Well, the vote COULD be brought back. It’s why Reid changed his vote from yes to no, to be on the prevailing side of the vote. As such, he could move that the vote either be rescinded, or the nomination restored.
I agree with you, though. Coons has enjoyed a pass as being something of a tabula rasa. In the past two weeks, he has revealed himself to the world as a Fox News Democrat, at best. Meaning he might as well be a Republican.
Keep in mind that Fox News kept hammering the Mumia connection. Why? Because the head of this division is charged with enforcing the Voting Rights Act, which the Rethugs are seeking to emasculate.
This was a HUGE issue. And Coons comes across as being afraid of some thuggish FOP types.
Is it possible to have a worse congressional delegation in a solid blue state? I don’t think so.
Yep, certain votes are more serious than others. What amazes me is Coon’s has a law degree, right? At some point he studied the Constitution, right? The pandering of Coons’ vote is appalling – is he really saying that lawyers that represent “bad guys” are disqualified for any other service? Sure sounds like it.
The attorney Dan stated this above, but attorneys everywhere should be outraged by this vote, for it establishes the Coons Doctrine: attorneys shall be judged professionally by the actions of the clients they represent. The Coons Doctrine will have a chilling affect on the legal profession. No lawyer will now take a case where the client has committed a notorious crime, for the lawyer shall have his career tainted by it if he does.
Yes, this vote was that bad.
Here’s my theory:
The vote was 52 against. One was Harry Reid, so it was really 51 against; the other six turncoat Dems are in red states, so have understandable reasons for their “no” votes.
If Coons had voted in favor, it would have been a 50-50 tie, throwing the deciding vote to VP Joe Biden, the most cop-friendly Democrat in the country, who would have been forced to infuriate one of his core constituencies.
I think Coons might have done this to spare Biden that indignity, as a way of trying to weasel into Biden’s good graces; Bidens, remember, famously cut Coons in favor of Gordon at a public appearance shortly after Coons joined the Senate.
Just speculation, fwiw.
It appears to me that the entire Delaware delegation is bending toward the tea party/republican sector on many of their votes on the misguided premise that you defeat the opposition by becoming more like them. Show me any case in politics where that has worked? If we had a strong, disciplined Delaware Democratic Party, these weak kneed appeasers would be hearing from party leadership loud and clear and outing them. Thank goodness for the PDD.
Nah. If Biden really had a problem with the nomination, it would have been aired to the President before the nomination was made. And if the nomination was made over Biden’s objections, Biden would have been a good soldier. Despite is capital-preserving bluster about possibly running for President in 2016, he knows and we politicos know that Biden’s political career is at an end. No need to be worried about pissing off cops.
As a digression, these cops still angered over Mumia need to get a fucking life. Mumia was tried, convicted, sentenced to death (but was reduced on appeal to life in prison without parole). What more do they fucking want? They want to take the constitutional rights away from him and his attorneys too? They can go fuck off.
I’m not saying he has a problem with the nomination. I’m saying he would have had a problem as THE DECIDING VOTE on the nomination. See the difference?
Not really. I don’t see what difference it would make. Biden already gets tagged with anything Obama does anyway.
But hey, if you are suggesting the Vice President is too afraid of making the big decisions and being the DECIDING VOTE because it might make someone angry, then really, how can he ever hope to be President? I mean, really, if your theory is true, then Biden is a coward and can never even think of running for President.
You are absolutely correct, this is a story about a coward. However the only coward in this story is Abu-Jamal. Like a coward, he shot a cop in cold blood. Like a coward, he placed the gun inches from the officer’s face as he lay wounded and bleeding and put the final shot into his head. Like a coward, he turned and smirked at the victim’s wife when her husband’s blood-stained shirt was held up in the courtroom. Like a coward, he said he hoped the cop died, just for being white and being a cop. Then, like the coward he is, he spent decades whining about racism and trying to avoid paying the price for his crimes.
This isn’t about giving legal defense to a guilty client decades ago. It’s about going on the road as a personal advocate for this filthy coward and trying to turn him into a folk hero. It’s about race-baiting as a means to avid the truth. It’s also about a president who routinely selects the most radical, racially polarizing nominees that he can to further divide the nation.
I am no fan of Chris Coons, but even a bearded Marxist can see that this man does not have the integrity to serve in such a critical role in our Justice Department. He is an advocate of injustice and dedicated years of his life trying to fan the flames of racism to overturn a just verdict. Chris Coons is the one with courage in this case.
Chris Coons may have developed a conscience. It is amazing how our founding fathers figured out that up coming elections tend to give elected officials a conscience.
If he were going to support Obama’s nominee for the civil rights branch of the justice department, we might have just as well let Charles Manson out of prison and let him take the post. It is the same difference, this nominee strongly supported a man who brutally murdered a police officer. At what point is defending a man like that called Civil.
Okay. If we’ve decided that laws are now secondary to people and their passions, I agree with you 100%. The law has spoken on all of this and under our system, the law depends on having a defense as well as a prosecution.
P.S. The cowards are the 44 democrat senators who supported the nominee
(And all the people at the delaware liberal who disagree with Chris Coons vote on this)
That dills is in accord with Coons speaks volumes.
@Independent Voter: Learn what you’re talking about before you open your mouth — oh, wait, you mouth-breathers always have open mouths.
The only injustice in this case was the unfair trial. I still think Abu-Jamal was guilty, but it’s abundantly clear that he did not receive a fair trial.
Neither you, I nor anyone else who is not Mumia knows the truth. To pretend you do only shows YOUR cowardice.
Chris Coons is a coward because he doesn’t have the stones to tell people like you, or any of the Mumia-haters, to fuck off.
Geezer – It’s always telling when even a geezer has to resort to third-grade name calling to make a point. I do know exactly what I am talking about, and certainly don’t need you to tell me when I can or can’t open my mouth. The cowardly Muslim terrorist murderer was guilty and deserved to pay. Let it rest. And you are dead wrong, my friend… the eyewitnesses and the people he bragged to also know exactly what happened. And so so you if you admitted he was guilty as charged.
And there is no entitlement law, fortunately for America, that says Congress must approve every radical, race-baiting nominee that a sitting president nominates.
These posts do not pass the smell test of an independent voter.
Unlike D or R voters, I don’t have a party line that I have to toe, Tom. Living in DE I have voted for more Ds than Rs but support those candidates who I can respect. I always have more respect for candidates who will vote their conscience against their own party on occasion, as was done in this case. I happen to firmly believe that Abu-Jamal, as he now calls himself, was guilty. I followed his trial at the time and since. I also feel strongly that this nominee would be bad for America, and that it is yet one more example of the president intentionally choosing the most divisive, radical nominee he could find.
If anybody wants a gauge as to how “independent” our so-called Independent voter is just google the phrase “racially polarizing nominees that he can to further divide the nation” and you will see that a nearly identical wording is routinely used by Sean Hannity.
I think he was guilty but did not receive a fair trail. In the rush to punish a killer of one of their own, they left many questions. It was a case of screwing up a slam dunk case.
It is a lawyer’s duty to provide a defense for a client even if he thinks the client is guilty. It’s the basis of our legal system that’s why Coon’s vote is so shameful because he is a lawyer.
president intentionally choosing the most divisive, radical nominee he could find.
I can think of many others more polarizing choices
Can you post proof that backs your statement
The only accolades that Coons is receiving are from folks who would never vote for him. Way to shoot yourself again in the foot Chris.
It is baffling and I still haven’t heard an explanation that makes sense. Coons’ statement can be dismissed out of hand. The idea that he is afraid of a primary makes no sense, and while this makes teabags happy, it LOWERS his overall vote count because teabags aren’t going to vote for him anyway.
If he had a Republican nipping at his heals, I could kinda, sorta see it – but he has no GOP opponent and is sitting on a $2.9 million campaign war chest.
I’d love someone to apply some sodium penathol and just ask, “What in the world were you thinking?”
This whole scene reminds me of Clinton’s nomination of Lani Guinier, the distinguished legal scholar and civil rights advocate. He quickly pulled it back when the accusation of “radical” was posited and threw her under the bus. I don’t see Obama doing that, at least not yet.
Jason, my friend, you are so far-left radical that you can’t recognize middle ground when you see it. I do not watch Sean Hannity, but if he made that statement, I would agree with it. Being Independent doesn’t mean mindlessly following the radical left or radical right of the major parties, like many posters in this blog feel compelled to do.
This case is not about providing legal representation to a defendant. It is about demonizing the murdered victim and creating a publicity road show to turn him into a rockstar for the America-hating radical left. That is why he is politically and racially devisive, just as Eric Holder was one of the most polarizing AG selections that the president could have made. If you disagree that is fine, but shows just how far left of center you are.
And yes, I have voted for Chris Coons, as well as many times for Tom Carper. But no, I don’t support Joe Biden. I’m an independent, not a politicized robot who always has to toe a party story line.
Try thinking for yourselves sometimes, it’s refreshing.
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What he said.
I ask again show me proof.
“It is about demonizing the murdered victim and creating a publicity road show to turn him into a rockstar for the America-hating radical left. ”
I am not aware of any examples of anybody “demonizing” Officer Faulkner. Which FOX News host do you get that from?
And what makes you think the nominee was responsible for what you call a “publicity road show?” That existed long before Adegbile’s involvement.
Try thinking for yourselves sometimes, it’s refreshing.
Not like you’d know, really. It’s amusing when so-called independents show up here and try to pawn off their Fox News talking points as *independent thinking*. They never catch on to the fact that the only people even available to that foolishness are only they Fox News cohorts. Sheesh.
Why do people feel the need to blame Fox News in order to bolster their argument. It’s sort of a default setting for some people it seems.
Who even gets their news and opinions from the television anymore anyway?
Also with ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS taking up the majority of the TV news business, why do people single out Fox?
Could it be that in a free country there is one news outlet with an opposing viewpoint? We can’t have that, can we.
@fbh “…why do people single out Fox?”
Because only Fox is engaged in a serious propaganda campaign without regard to truth and accuracy. It’s a fair bet that if you can only find it on Fox News, then it’s a blatant lie (or at least an intentional distortion).
You are aware that people who watch Fox News do worse on news quizzes than people who watch no news whatsoever.
And if you are here typing out what Fox has told you and trying to pawn it off as “independent thinking”, then you’ll be reminded that the only place where you can get away with that without challenge is over on delawarepolitics.
If you look at Coon’s comments, he says the candidate was absolutely qualified. He admitted that he did not want to piss off the police. That discredits all of the he’s too radical BS.
Facts are such a distraction to true believers.
This is what is wrong with American politics today… anyone who disagrees on even one small issue triggers third-grade name calling rather than a reasoned debate of the issue. Waaahh!! Faux news! Waaaah! Sean Hannity talking points!!!! Waaaah! teabaggers!!!! Waaahh!!! Neocon propoganda!
Of course, only the far left is always unbiased. Of course, only MSNBC is objective. Of course, anyone who votes for more Ds than Rs and objects to both parties’ stands on some issues, is not welcome in teh new far-left tent owned by the new Democratic party.
Small wonder the independents are the fastest growing group of voters in America. You guys are no better than Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity, neither of whom I am a fan of. Stick to your Al Shaprton brand of politics. Hope it serves your party well.
You’ve come to the wrong blog if you want to lay down Hannity talking points and not be called out on it.
“the eyewitnesses and the people he bragged to also know exactly what happened. And so so you if you admitted he was guilty as charged. ”
Stupid fuck. I believe he was guilty; I don’t KNOW it, and neither do you. When you don’t even know the difference between seeing something yourself and believing that people are telling the truth when they tell you what they saw, you’re doomed to be a stupid fuck for the rest of eternity.
I don’t believe any of those “eyewitnesses” was there; indeed, they couldn’t all have been or their accounts wouldn’t differ so radically.
It wasn’t third-grade name-calling. It was adult name-calling. You’re a piece of shit, pal, and it has nothing to do with your political label. You’re just an arrogant know-it-all who knows less than he thinks. You ought to shut up to keep from embarrassing yourself further.
@ Geezer agreed He’s pissed off because he has no proof to back up his allegations, so he changes the subject and resorts to name calling.
What’s wrong with American politics is that people point out when you are being lied to — not that you won’t stop defending the liars. Right.
Chris Coons makes a chickenshit vote, then Independent Voter comes on here lying through his teeth, pretending to be independent — no way:
Independent Voter: “I followed his trial at the time and since. I also feel strongly that this nominee would be bad for America, and that it is yet one more example of the president intentionally choosing the most divisive, radical nominee he could find.”
So your basis for your lie about Mr Adegbile is what, Independent Voter? “Divisive, radical nominee” is in the eye of the beholder, you, tarnished by right wing racist rhetoric which you claim to dismiss. I don’t believe you!
Regarding Coons and his disgusting vote, well he needs to be defeated.
Seeing an opening, will Mike Castle step up to run against Coons? Castle would win that race, yes?
I would like to see Ted Kaufman step up to primary Chris Coons.
Thank you for this giggle:
Seeing an opening, will Mike Castle step up to run against Coons?
Coons hasn’t opened much. He is sitting on $2.9 million. Castle would have to start from a standing stop, and he would have to have a fire in his belly.
you really think a) a baptist pastor with a close working relationship with tom gordon or b) a moderate republican are going to make you happier in the senate than chris coons? also, this – “the only thing to do here is to direct the anger of the black community at Chris Coons” – is horrible reasoning. i didn’t think the fox news/RW radio caricature of the “conniving white democrat” actually existed in any form, but now i have to question whether there’s a few stragglers out there.
i don’t like this vote any more than you do, but be realistic. there’s not a single liberal in the entire state, who has even a remote chance of getting even 25% of a primary vote, who is going to primary coons. not beau, who would have voted the same way. not kaufman, who by all accounts has no interest in running. not anyone who wants a political future within the party. chances are, it’s going to be a complete outsider with some money who doesn’t mind throwing $10,000 to file straight into the pockets of the Party, which will in turn use it to help Coons win another six years in the Senate. or it’s going to be alex pires.
I agree. That’s why (as I said in a different thread) some people consciously opt out of this corrupt bullshit system and don’t register or vote.
Geezer,
Thank you for showing me just how far the liberal faction has devolved since I considered myself one of them.
I do assume the murderer “knew” what happened when he bragged about it on multiple occasions. I concede however that I included you in that category, since you only “believe” that he pulled the trigger, yet want to waste taxpayer money to set him free to be the rock star you and the new liberal left has made him out to be.
He is getting at least part of what he deserves each and every day that he is locked up like the animal he is. Knowing that at least he will never see the light of day shows that for now, there is still something right in America.
How was this winter camping out with OWS in Wilmington, by the way? Or did global warming make it too uncomfortably for you these last few months? Glad to see someone finally cleaned up all your feces from your campground. Maybe they can do that with your mouth.
Have a nice life, and thanks for reminding a moderate independent why never to vote for a candidate that you people support.
Yo IV, you sir are no moderate independent. You are in total teabagger rant!
One more “intelligent” far leftist who can offer nothing other than more third-grade name calling. Ironic that the most radical left use hate language such as a derogatory term for gays to spew on the moderates. Of course you would be screaming “hate crime” if anyone used that term against one of you.
You accuse me of being on a rant after geezer’s verbal vomit?
@IV “You accuse me of being on a rant after geezer’s verbal vomit?”
Just go back and read what you wrote.
Whoever hates Mumia Abu-Jamal the most is the best, most patriotic American, or something.
That’s all I’m getting from the unhinged rantings of Mr. Hannity’s parrot.
Calling out baggers is fun and all… where are we on finding someone to support over Coons? Never too early to start 🙂
Perhaps this is Sen Townsend’s big moment.
That would be ironic if Chris Coons was taken out by an ideological primary, seeing how that’s how he was elected in the first place.
The similarities between the extreme right, and the extreme left are very evident at times.
The similarities are superficial, but making that lazy comparison has enriched a host of DC pundits, so who am I to complain?
“I do assume the murderer “knew” what happened when he bragged about it on multiple occasions.”
No he didn’t. A jailhouse snitch claims he bragged about it. There is no independent verification.
“you only “believe” that he pulled the trigger, yet want to waste taxpayer money to set him free to be the rock star you and the new liberal left has made him out to be.”
If you weren’t a moron, you’d realize that you don’t know what the outcome of another trial would be.
“He is getting at least part of what he deserves each and every day that he is locked up like the animal he is.”
There’s more of that “intelligent discussion” you claim to be involved in. Fuckstick.
” Knowing that at least he will never see the light of day shows that for now, there is still something right in America.”
No, it just shows that you’re a pig-ignorant asshole who thinks he knows more than he does and has a mean streak to boot.
“How was this winter camping out with OWS in Wilmington, by the way? Or did global warming make it too uncomfortably for you these last few months? Glad to see someone finally cleaned up all your feces from your campground. Maybe they can do that with your mouth.’
Quite the rational discussion there. You, sir, are an ignorant asshole, and I’m sure you made as stupid a liberal as you now make an “independent.”
“thanks for reminding a moderate independent why never to vote for a candidate that you people support.”
An asswipe who calls Mumia an “animal” is no moderate. Remember, the first victim of a conservative’s lies is always the conservative himself.
also, this – “the only thing to do here is to direct the anger of the black community at Chris Coons” – is horrible reasoning.
Really? In what way is it horrible reasoning? You don’t think the black community’s anger should be directed Coons’ way?
“i didn’t think the fox news/RW radio caricature of the “conniving white democrat” actually existed in any form, but now i have to question whether there’s a few stragglers out there.”
And I have to question whether you’re a moron. The black community should know that Chris Coons did this. Given that the black community has less exposure to the news media than the mainstream community does, it’s a call to make sure people there know about this.
Take your political correctness and shove it up your ass — if there’s room for it there next to your head.
I think Townsend has to worry about Tackett and maybe move into his own apartment before he starts trying to primary Chris Coons.
Townsend is struggling to get out from under 20 years of bad policies and corpoeratist control of Delaware….. just like many other young adults.
People dont live with their parents because it’s fun. They do it because senators like Coons and Carper have been allowing things like going to college require a 30+ year financial obligation, even for someone from a comfortable upbringing.
Sure beats a trustafarian who votes with the GOP minority.
By, the way… im really just practicing my rhetoric just in case 🙂 … although I truely would like to see a real democrat representing Delaware. realtive to how thoroughly Democratic this state votes, it has to be one of the most poorly repsresented in congress.
“also, this – “the only thing to do here is to direct the anger of the black community at Chris Coons” – is horrible reasoning.
Really? In what way is it horrible reasoning? You don’t think the black community’s anger should be directed Coons’ way?
“i didn’t think the fox news/RW radio caricature of the “conniving white democrat” actually existed in any form, but now i have to question whether there’s a few stragglers out there.”
And I have to question whether you’re a moron. The black community should know that Chris Coons did this. Given that the black community has less exposure to the news media than the mainstream community does, it’s a call to make sure people there know about this.
Take your political correctness and shove it up your ass — if there’s room for it there next to your head.”
it’s horrible reasoning because it makes the assumption that this is the only issue (or shit, even a MAJOR issue) black people care about when they enter the voting booth is mumia. it’s the same logical fallacy that republicans make when they call obama a “food stamp president”. the exact same one.
again, i’m pissed off at the vote, but who the hell are you going to get to replace him that would have voted any differently? i’ll wait for that answer. but i digress, because once someone uses “political correctness” as an insult, they’ve completely jumped the shark.
Yo, anon, it’s not about Mumia.
The reason the Rethugs and Fox Noise went all ‘Mumia’ on the nomination is b/c Adegbile is arguably the best attorney in the country when it comes to defending the Federal Voting Rights Act.
Rethugs all over the country are trying to disenfranchise any and all voters who won’t vote for them. Legislation popping up in both red and swing states, many of it enacted into law.
Which is why Roger Ailes and the Rethugs exhumed Mumia Abu Jamal–as a straw man to scare the gutless into voting against someone who protects the rights of disenfranchised voters, many of whom are black. Most blatant of the gutless: Chris Coons.
i understand that, but Geezer wasn’t talking about “directing the anger of the black community” at protecting voting rights, which is an extremely worthy cause of everyone’s rage; he was talking about this vote in the context of voting against someone who fought for mumia. i’m not saying he meant any harm by making the suggestion that they should be pissed, i just think we should be wary of telling black people what should piss them off.
“Whoever hates Mumia Abu-Jamal the most is the best, most patriotic American, or something.”
Actually you are almost there, Jason. Actually he who hates a coward who walks up and shoots a law enforcement officer in the back in cold blood, pumps several other bullets into him, then stands over him with his gun inches from his face and pulls the trigger one more time… then brags about it and sneers at the officer’s wife in the courtroom…. all this after declaring that it is time to start killing cops… and then whining about “racism” because he was tried and convicted…
Yes, he who hates that scum the most IS in fact more of a patriot than the geezers who idolize him for what he did. You’re starting to get it.
“Coons and Carper have been allowing things like going to college require a 30+ year financial obligation, even for someone from a comfortable upbringing. ”
Not just allowing it. Carper is proud of Sallie Mae’s strong workforce presence in Wilmington.
“a coward who walks up and shoots a law enforcement officer in the back in cold blood, pumps several other bullets into him, then stands over him with his gun inches from his face and pulls the trigger one more time… then brags about it and sneers at the officer’s wife in the courtroom…. all this after declaring that it is time to start killing cops… and then whining about “racism” because he was tried and convicted…”
Where in the world did you get that flight of fancy? This is the bullshit published at law-enforcement sites, not the writing of someone who followed the original trial. “Moderate” my ass. That’s an emotional rant, unworthy of the dignity of a rational response.
“Yes, he who hates that scum the most IS in fact more of a patriot than the geezers who idolize him for what he did. You’re starting to get it.”
I don’t idolize him, moron. I pointed out that, while almost certainly guilty, he also got an unfair trial. And in no rational world does your desire to fellate the police department have anything to do with “patriotism.” Again, your underlying assumptions provide ample evidence that you are not now and have never been either a liberal or a moderate.
IV How about the cowards who would not go to Viet Nam but were responsible for tens of thousands of deaths based on a lie. They are still proud and unrepentant of their actions. If you are the patriot you claim to be, let’s see you attack the chicken hawks.
Admit it IV, you are full of right wing ideology and dumb enough to be a Don Ayotte impersonator. Read your pocket Constitution, Abegbile was just insuring that Mumia’s rights were upheld. As a champion of the Constitution, Abegbile is now being punished. This should enrage all Americans.
I am gratified to have revealed the truth. You have a fine understanding of the Ingsoc definition of patriotism. No doubt, you’ll go far in life with that clarity of vision.