Huckabee, Brownback and Tancredo Don’t Believe in Evolution
I have to admit that I am surprised by Huckabee’s stance on this. He seems to me to be one of the more palatable of the Republican candidates. I don’t think we can take 4 more years of scientific denial.
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I confess, I did not watch the debate (BAD REPUBLICAN I AM). Did they all espouse creationism or intelligent design?
I agree that it is ridiculous to deny evolution, but it is equally as ridiculous to assume the evolution came about by chance. Intelligent design gets a bad rap because liberals are so afraid of religion, since most religions are not compatible with liberal ideals. However, intelligent design is careful not to say whose God, indeed if anyones GOD, is responsible for creation, only that evolution can’t explain everything and it is folly to believe everything is one giant cosmic accident.
If the candidates espoused pure creationism then they have lost me. But if they meant they favor the ID route, then they are not way out in left (or should I say RIGHT) field.
God created evolution.
Chris says, “Intelligent design gets a bad rap because liberals are so afraid of religion, since most religions are not compatible with liberal ideals.”
No, Chris. The tenets of most religions are the basis for most liberal ideals. And its not the religions we are concerned with, but the people practising religions who have established a 4,000 year track record of doing rather nasty things to those who do not donate enough money to the belief du jour.
How many times has Delay been taped saying “Praise Jesus” while raping American Indians enough to make Wounded Knee look like a day in the park? It ain’t Jesus; its the guys who say they talk to Jesus who are the problem.
Here is a good video about evolution and the power of natural selection. The problem with ID is that it seems to espouse that evolution is random. It is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2SVMKZhV2g
Worth thinking about.
Instead of the evolution question we should ask “Did dinosaurs ride on Noahs ark?”
I’m not kidding either, that would be such a better gauge of what these morons think.
“Here is a good video about evolution and the power of natural selection. The problem with ID is that it seems to espouse that evolution is random. It is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2SVMKZhV2g”
Liberalgeek,
You have to give me a chance to make my own points. You can’t go making my points for me.
So the video creater rand quadrillions of radomized tests and happen to pick the two that resolved into a South Park character and a sentence saying “If you could read this then ID is wrong.”?
Unlikely. The key is the sentence below saying “The goal is….”. You videomaker, in his seething attempt to prove ID wrong was in fact practicing ID. If indeed he ran this an an experiment (rather than just having a little fun with Macormedia Flash) we would have had to adjust parameters to “guide” those random calcs into his desired results. That is ID. Natural selection with a guiding force.
I am sorry. I should be grateful. Thanks for helping me make my point.
“Instead of the evolution question we should ask “Did dinosaurs ride on Noahs ark?”
I’m not kidding either, that would be such a better gauge of what these morons think.”
I assume you are referring to the Creationists and not the ID people. ID’ers (at least this one) have no problems with dinosaurs, which would have been long extinct by Noah’s time. I have always taken the notion that the “6 days” in the bible creation account, was symbolic for the evolutionary period it took to achieve it. I guess this identifies me clearly as NOT being a fundamentalist. But I do believe that, particularly in the first couple of chapters of Genesis, so allegories were used to account for the mind blowing process of creation. It is something only God can truly comprehend. And those of us that think we have it all figured out are just fooling ourselves (which probably includes me right along with you).
actually, natural selection is a move toward better survivability. Try to think of the south park character as the development of an opposable thumb. As the generations have a little bit of random mutations (a little growth on the side of the hand, for example) this mutation is rewarded with being dispersed into the gene pool. In the end a fully formed thumb might result, but it isn’t random. It is by natural selection.
But the video still demonstrates my point. I understand your but it still leaves certain questions to answer.
For instance…for generations to mutate, there needed to be a first generation (Amoeba or whatever) but where did the FIRST generation come from?
I see your point with that and I do not have an answer. But that was not the actual question that they were asked and it is not what ID people talk about.
Perhaps it was Adam the Amoeba and Eve was formed from one of his (its?) flagella…
“Perhaps it was Adam the Amoeba and Eve was formed from one of his (its?) flagella…”
There you go. You have solved the mystery.
🙂
Maybe we should coin the term “DesiCreatioloutionism”.
so chris, do you get to pick and choose which parts of the bible are literal and which aren’t like all the other hypocrites out there?
which story about Easter is the right one by the way, it’s hard to keep em all straight these days.
again, glad to see you are sticking around
“so chris, do you get to pick and choose which parts of the bible are literal and which aren’t like all the other hypocrites out there?”
Not what I said. In fact, many of the JC religions don’t take on a purely literal interpretation.
I just remember what my religion professor in college said (and this is about the only thing I remember). On the first day he stood up and declared “The first 12 chapters of Genesis are a myth!”. Three students promptly stood up and left. He them proceeded to explain that myth did not equal false, and taught us about the allegorical theories regarding THOSE 12 chapters. Not a huge stretch when you consider Jesus invoked the same method in using parables.
So I stand by my original statement that the Bible and evolution (via ID) are not incompatible. And I am not picking and choosing what parts of the bible to believe.
As for the Easter stories? Well, what can I say. Each of the Gospels contain all or part of the story. Each gospel was written by a different man. No too people generally tell the same story…or see if the same way. Particular since most of the Gospel writers were not even there when it happened. So naturally, there will be differences. That is without including the fact that the gospels have been “translated” numerous times over the years. It is amazing that they are as close as they are.
You guys are pissing off The Flying Spaghetti Monster.