Action’s speak louder than words
They have to over at First state politics too be totally honest with ya. When they aren’t turning off the comments On a ridiculous 9/11 commemorative post by their own version of a blathering idiot
They are accusing criminal behavior and allowing no one to comment or defend themselves or point out the obvious staginess of the photo. The post just sits out there for all to see like a noose on a tree.
It is a simple action that speaks volumes about Dave Burrus and the De. GOP doesn’t it. I mean here was a guy that was a Sussex County Republican Chairman Can you imagine? Good lord, what a sad state of affairs for those shaping party thoughts and ideas in De. What a disgusting action that typifies the First States Republican leadership and the countries GOP leadership as well.
It seems to be a pattern that fits doesn’t it? If we don’t like what you will say, we don’t listen. We stage events where only believers can attend, only people with tickets can get in, where we can block you with our rally squads, throw you out if you don’t dress the way we want.
At a time when branches of our own national Government are giving fake press conferences Dave’s small action is a unflattering wart on the nose of the GOP. Staged press events are episodes that have happened several times in the past mind you.
Do we really need to prop up local “leaders” (term used loosely) That see fit to make accusations then not allow for comments? Is the De GOP really proud to have had him lead them? Is this the action of a free speech supporter? Of a person that seeks outside opinion?
It’s sad, pathetic and all too telling of you and your party. Dave burris your actions speak louder than your words. You have a blog my friend and you can do whatever you want with it. But, these small choices you make reflect a much greater belief you have. This belief will no doubt be reflected in the Party you wield influence in, it already does.
FEEL FREE TO COMMENT DAVE…..you always can over here.
Tags: Blogosphere, Delaware, Donviti, Politics
The post just sits out there for all to see like a noose on a tree.
donviti wins the “best turn of phrase” award for today.
Dave who?
It is very odd that comments aren’t open on that post. It doesn’t make sense. Perhaps it’s a glitch. Otherwise I can’t figure out why he would do it.
that’s no glitch dana or a mistake…he knows what he is doing.
jason commented on them being off from the git go. he could have turned them back on. He has word press and it is simple to do.
This isn’t the first time a Delaware Republican has kicked off their campaign by making unsupported accusations about Democratic sign thuggery. It is now part of the GOP campaign playbook.
No, more likely it’s that tearing down signs is step 2 of the DelDem campaign strategy; step 1 is to attempt to tarnish the opponent’s image by tying them to George W. Bush and/or Mike Castle. Nowhere will you find the advancement of new ideas, unless you count new ideas for spending taxpayer money.
To whom it may concern, Dave is busy right now trying to spin JC comments this morning in the News Journal. You know, where she stated she voted for Sen. Vaughn ( the mean nasty Sen. that hides bill in his desk and hates open govt.) I bet Dave shit his pants when he read that. Why would Dave champion someone like JC, and then she supports someone in the past that she says “is ” what is wrong in Dover?
Please excuse Dave while he tries to put a spin on this slight slip of the tounge
I would imagine that the facial expressions of the GOP handlers when Christian said she liked Vaughn were about the same as the expressions on the faces of Biden’s campaign team at the last faux pas.
“That’s not the lie we told you to tell!!!”
“This isn’t the first time a Delaware Republican has kicked off their campaign by making unsupported accusations about Democratic sign thuggery.”
Cone on. You really think that the GOP would tear down its own signs in the district w/ a week to go before the election just so Dave Burris can make the allegation on his blog so the comparatively few usual suspects who read the blogs can read it?
Surely you jest.
“To whom it may concern, Dave is busy right now trying to spin JC comments this morning in the News Journal. You know, where she stated she voted for Sen. Vaughn”
Well, there is one thing I’ve learned about the DE Dem Party. No one who wants to run for office dare admit they voted for someone in the GOP. Even saying you support someone in the GOP in a race is to invite personal attack and, in some cases, retribution.
The DE GOP is certainly tied more to big money than the DE Dems, but the DE GOP is far less cultish and more openly self-critical than the DE Dems.
It’s amazing how many DE Dems, even those who claim they are progressives, live in terror of pissing off Daniello. Why, I don’t know. He’s an intellectual lightweight and he’s easy to beat in a PR fight.
Dave Sokola had to fend off this crap from the GOPer scum who ran against him last election.
At that time it was made known that this is a documented GOPer strategy. They teach this skullduggery in GOPer scum school.
“They teach this skullduggery in GOPer scum school.”
Foolish thing too. Since they can never match the underhanded crap pulled by the Democrats. How many Democrat voters in Chicago live 6 feet under?
“Dave Sokola had to fend off this crap from the GOPer scum who ran against him last election.
At that time it was made known that this is a documented GOPer strategy. They teach this skullduggery in GOPer scum school.”
LOL! Talk about revisionist history. This tops even your fantasy literature about the unimpeachable goodness of Senator McDowell.
LOL! Talk about revisionist history.
Hey GiggleGuts – Nancy is correct on the history. Just because you refused to cover it at the time doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Shame on you for giving the GOP a pass on their dirty tricks.
Now we have two recent DE Senate races which were kicked off with fake GOP claims of Dem sign thuggery. The giveaway to the fakery is the lack of police reports. If it wasn’t before, it is now a documented GOP pattern.
The audio documenting the ’06 incident will become available again if needed for a future race.
“Nancy is correct on the history.”
I listen to the WDEL debate between Ramone & Sokola. The accusation was NOT that Ramone’s people took down Sokola’s signs, but that Sakola’s people took down Ramone’s.
“The audio documenting the ‘06 incident will become available again if needed for a future race.”
Bring it on. Produce the audio. E-mail it to me and I’ll post it…that is, if you really have it. 😉
First State Politics Blog has great potential but my comments on issues are 100% blocked so I gave up.
We are too busy with other more important matters.
I hope the Sussex GOP gets a new leader committed to moving the party ahead for 2008.
I listen to the WDEL debate between Ramone & Sokola. The accusation was NOT that Ramone’s people took down Sokola’s signs, but that Sakola’s people took down Ramone’s.
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Dana, you should get out of own your way once in a while, dude.
This is exactly what the intertubes research showed during the 2006 election -to repeat the lie that the opposition is stealing your signs.
Ramone started up this scam on Sokola and, of course, JC’s team is adding on by claiming that it is union labor doing all of the dirty work for the DEMs.
GOPer M.O.-
Your team starts a rumor about the other side’s stealing yard signs. Then you say it enough times so that the spin starts to stick and in true tightwingo form, people with a bit of credibility start to believe it.
Dana you’re their poster child.
Flame me all you want on McDowell, just sinking your own ship on the way. I have made plenty of noise about McDowell in the last few weeks over on Tommywonk. You really ought to get out more.
I think the “Sign Whine” is not meant so much to influence voters, but more to energize the campaign workers putting up the signs.
Let me get this union thing straight. The DSEA refused to endorse Christian, who is on the school board. That means the teachers don’t like the job she’s doing on the school board?
I’ll let Dave spin this one.
The DSEA refused to endorse Christian, who is on the school board. That means the teachers don’t like the job she’s doing on the school board?
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I rather think that the DSEA is simply partisan as hell and know where their bread is buttered with this endorsement.
Does the DSEA have its own goons, or do they subcontract to the Teamsters? I imagine they have a few gym teachers who could tear down signs, or even slash a few tires in a pinch.
‘The DSEA refused to endorse Christian, who is on the school board. That means the teachers don’t like the job she’s doing on the school board?”
Take a look across the country and you find that Educational Association LEADERSHIP tends to be EXTREMELY partisan. For instance, even if the republican candidate guaranteed teachers a doubling of salary and more time off, the New Jersey Education Association wouldn’t endorse them. They just can’t endorse a republican. I know little of DSEA but would assume it is similar. The best was when years ago NJEA endoresed Florio. He subsequently SCREWED them royally. And I laughed my ever loving butt off. There were more “Impeach Florio” stickers than there ever were to vote for him.
NJEA has modulated a bit. If a Dem will not be good for them, they will just do no endorsement.
I think you will find that teachers at a whole are not much different politically than the rest of the community, it is just that the EA being a union, tends to draw more democrats. If the EA’s actually voted across the board on their endorsement, the results would be a LOT less Democrat. Precisely why the endorsements are decided by the leadership. They don’t trust their members to “do the right thing”.
“our team starts a rumor about the other side’s stealing yard signs. Then you say it enough times so that the spin starts to stick and in true tightwingo form, people with a bit of credibility start to believe it.”
Duh. They have photographs. Besides, why would they trash their own signs just to falsely accuse them Dems on the blogs? Now think about that. It will not gain the Repubs any votes to trash their own signs for the few people that read the blogs. It’s better for them to keep the signs up IN THE DISTRICT to reach more voters.
“Flame me all you want on McDowell, just sinking your own ship on the way. I have made plenty of noise about McDowell in the last few weeks over on Tommywonk.”
I’ve heard you on the air sucking up to ol’ Harris and his “protect Delmarva Power” utility dodge (proposal). Do you think about the nail he fantasizes that went into Bluewater’s coffin?
why would they trash their own signs
They probably wouldn’t. Nobody mentioned that scenario except you.
But they WOULD take advantage of a single downed sign, whether through wind or vandalism, to try to claim a sign-destruction campaign organized by the opposition.
It’s a documented Republican pattern now.
By the way, I’ll post the Ramone and Sokola robocalls, if you post an actual scan or audio of the original Sokola piece that triggered Ramone’s threat to sue. You know, the one that got you all hot and bothered. That is, if you really have it 🙂
“By the way, I’ll post the Ramone and Sokola robocalls, if you post an actual scan or audio of the original Sokola piece that triggered Ramone’s threat to sue. You know, the one that got you all hot and bothered. That is, if you really have it”
Anon, I don’t have a recoding of the WDEL interview. But you can send me an mp3 file and I will use my audio service to post it. Also, I will protect your anonymity.
delawarewatch@yahoo.com
I’ve heard you on the air sucking up to ol’ Harris and his “protect Delmarva Power” utility dodge (proposal). Do you think about the nail he fantasizes that went into Bluewater’s coffin?
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I, as you, try to be balanced Dana, at least you used to come across as more than just an egotistical asshole…..
McDowell evidently was glad that the proposal was tanked, not wind power itself. [I do not know McDowell but a close friend of mine does know him well, someone I hold in high regard.]
I too was glad that the proposal was tanked. We don’t want to be tied into a 25 year lock (sounds like another monopoly to me) and we certainly do not need the gas plant in this deal.
I plan on interviewing McDowell to give him a chance to clear the air. And I plan on taking a look at the SEU’s minutes when DP&L lobbyist Joe Farley brought 4 DP&L lawyers in to slam the SEU conservation policies.
Dana, you take an awful lot of hear-say to heart. I try to keep an open mind:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tommywonk+nancy+willing+harris+mcdowell&btnG=Search
The GOPer dirty tricks include robo calls to DEMs about the theft of signs, calls that go to the DEM households at inappropriate times or over and over tailor-made to annoy and discourage
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/5/191647/511
The WDEL interview is irrelevant. I listened to that myself.
What I want is the alleged Sokola piece that prompted Ramone to issue his public legal threats. You and Mike M. have made strong statements about Sokola based on that piece but I have never seen it, and now it seems you haven’t either (Same for FSP, but I expect better from you).
I am betting that if it emerges, it is scrupulously accurate and nothing like your portrayal.
Fulcher reading something on the air is not a trustworthy substitute for the real thing. Without that actual document, any statement about a “dirty” campaign is bullshit.
If I get that missing piece I will write up a complete timeline with all relevant campaign materials linked and included.
This history is rather tiresome and is not worth arguing for its own sake. But it seems the GOP is now repeating the trick with the Christian signs. They are also trying to implant a Sokola “dirty campaign” myth which must be rebutted with the facts.
I am not affiliated with any candidate. I have these materials only because I receive them in my home.
I am not interested in bashing Ramone at this time and I extend him best wishes in private life. He has done the honorable thing by not commenting after the election.
But I do see this story as a failure of the blogosphere (not to mention the News Journal). It is incredible to me that you and Mike M. perpetuate the myth of a “dirty” Sokola campaign, when the materials show that the dirt originated with Ramone’s too-clever robocall. And he reaped the whirlwind.
The facts of this ’06 campaign only became relevant again when FSP tried to repeat the trick with the Christian signs.
The Sokola campaign was so dirty, they’ll never be able to wash it off.
I remember a blog posting the Sokola piece. I think it was Dana.
Dave,
I can’t wait for your reports of ten-foot tall Protack thugs tearing down signs and mangling iron bars with their bare hands.
I remember a blog posting the Sokola piece. I think it was Dana.
Try again.
If it had been posted anywhere I would have downloaded it and I’d be posting it myself today.
Keep asking and you will keep getting these vague references to second-hand sources.
Nobody wants to publish it now because it would invalidate the “dirty Sokola” myth they are all invested in.
heh,
someone posted over on FSP that JC told a thug to go around taking down her own signs and throw them in the woods. That, if true, would verify that JC is whack and wants to smear Ennis by this crazy sign-gate smut.
And for the record, I do not think that JC is a party to any of this crazy sign-gate stuff.
“It is incredible to me that you and Mike M. perpetuate the myth of a “dirty” Sokola campaign, when the materials show that the dirt originated with Ramone’s too-clever robocall. And he reaped the whirlwind.”
Oh, please. That crap Sokola passed around about Ramone getting arrested was disgusting and the lawsuits he got involved in as a business man, as if someone who has several businesses doesn’t experience lawsuits a few times. You really got to be kidding.
Sokola basically admitted he engaged in dirty tricks too. He rationalized it by saying “They say you have to do it,”
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgrfjsw8_428dhhjn3
“I am not interested in bashing Ramone at this time and I extend him best wishes in private life. He has done the honorable thing by not commenting after the election.”
Not commenting after the election? You are certainly a master of spin. After the constant smears that went in the doors of homes about him in the district in the DEAD OF NIGHT (that was interesting), the poor man was traumatized by all the abuse.
The fact that some of you Dems are engaging in this revisionism now shows how guilty you really feel about having winked at his campaign’s tactics. And you should be ashamed of yourselves.
The problem w/ you Dems who want to win at any cost and then lie about it later is that there really is very little that is democratic about you. You are party hacks, just as cultist, deceiving, and mean-spirited as a Rovian Republican. You only tell yourselves that you are better because you hate Bush’s corruption and Iraq war. But the only reason you hate them is because a Republican Prez is doing them. If it had been a President Gore (an unlikely prospect I grant, but speaking hypothetically) or a Prez Kerry, you would be just as sophistical and rationalizing as the cultist Repubs are now.
You people aren’t deceiving anyone. I can’t wait for the day when the DE Dem Party marginalizes your kind and replaces you w/ Dems who know it’s far more important to be truly democratic first before you are a Democrat.
“someone posted over on FSP that JC told a thug to go around taking down her own signs and throw them in the woods.”
No. That’s your usual level of accuracy.
Someone ASKED Joanne why she told someone to remove all of her signs in Clayton, because the Ennis thug who actually removed them used that as his excuse. Of course she didn’t do that.
“No. That’s your usual level of accuracy.”
Bingo.
Garrett, you are swiftly becoming the joke you were born to be. Pity.
You are party hacks, just as cultist, deceiving, and mean-spirited as a Rovian Republican. You only tell yourselves that you are better because you hate Bush’s corruption and Iraq war. But the only reason you hate them is because a Republican Prez is doing them. If it had been a President Gore (an unlikely prospect I grant, but speaking hypothetically) or a Prez Kerry, you would be just as sophistical and rationalizing as the cultist Repubs are now.
Lol !
I know you WANT to believe this. But please…
hat crap Sokola passed around about Ramone getting arrested
Uh-huh. So you couldn’t find it either.
I thought so.
C’mon, man, put your journalism hat back on and go get the primary documents – not second-hand reports from axe-grinders.
Jason, the post I referenced above that Dave is admitting to (and creates a spin that Dana mindlessly regurgitates hatefully toward me) seems to have been removed from FSP. Perhaps I missed it but I just looked around for it.
Perhaps Dana can find it since he is GOD.
Nancy, Dave’s version of that particular comment is correct. I am sure he will find it and post it shortly.
But that still doesn’t excuse it from being more unsubstantiated anecdotal BS.
The way I read the story, JC stood face-to-face with an eyewitness to a serious election crime, and let the eyewitness walk away without getting sufficient info for a police report.
Either that, or it was all a made-up anecdote.
OK, no wonder it took a while. The comment is on the Minner post since the Sign-gate post was closed comments for a period……until Dave heard voices in his head telling him to open the comments? Or was that Dana? sooooooo confusing.
Dave’s comment:
“Christian had a woman walk up to her in Smyrna the other day and asked her why she ordered all of the Christian signs in Clayton be taken down. Seems some man walked through Clayton and took all the Christian signs down and threw them in the woods. Someone asked him what he was doing and he said Joanne had told him to do it.”
#21 http://firststatepolitics.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/colossal-failure/#comments
Dave, Dana, how is the following an inaccurate representation of the above….???
“JC told a thug to go around taking down her own signs and throw them in the woods.”
Dave didn’t even bother to add any qualifier. Of course he ignores the fact that I qualified that I didn’t believe it. Inaccurate?
Bite me.
Nancy, Dave’s version of that particular comment is correct. I am sure he will find it and post it shortly.
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I am sorry anony, but Dave repeated the anecdote without qualifying that he beleived that it was false. I reported exactly what was posted.
well, not exactly but the gist of it as written………
🙂
If Dave is sloppy in his writing, is that my fault?
/she devil herself
well, not exactly but the gist of it as written.
If Dave is sloppy in his writing, is that my fault?
/she devil herself
Good point about JC’s gigantic failure as keeper of the public trust when it comes to her not having taken appropriate action when a constituent allegedly came to her with a first-hand account of a crime.
What say you Dave?
JC: …”Hello Dave, this is JoAnne. Listen, I’m here with some lady who just told me she saw a guy throwing all our signs in the woods, and when she asked him why she said I told him to! Should I call the police and have them talk to this lady?”
DAVE: “No… I have a better idea…”
“Garrett, you are swiftly becoming the joke you were born to be. Pity.”
Can you believe that Nancy would actually think SHE has earned the right to say this about anyone?
Take another swig, Nancy, and come up w/ a new view.
Here’s an audio interview I did w/ Ramone. About 20 minutes into the interview he talks about one of Sakola’s hit pieces. He also mentions later on how his signs had been cleaned out.
http://www.hipcast.com/playweb?audioid=Pa669f795844281d85c6bac84e90795baYl1%2BQ1REYmF1&buffer=5&shape=6&fc=FFFFFF&pc=6699CC&kc=66CCFF&bc=FFFFFF&autoplay=1&brand=1&player=ap21
Here’s an audio (my discussion w/ Al Mascitti) about Sakola’s putting out that Ramone was charged w/ crimes but failed to mention they were dismissed.
http://www.hipcast.com/playweb?audioid=P7a79c9989cba019a83575d7b594131ebYl1%2BQ1REYmBx&buffer=5&shape=6&fc=FFFFFF&pc=6699CC&kc=66CCFF&bc=FFFFFF&autoplay=1&brand=1&player=ap21
Yea, it’s only the DE GOP that has engaged in dirty tricks. LOL!
And what did Mr. Ethical Dave Sakola say about his dirty tricks? I’ve already given it to you but you ESTABLISHMENT Dems have ignorned it:
“They say you have to do it,”
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgrfjsw8_428dhhjn3
I guess one of the other things that have to be done is his minnions to lie about the record of his campaign and then, incredibly, USE THAT VERY LIE to cover up your dirty tricks in another race, this special election.
How you can live w/ yourselves escapes me.
You ESTABLISHMENT Dems lose virtually every argument because you don’t deal on the basis of FACTS. No wonder you often can’t find your “evidence.” It doesn’t exist.
You have tarnished my party w/ your lies, dishonesty and distortions. You have so little integrity that many of you can’t even oppose a monster of despotism like Adams when given a chance to endorse someone running against who is far & away better than Adams.
I know what you think. You believe you sitting pretty w/i the DE Dem Party because you play ball w/ the current leadership. Bit you will swept to the margins. Remember I that I said it. Save the link to this page.
You’ll change your tune later. I promise you. But how you’ve conducted yourself will not be forgotten. You can bet on it.
“Perhaps Dana can find it since he is GOD.”
No, Nancy, I’m not even close to being godlike. But I’m not surprised you believe that anyone who isn’t a shill for the DE Dem Party is a god. Your mistake is in failing to grasp it requires very little effort for others to be better than you.
I’ve heard it before, but I will scour your audio to see if it contains any clues I missed the first time around that leads to the missing document.
Dana: If I find the document and it doesn’t accuse Ramone of a crime, I will catalog every post you ever made saying that it does.
Sorry I’ve been so quiet on this. Needless to say, having been present at one of Ramone’s press conferences and seen first-hand the shit Sokola peddled, I’m with Dana on this. You cultist Dems need to get over yourselves.
Ah yes Mike M… that was the day your scanner wasn’t working. Did you get it fixed yet or do we need to take up a collection?
Since you saw the document first-hand, maybe you would like to go on the record describing the exact accusation?
Bearing in mind of course that one day the document will be found to “check” your recollection.
You and Dana are like guys peddling Bigfoot sightings. Come up with the document you are blasting Sokola for, or admit you don’t know what you are talking about.
Anon,
Who the fuck are you? Come out with your fucking name or shut the fuck up.
Fucking moron.
Anon,
I was at the fucking press conference where Ramone’s wife was in manic tears. He provided all of us a copy of the arrest record. He also broke it down for us. He got into an argument with someone. Someone got mad and called the cops. He was arrested. Arrest was ridiculous. Record was expunged.
Fourteen years later an asshole-senator named Dave Sokola dredged the shit up and started spreading it like a Rte. 13 hooker. This is true. No, I don’t have the literature or the expunged arrest record.
I guess because they never recovered 6,000,000 bodies exactly that the fucking Holocaust never happened, heh?
Fucking Democrat loon.
You won’t believe this…I just found the video of Ramone’s press conference. I’m YouTubeing the shit as we speak.
Really? I didn’t think he was arrested. I thought it was some trivial police call that his name ended up in.
My point is that I doubt Sokola accused him of a crime, or of being arrested. I am looking for the material, not the reaction shots.
Out of respect to the Ramone family you really shouldn’t YouTube this stuff, unless it somehow contains the Sokola material I am looking for. If doesn’t, it won’t prove anything and I’m not interested. But if it does, fire away.
Out of respect to the Ramone family?!?! You’ve got to be kidding me. You’re defending the man who slimed him last year.
Anyway, it was a public PRESS CONFERENCE. WDEL released video. So will I.
“Dana: If I find the document and it doesn’t accuse Ramone of a crime, I will catalog every post you ever made saying that it does.”
You are such a scumbag. You distort people words w/i the same thread. I never said Sokola accused Ramone of committing crimes but of being CHARGED with them.
You keep hiding behind your “anon” name so you can tell your lies w/ impunity.
I doubt you will find your document. All of you Ennis supporters claim to have documents you can never produce.
“Out of respect to the Ramone family?!?! You’ve got to be kidding me. You’re defending the man who slimed him last year.”
He doesn’t give a shit about the Ramone family. He merely wants less evidence out there on the web of what really happened. He wants to engage in his revisionism w/ total immunity…and anonymity as well.
He’s a liar hiding behind a mask–the worst liar possible.
“Perhaps Dana can find it since he is GOD.”
No, Nancy, I’m not even close to being godlike. But I’m not surprised you believe that anyone who isn’t a shill for the DE Dem Party is a god. Your mistake is in failing to grasp it requires very little effort for others to be better than you.
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sheesh, nothing better describes your ego problem than that comment. Good on ya idiot.
Take another swig, Nancy, and come up w/ a new view.
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oh wow, so now I am an alchy? Yeah, I got drunk at Matthews party. I was nervous about meeting Wharton in person since I had supported Biden and all y’all were big Wharton affictionatos.
When I am nervous, I sometimes hit the booze.
No doubt you have turned that incident into one of your favorite stories. Big man that.
Dear Nancy,
See how that Biden thing keeps biting you in the ass? That being said, you’re doing a wonderful job of handing Garrett his in this debate.
Love,
miscreant
Matthews posted the film.
http://www.downwithabsolutes.com/
The film makes it clear the Dems lied about Sakola being arrested on the hit piece they sent out throughout the district right before the election.
“They say you have to do it,” Sakola said.
Anon is a liar and Nancy Willing is a fellow traveler.
Case closed.
“See how that Biden thing keeps biting you in the ass?”
It has nothing to do w/ Biden.
“That being said, you’re doing a wonderful job of handing Garrett his in this debate.”
Yea, if using distortion and obfuscation and a total lack of evidence is “handling” me well, she is great.
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I’m making a copy of this link in order to show how the establishment Dems lied about the Ramone & Sakola race, continue to do so, and use this lie to revise the record of what actually happened in the race to cover their tracks when they pull the same dirty in other races.
Anon was smart in keeping anonymous, but Nancy Willing has just established a record on the web of aiding and abetting the lie. She has lost what little credibility she had.
Dana, there is nothing here from me about Sokola on Ramone. That stands as deplorable, no matter what kind of shit you try to pull. Talk about a lying distortionist….check out your nasty mug in the mirror.
My comments revolved around the documented filth that GOPers pull to win elections. In this case, as with JC, it remains for open-minded people to wonder if the scum have maintained their signs are trashed by DEMs in a direct, unproven slur of their opponents.
The god comment was all about your influence over Burris.
Your curious lack of humor and inability to appreciate irony must be why you typically fail to grasp what people are actually saying to you most of the time. Get a life!
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miscreant
Dana “never” loses an argument. I handed him his ass on the discussion about Larry Craig too but his ego prevents him from accepting it.
He also has a fixation on McDowell, admittedly shared by many progressives. My mind is more open but Dana takes my counter punches of his one-sided stance as “I must be getting paid by McDowell” etc., etc. absurd reaching that does nothing to bolster his creds.
Notice how Nancy Willing can’t keep her lies straight:
She says:
“Dana, there is nothing here from me about Sokola on Ramone.”
NOW a sober thinking person would bother to check the thread before they wrote such a claim, but in her stupor she fogot. So let’s examine what she said here. Notice these are HER words. I point that out because when Nancy attacks a person she almost never quotes what they say but mischaracterizes what they said into something she finds easier to attack (e.g., my comments on Larry Craig). Here is he #12:
“Dave Sokola had to fend off this crap from the GOPer scum who ran against him last election.
At that time it was made known that this is a documented GOPer strategy. They teach this skullduggery in GOPer scum school.”
Nothing here from her about Sakola from “the GOPer scum who ran against him last election” (“Ramone”)? LOL! Nay, nothing unless Ramone = Scum doesn’t count. What an idiot Namcy is!
“He also has a fixation on McDowell, admittedly shared by many progressives. My mind is more open but Dana takes my counter punches of his one-sided stance as “I must be getting paid by McDowell” etc., etc. absurd reaching that does nothing to bolster his creds.”
As to this, you don’t have an open mind. You have an inconsistent one. You condemn in some candidates what you accept in McDowell. I heard the man say in a debate w/ Tyler & the other guy that he opposes Peterson’s FOIA bill. You support it, but you give him a pass on it. I have heard you speak favorably before about wind power, but once McDowell didn’t like it neither did you. Your animus toward Potter is all related to your devotion to McDowell. That’s transparent.
But I’ve thought about this Nancy. You can be a zealot for McDowell for any reason but that wouldn’t keep me from associating w/ you. But when you went w/ him against Bluewater you like him condemned DE to energy dependence to big corps; perhaps, even the nation since DE’s windpower project would be the biggest in the nation. I know if McDowell had supported it, so would you. But he didn’t. It’s one thing to support him on some things of lesser consequences. But when you gave up on the Bluewater deal for him and trashed the public and national good potentially for generations, you crossed a line w/ me. I want nothing more to do w/ you. Please don’t comment on my blog or speak to me in public. Someone like Grex can oppose Bluewater because he’s a corporation nazi and get my attention because he’s not hypocritical. But you, Nancy, when you trash a value I know you possess because of your strange devotion to one politician, well, as far as I’m concerned, you have done the political equivalent of selling your soul. As far as this progressive is concerned, you are Judas Iscariot. I want nothing more to do w/ you.
Dana,
remember only a Sith deals in absolutes.
-Obi Wan Kenobi
Dana, STOP you’re an embarrassment, dude!
Perhaps I am not communicating my point clearly dear.
Sokola on Ramone would be the stupid position of bringing up the business problems…declasse but not completely irrelevant for someone going into the Assembly.
Ramone on Sokola is the shit that Ramone put out a la sign-gate. Dana remembers PROOF. I don’t.
I will puke if I have to read through the tripe above that suggests that I am against Bluewater Wind. I will, however, be at the 7 and 40 Alliance meeting on Monday night in Bear for the face-off between DP&L and BlueWater Wind. I hope that anyone who would wonder where I stand would bother to see for themselves. Participation is expected and I have some questions for both parties. Come out Garrett. Dare ya.