Is this liberal hyperbole?
I’m really interested in my wingnut’s take on this.
Every now and then, it is worth noting that substantial portions of the right-wing political movement in the United States — the Pajamas Media/right-wing-blogosphere/Fox News/Michelle Malkin/Rush-Limbaugh-listener strain — actually believe that Islamists are going to take over the U.S. and impose sharia law on all of us. And then we will have to be Muslims and “our women” will be forced into burkas and there will be no more music or gay bars or churches or blogs. This is an actual fear that they have — not a theoretical fear but one that is pressing, urgent, at the forefront of their worldview.
Seriously. Is Glenn Greenwold just pullling some chains or do wingers honestly think that the Islamist are going to impose sharia here in New Castle County Delaware?
Well since I considered wingnut around here (mainstream in the real world) I’ll take this.
I don’t believe that it will ever get to that point here…at least not in our lifetime. Even you nutjob liberals who seem to root for radical islamics (and cheer everytime they win one against the evil US), will draw the line if it ever came to that. I have enough belief in America to know that we would not roll over and allow that to happen.
On the other hand, Islam is already taking over some Western nations. One of the reasons, in my opinion, that France went a little more Conservative in the last election is because of the skyrocketing Islam population. While some would say that it is xenophobic to care, France went through a period of months where there were dozens of cars being torched DAILY, most by members of certain Islamic factions. That is where the real danger lies. I think it is possible that in our lifetime France will be come an Islamic country. It sounds far fetched now, but a few years ago it was total absurd, now just far fetched. By 2012 we will be talking about it being “possible to probable”.
Will America follow suit? No. Not as a whole. But we could certainly see certain areas and communities where Islamic law does become the rule. Is that bad? Not for me to say. We already have sections of cities that follow their own ethnic rules. Part of the great melting pot. Time will tell.
What bothers me though is stories like those out of California two years back, where the people that scream the most about “separation of church and state” and getting all religion out of public schools, were also the people endorsing the teaching of Islam in public schools to “futher understanding”. Inconsistency.
Even you nutjob liberals who seem to root for radical islamics
You rightwingers are the ones who keep sending them weapons and funding them with drug money… who’s the nutjob?
Correction: Malkin and Limbaugh do not believe sharia will occur here nor that Islamists will take over. But as Karl Rove said on FNS this a.m., the left does want to accommodate them to a very large degree.
“But as Karl Rove said on FNS this a.m., the left does want to accommodate them to a very large degree.”
This is sorta rich coming from a guy who makes his living lying about people who don’t agree with him.
Who is it on the left who want to accommodate radical Muslims “to a very large degree”?
“Who is it on the left who want to accommodate radical Muslims “to a very large degree”?”
I am seeing this vision of Nancy Pellossi in a muslim head covering bowing and scraping to Palestinian radicals. There would be one. Not a big enough liberal for you?
I don’t know what your vision has to do with my question. Speaker Pelosi on a bipartisan (just for Chris, that means that both Democrats and repubs were present) trip to Syria to try to persuade the Syrians to let go their alliance with Iran. And to also try to persuade them to intervene with Hezbollah to turn loose the Israeli soldiers they had.
This counts as accommodating radical Muslims? If so, there are more problems with the “modern conservative movement” than I thought.
Nancy Pellossi in a muslim head covering bowing and scraping to Palestinian radicals.
You obviously don’t remember Dick Cheney running around the same Arab capitals (and more) trying to drum up support for the invasion and failing miserably.
… and exactly what “large accomodation” do you think Pelosi offered? Or are you counting just showing up as “accomodation”?
Nancy Pellossi in a muslim head covering bowing and scraping to Palestinian radicals.
You obviously don’t remember Dick Cheney running around the same Arab capitals (and more) trying to drum up support for the invasion and failing miserably.
Or Rummy meeting with Saddam.
Who is it on the left who want to accommodate radical Muslims “to a very large degree”?
MoveOn.org shortly after 9/11.
Come on, man, you really think that wingnut urban legends will fly here?
Last I checked, it is the right of every American to petition the government on issues of justice. Do remember that the only people obligated to support and cheer-lead every bit of mismanaged belligerence BushCo has perpetrated are wingnuts. The rest of us are still insisting on our rights to have a say in government.
Good grief.
Care to provide a link Hube?
Come on, man, you really think that wingnut urban legends will fly here?
Oooooh! Wow — on a site that disseminates moonbat urban legends. Gee, ‘ya got me. The rest of your post neatly evades the issue and is usual moonbat ranting
Jase: see here.
Following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, MoveOn launched an online campaign calling for “justice, not escalating violence.” It collected 30,000 signers for a statement that declared: “To combat terrorism, we must act in accordance with a high standard that does not disregard the lives of people in other countries. If we retaliate by bombing Kabul and kill people oppressed by the Taliban dictatorship who have no part in deciding whether terrorists are harbored, we become like the terrorists we oppose. We perpetuate the cycle of retribution and recruit more terrorists by creating martyrs.”
And you still haven’t explained how petitioning one’s government is appeasement.
The president of Afghanistan was here recently visiting BushCo and he asked for specifically this thing — much more care on behalf of our guys in targeting the real bad guys. This makes him an appeaser too? BTW — you have heard that suicide bombings (as a symptom of successful increased recruitment of terrorists) are on the increase in Afghanistan?
But I suppose the real take away here is the lesson that one of the core values of the modern conservative movement is the targeting of Muslims, any Muslims, no matter their innocence or guilt, is AOK.
All that moveon.org stuff makes sense and we followed that course in Afghanistan.
Are you saying we should bomb innocent people in order to (once in a while) also bomb a terrorist?
I don’t get your point.
OMG. Look, move the goal posts all you wish, but I did precisely what you asked. I never claimed you cannot petition the gov. nor did I say that such petitioning was “appeasement.” What I did say was that the Left indeed wants to accommodate Islamists to a large degree. They want to treat it as a law enforcement issue rather than a war. Said accommodation is plainly seen in MoveOn’s statement above. The US mainland is attacked, 3000 killed, but we shouldn’t retaliate because innocents might get killed? As IF the US military doesn’t always try to avoid civilian casualties in the first place.
Jase: You and maas contradict one another in your last two posts. Better get it straight.
But I suppose the real take away here is the lesson that one of the core values of the modern conservative movement is the targeting of Muslims, any Muslims, no matter their innocence or guilt, is AOK.
It was only a matter of time before this bullshit appeared. Take this and stick it up your ample ass, asshole.
huh?
Hube: Your MoveOn.org cite doesn’t support your contention that they wanted to “accommodate radical Muslims “to a very large degree””
Do you have another example?
Hube, you are the only one moving goal posts — you still haven’t answered why it is the MoveOn petition is appeasement.
What you have done is made up the crap about the petition being against retaliation — the bit you cited certainly does not support that and nor does it say anything about law enforcement. Plainly, the MoveOn text you cited is exactly what President Kharzai has been asking recently.
It was only a matter of time before this bullshit appeared. Take this and stick it up your ample ass, asshole.
There we go — one of the go-to responses of the modern, Christian movement conservative to questions they can’t answer.
“It was only a matter of time before this bullshit appeared. Take this and stick it up your ample ass, asshole.
There we go — one of the go-to responses of the modern, Christian movement conservative to questions they can’t answer.”
Someone tell Mike the Christian conservatives are into anal; call Christine, and meet with Levin to get a case of K-Y from Happy Harry’s (no wonder the guy was happy).
Take from the European example. They are even more liberal than most US politicians and they’ve been appeasing left right and sideways. In Germany, polygamy is now legal but only if you’re a Muslim male. Canada is setting up separate legal systems for Muslims based on Sharia law for matters like divorce and such. The media has been complicit by failing to identify people when it makes a material difference to the story. The Muslim terrorists who drove their SUV into the airport in Scotland were described as “South Asian”. No mention of anything else.
In Germany, polygamy is now legal but only if you’re a Muslim male.
This sounds like pure Rush Limpbag BS. Care to provide a link?