Now can someone tell me
Well, since the post below achieved it’s mission which was no one has a fucking clue as to why amnesty is such a bad thing or how illegals are really impacting our country in a negative fashion. I will ask the next question I have:
1. So all you brain trusts if amnesty wont work, then how do we get rid of 12 million illegals?
2. What is the solution to the alternatives being given if we have so many self proclaimed experts here today?
Tags: Immigration, The Economy
if amnesty wont work, then how do we get rid of 12 million illegals?
Why the rush to get rid of them? When they can’t find work anymore they will go home to their families. If they want to come back they can go to the US embassy and get in line.
At 1000 dollars per alien, probably a low ball figure, it would cost just a cheap 12 billion to ship them all back. Compare this cost to the 3 billion cost it would take to eliminate world hunger for just one year.
Of course, it could be handled with 16 cents of ink, at the bottom of a bill making them legal, under certain conditions.
anon,
brilliant, you should run for office. You know how to tackle the tough problems.
At 1000 dollars per alien,
That’s airfare and four nights at an “all inclusive” on the Mayan Riveria.
kavips,
can I borrow a cheap million from you…
shockingly this post has far less comment so far…
it seems there are no easy answers I guess.
Reagan-era amnesty did not work because it was not accompanied by increased enforcement of immigration law. This one won’t work for the same reason — it is a wink and a nod towards pretty much the status quo, with the real possibility of increasing the problem since there won’t be much effort to enforce the (leaving) rules of a guest worker program either.
So you won’t get rid of the 12 million until you remove their reason for being here in the first place — the jobs they came for. And there does not seem much chance of that.
I’m not sure about a long term solution, other than amnesty for those who are here now accompanied by Zero Tolerance on the illegal front. Meaning that employers get the brunt of ICE scrutiny and they go to the places that ICE already knows employs illegals.
You not agreeing with the answers provided doesn’t mean they haven’t been answered. It just means that the famous liberal respect for the ideas of others is on display.
uh ricky,
what answers were provided?
(ps on a serious note, thanks for commenting we appreciate it)
Tell Bush Mexico has weapons of mass destruction, he’ll invade without checking any facts, and all the citizens of Mexico can get jobs with Halliburton.
A half-dozen high-profile prosecutions of illegal employers, with jail time and business closure, ought to do the trick.
Now all we need is a forthright and honest enforcement effort from the Department of Jus– oh crap, never mind.
You are all convinced diplomacy is always the answer…and you might actually be correct in this case.
Mexico draws a significant amount of their money off of the United States. Perhaps the answer in this case lies in structuring our trade agreements in such a way that we could help keep their economy going with their citizens able to work those jobs IN Mexico.
I am not talking about taking American jobs and moving them down there (which, with most of the agricultural jobs couldn’t happen anyway). But quite frankly, I am not thrilled with us sending so much money to China. Yes, it is a truly wonderful culture but not exactly the most friendly government currently. Much of the money being poured into China is just building their armies. Plus, as you environmentalists know (and prefer not to mention) China is among the largest producers of pollution in the world.
What is scary as I write this is that my solution has shades of NAFTA (which I think I was against….but can’t remember now. Its hell to get old).
In theory the plan would work. In reality it won’t. For as much corruption as you claim exists in the US government, Mexico does theirs on a grand, and open scale.
So get your diplomats down to Mexico. If they can pull this one off, and get it to work, maybe then I could support them talking to “nutjob” in Iran.
Maybe…
See, he moves to Delaware and he is already tending blue…
Welcome to the home of tax free shopping, Chris.
United States of Mexico?
I kid…BUT…a long, long time ago Jason and I shared comments about what may become the inevitable merging of economies/currencies in North America, much like Europe. Now that the dollar is being CRUSHED CRUSHED CRUSHED world wide and we are on the verge of officially adding an enormous population that on average will be of low-wage earners to the economy, I don’t know where the answer lies. I do not know. That is why I think, down the road, the path of the Euro may become our own path to a unified North American currency/economy. This is not my solution, but what I think will happen, eventually.
DV – the above is why I am silent. I have no solution to suggest. I think about it, but being one who refuses to splinter families (children born in US to illegal immigrants and many countries will not recognize those children as their citizens), I just can’t figure a workable solution. This is an incredibly crappy issue with zero one-size-fits-all solutions. Our country committed the serious fumble here, but we are utterly clueless on how to recover. Unfortunately, too many people are trying to make a one-size-fits-all solution work, yet it never will at this point.