Asleep At The Wheel
Man oh man. I am so sick of these geriatric losers. I can’t tell you.
Hey Adams – Die or get off the pot!
(h/t DWA – Photo by the News Journal)
Man oh man. I am so sick of these geriatric losers. I can’t tell you.
Hey Adams – Die or get off the pot!
(h/t DWA – Photo by the News Journal)
Anyone for cauliflower?
Just because medical science makes it possible to live to be 150 – doesn’t make it right.
Adams is so old, he cut the umbilical cord when McCain and Castle were born.
I think God forgot about him.
I had a legislator tell me that he can almost never talk to Adams in Leg Hall w/o smelling alcohol on his breath.
Just look at him. It makes me wonder if it’s true.
Huh, more low-class anonymously-sourced sleaze out of the intertubes’ own mr holy man.
As if that is appropriate as a scuttle buttism. It is certainly nothing new.
You must have read the statements from Adams BFF Vaughn’s peeps after he passed. Drinking at the bar was one of the things that he most enjoyed and it was where you could ‘always find him’. It is a life-style enjoyed by most good old boy pols, or so it would seem from the numbers of them who used to get popped with regularity once the MADD movement geared up and cops actually started to arrest their ‘bosses’.
There are plenty of things to say about this SOB without resorting to this tripe.
Zing!
Oh, and I heard that Adams had fathered African-American children out of wedlock. But it was with a slave that his family owned in 1845, so I think it’s OK.
Let’s face the facts. Probably the only reason Nancy Willing isn’t INVENTING sleaze about Thurman Adams is because he isn’t a black man (e.g. Potter & Bullock).
The Senator is almost 80 years old. Alcohol is not needed to explain that photo.
Let’s face the facts. Probably the only reason Nancy Willing isn’t INVENTING sleaze about Thurman Adams is because he isn’t a black man (e.g. Potter & Bullock).
Again, how is that comment not libellous? You said to face the facts, so how is it not libel? Because YOU said it? Sheesh!
You tell me how it is libelous? She has passed out info about Potter that had false claims (you haven’t even seen it, so you are talking out your ass).
She made claims about Bullock she refused to prove. Where is the libel?
I believe Nancy is a bigot. Not a racist but a bigot. That’s my belief. So if she wants to sue me for a belief, let her go ahead. Besides, I would welcome her attempts to try to prove the things she’s said about others.
She can’t.
No run away, Smitty. Dave needs to have his boots licked.
don’t you 2 morons have your own websites to bitch and moan to each other?
Actually, Dana, you are ignoring the counter charge with an argument that “she did it, too!” Is that really your defense?
I had a legislator tell me that he can almost never talk to Adams in Leg Hall w/o smelling alcohol on his breath.
How is this different from Nancy saying, “I have it on good authority that X fathered an illegitimate child”?
“How is this different from Nancy saying, “I have it on good authority that X fathered an illegitimate child”?
You have a point. One that didn’t occur to me until you said it.
There is something of a difference though. She said that X fathered a child and harassed women. Whereas I said what I heard and WONDERED: “It makes me wonder if it’s true.”
She asserted it as true. I never said I believed it was true, only I wondered if it was.
So by that reasoning, if Nancy had just said “I heard that X had fathered a child and harrassed women. This photo of X next to a hot woman makes me wonder if those rumors are true.” That would be OK (or at least better)?
I think that was Nancy’s point in her understandably bitter comment above.
Do you stand by your comment or do you think it is moderated enough to pass the muster that you enforce on others in the Delaware blogosphere?
If Nancy had said the above, would you have lambasted her?
I certainly don’t want to draw your ire, but it does seem to me that it illustrates an important point in the blogosphere. We all have our prejudices here and overreacting to them is sometimes setting the bar too high for any of us to adhere to. Or something like that…
Let me also state for the record that Slick and Slippery Thurman Adams is no friend of mine. I am only defending decorum.
Hey, for the record, I never said nottin bout no babies. Did I?
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Garrett suffers from his ownover blown ego. There are doctors who can help and drugs that might bring him around, but until that day should happily come, I am best off not dignifying his tripe with the attention he craves.
BTW I do still have a copy of the Potter Paper. I will be happy to post it on the blog. And everything that I have said about the Market Street PAL and his wife, Velda is true as reported to me from individuals who left her employ. No one in the District likes Potter.
Last summer, the state auditor told me of a pattern from Potter and Williams where they call for investigations of their political opponents and their friends. This is undisputed and provable and has happened over and over again. Look for it, Dana, very soon, there will likely be an investigation of those two in regards to bringing politically-based and unfounded charges against innocent people.
The attorney general’s office has completed their investigation of the People Settlement Association and its executive director, my good friend, Keith Lake. There was not a scintilla of basis for the charges brought against this good agency and its staff by these politicians.
But that is the pattern every political season, up comes another charge. In the past it has been the 1212 non-profit. I heard that this year it is the Kingwood Center where Potters current opponent for council is employed.
Your boys are going down, Dana. This has nothing at all to do with race. This has to do with character and integrity. Like I have said before, you ought to grow some.
If people are going to send this guy letters in support of the off shore wind farm, maybe they should use communication he can relate to better than e-mail…like a letter in the US Mail…or a short note via pony express….
Or a telegram:
WINDFARM GOOD STOP
CO2 EMISSIONS BAD STOP
JOBS GOOD STOP
ENERGY INDEPENDENCE GOOD STOP
THURMAN ADAMS BAD STOP
By the way, some of their M.O. seems to be to stage take-overs of these vulnerable agencies just to gain control of the resources and hand out jobs to their political allies and girl friends etc. They tried to force Keith to hire Rourk Moore so that he could have a good job when they wanted to run him against Hazel Plant. They also backed Liz Allen in her run against Plant.
They used Antoine Oakley to stage the trumped up charges against Lake in exchange for what can only be assumed was the promise of Lake’s job running the PSA. And they all acted against the agency bylaws and common decency when they passed confidential agency files to Gerry Fulcher when he worked for WDEL. Gerry had the bad taste to repeat their cherry-picked story over the air in an effort to undermine this community center on the east side. They seemingly had no compunction against gaining some political advantage and bringing down one of the only institutions left for this vulnerable community when they attacked Keith and the PSA.
don’t you 2 morons have your own websites to bitch and moan to each other?
Who you calling a mo-ron?
What…did you miss me these last two days and now you’re all bitchy?
This just in:
Dana Garrett is a self righteous, self absorbed, egomaniacal, hypocritical douche!
Please remember people, Dana is smarter, more enlightened and just plan better than you! Don’t ever forget that. It will serve you well in your future endeavors.
Do as Dana says, for he knows what’s best for all of us…not what Dana does, for only he is allowed to so do!
By the way, Dana, I still think you are an anti-Semite. Not a racist, but an anti-Semite!
“Do you stand by your comment or do you think it is moderated enough to pass the muster that you enforce on others in the Delaware blogosphere?”
Do I stand by the fact that I heard it from a legislator. Absolutely.
“If Nancy had said the above, would you have lambasted her?”
No, because it’s something I’ve heard 3rd & 4th hand often for several years. But you are not addressing the point that she asserted her claims about Bullock as a matter of fact. I didn’t about Adams. You just can’t blithely ignore that point.
Also, I also KNOW that Nancy makes up crap about people.
“BTW I do still have a copy of the Potter Paper. I will be happy to post it on the blog. ”
BS. You’ll never do it. Why say it when you know you never will? You won’t post deliberate lies and you are smart not to.
“Please remember people, Dana is smarter, more enlightened and just plan better than you! ”
Smarter is a valid but usually uninteresting comparison among persons. In any case, I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m certain I’m smarter than you.
Nice. Garrett has no recourse but to ignore the case I laid out about who and what is behind my animosity towards Potter. These are the facts about the people who have been lying about me, the very people who , I have to imagine, filled his head with lies, if one is to believe anything coming out of his mouth.
Watch me continue to post the facts about Potter, Dana.
“Watch me continue to post the facts about Potter, Dana.”
Do what you said and post the Potter Journal ON YOUR SITE you were passing out like hot cakes when Potter was in a primary against McDowell.
I bet you won’t.
Nancy Willing you are definately among the lunatic fringe….Charles Potter never backed me up when I ran against Plant.. in fact, I always wondered if Arthur Scott (who didnt even live in the district, he lived in Bear after his wife got a nice settlement from Mayor Baker)..to split the vote. Nice try though. And I will tell you this Miss Nance…you helped get Harris McDowell elected…along with ACORN when a dirty deal was made with Keith Lake, Rev. Thorton..the rest of your post is simply make believe and shir lunacy.
Even if you didnt support Potter, you could have supported Tyler Nixon and the wind power deal would be done now….but you opted for the deal that Keith Lake took….back Harris and Harris would make sure that Lake and his troubles didnt go to court. I saw the papers Nancy, with my own eyes….and have more knowledge of what transpired before hand than you ever will. And you ended up on the board along with the other supporter of Harris Mcdowel…Karen Welden Stewart who got a little gravy job in Harris’f office…yeah bring it all on. You say “no one supports Potter in his district”…you have truly lost your mind. No one does more monitoring of that district or holds more meetings with the public…than Potter. You have a lot to deal with we know on that topic. We sure will be waiting or the AG report…
Liz you saw the cherry-picked version. You were at the meeting where Antoine Oakley waved a few papers over his head and demanded that Lake resign. You were there for Lake and you had plenty to say about it at the time. I said if Potter and company were claiming that they have grounds for removing the PSA executive director, then provide your evidence to the public and sign off on it. They refused. Instead they improperly carried off agency documents (anonymously) to the media just in time to scam the public before Potter’s primary.
You are so full of shit about this, what a shame.
I guess the next thing that you will claim is that the AG’s office didn’t do a thorough review.
I fully back Tyler Nixon and in fact, because of where McDowell is putting himself, Tyler can win and he should go for it. Tyler knows I support him, we talk all the time.
What you said about ACORN is part of this awful mantra that Potter’s supporters have taken on, that anything to do with McDowell is tainted with the broad brush. Well, stay in that camp at your peril, Liz. No one is all of the dark side or the light and I think the saying goes something along the lines of kettle black and throwing stones…
You are a pathetic tool.
And I might as well add that it was our mutual friend from DE Clean Sweep that told me that Potter paid your filing fee when you ran against Hazel and your yourself told me that he comped you time on his teevee hours and then harrassed you for the money. So, whatever.
You and I were both considered for new members of the PSA along with Thornton, if you recall. You were rejected because of your demeanor at the meeting I describe above. The board are all good-hearted souls who are working hard to keep this community afloat. KWS does work for McDowell and everyone wants to hold that against her. So be it.
I was elected to the board as a friend of PSA and for no sinister reason inasmuch as you and Garrett like to puppet the sorry-assed politicians who were hell bent to destroy it.
We sure will be waiting or the AG report…
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WTF?
You and Potter will be waiting? He knows all about this. He went to the AG once the report was sent out and pitched a bitch the they hadn’t interviewed everyone. So the AG did just that.
Somehow, good old Williams wasn’t so keen on showing up to explain himself once the story had been parsed from the top and they had put their friend, Dwight, in quite a bind over his bull shit.
You may remember that Dennis and Dwight high-tailed it out of the PSA after Charlie Oberley stepped into the meeting. When the AG got close to what had really been going on, those two had some more ‘splainin to do.
When Adam Taylor came down to see what Gerry Fulcher was yapping about and to answer the calls to the WNJ editorial board demanding that they investigate the PSA, he saw right away that Keith was set up.
Go ahead and give Adam a call, dear. He will be impartial enough for you, no?
Nancy: as a civic advocate/ secretary of the B9ard are you permitted to discuss People Settlement Board actions? I think not.
2. Do you have an inside connection with the AG’s office (that you know the finding of their investigation?)
3. Is it appropriate for Board Members to also collect a check for doing a “job” at that agency?
4. Adam Taylor most assuredly hasn’t seen the documents at the Ag’s office…but got his information from the current board members.
5, Investigation complete…hardly.
6. Go to Peoples Settlement web page. and look for Mission Statememt.. I ask you what family is presented there.
7. Nancy, I have been around Wilmington since 1972, and will tell you “you are a latecomer” to Wilm. politricks.
8. Since you no everything are you aware that Peoples Settlement may loose over $100,000 from United Way, on June l, no why is that?
There are many good people trying to keep PSA open and serving the public. Why aren’t you? Instead of trashing good people who have been involved for decades, and prominent in that community.
Even though the AG;s office is not the final arbiter because if there is wrong doing and they don’t see it…it doesnt mean it isn’t wrong…but of course, you should know as a Board Member that a Board Pres cannot move money without board approval or buy property without board approval, and we will make sure the entire board gets a copy of your blogging about Board matters and that you are the one who keeps the controversy going…so blog on!
Again, more rumor and slapping crap against the wall, Willing. Charles Potter never paid my filing fee, and I paid the full amount for every show. Yes, I was at the first meeting that Charlie Oberly came, after hours of conversation from Keith as to why he was being discharged, and for a few minutes I bought the story until I saw the documents and then backed totally away.
I was not interested in being a Board Member, never sought a position but remain firmly behind PSA continuing to serve the people of the community, as they have for over 200 years.
Pathetic tool! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black Ha! I was never anyone’s tool, never ever! But you apparently bought the whole story and it will be at your peril coming on the blogs talking as a PR or Communications Director, which you most assuredly are not!
You have kept this contraversy going and no one understands why. You have tried to implicate me, even though I never attended another meeting after the one with Oberly, after I saw their proof, and you stuck with it…so you may have a lot more to answer for, than I ever will. I left because I didnt want to be involved until the controversy was cleared up. Yes there are good and well meaning people on the Board, and then there are those who want to maintain the status quo… I put you in that category. Blog on sister!
There is a letter from an attorney in the mail to Potter that will be going to every member of council, the Mayor and will be posted on my blog, Liz that sets things to rights. Keep your eyes peeled. It was sent out on Thurday morning.
This topic is something that I have resisted talking about in detail for over a year now, waiting until the AG and Auditor were satisfied that nothing untoward happened at PSA.
Now that the state has closed the matter, I am free to discuss this, especially in the light of what you, Susan, Dana and Charlie have decided to do to smear these good people.
Interesting that you have so much incorrect ‘inside’ information that you are promulgating here and almost all of it is what Potter is saying around town. HA!
May I make one correction: you told people that it was Velda Potter who cut you your filing fee check. Not true? I wouldn’t know.
It is you who have a smear campaign going. Better check with your board, to see if you have the “authority” to smear other good people in the community.
The fact is my oldest son provided me with the campaign filing fee, as if it were any of your business. You have been behind a
“back stabbing smear campaign since the election of Harris McDowell”, against Charles Potter and by proxy me. You better believe I stand with Charles, he was the only one on City Council who had a resolution against
The Patriot act”, which the community were present at huge numbers to support. He filed resolution after resolution after the Cherry Island Landfill, and voted against Eminent Domain. He and his family have devoted their adult life to the needs of the community.
He has over 70% approval rating in his district.
So rage on, Nancy and you will simply have to stop your campaign unfounded in fact, but a figment of your very active imagination.
People say lots of things behind peoples backs. Back stabbing and whisper campaigns are used by those with very weak arguments. I was not the first to go on air, as you did with the PSA affair. You have never heard me discuss PSA and the investigation until here very recently/
I reacted to your most vicious and continued attacks. We shall all see how this bears out, but you understand this my dear.
It was painful for me and many others who were actively worknig with Keith Lake, Jalaal Karim Bey, Rev. Thorton, and myself, a team who had already had several face to face conversations with Judges to change to reform the prison system. Two years of work went down the tubes, because of all this. So you need to know that you don’t have all the facts as much as you think you do…but understand for every comment you put out, I will respond. PSA will be fine, no matter what administrative activity or non-activity occurs.
It will because the community demands it, thats why its been around for 200 years, there have been many attacks in all those years, and still it survived as a beacon of true community service.
“I am free to discuss this, especially in the light of what you, Susan, Dana and Charlie have decided to do to smear these good people.”
Excuse me? I never said anything about that issue. I never understood it and could never figure out what the issue was about.
Prove that I smeared those people whoever the hell they are. Provide the link.
The only I ever said was about you passing out that horseshit about Potter during his primary w/ McDowell. I also said that you make up shit about people which is true and how in my view you get nearly orgasmic when you get an opportunity to smear a black man.
That’s you. Whatever that other psychodrama was about never made sense to me.
But it is like you to LIE and say I smeared people whose identity I don’t know about an issue I never understood.
Nancy….you a mess, Girl!
Go to The Delaware Way and rant all you want. If the ‘DL Blog Master’ doesn’t take exception to you changing the subject (which was ‘Asleep at the Wheel’) when you get the urge…I do.
If I want to read any of your disortations (on any subject) I will go to your blog. In the meantime please be so kind as to not continue this threadon Delaware Liberal. ….it has a knot in it.
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July 26, 2006
Internal Revenue Service
Ogden, UT 84201
Re: decleansweep.com
taxpayer identification number: 20-4275949, form 8871
Dear Sir:
I am writing in response to a form we received from you. Please be advised that Decleansweep.com is defunct. We had a committee who has now dissolved. We will not be filing incorporation papers, or collecting any funds for decleansweep.com.
Please remove the name of Nancy Virginia Willing, 5 Francis Circle, Newark, De 19711-2625051 from your information. She has resigned the committee and is in no way responsible for decleansweep.com.
In the meantime or until this 527 is considered non viable by your department send all mail or correspondence to: elizabeth allen, 1208 Maple St. Wilmington, De. 19805.
If there are any other forms we need to submit to make decleansweep.com defunct please contact me. My phone number is 320 888-2826.
I am returning you paperwork by mail hoping that form and this letter will suffice to make this corporation defunct.
Aincerely,
Elizabeth Allen
1208 Maple St.
Wilmington, De. 19805
P.S. We have collected a total of $125.00 for this group. A balance of $92.00 will be delivered to a charity here in Wilmington, De.
Please provide any information you will need to accomplish making this 527 null and void.
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Liz and Susan, here is why you both pissed me off. It hasn’t anything to do with anyone but you two slackers. Neither of you wanted to take responsibility for DE Clean Sweep and when it wasn’t working out, Liz insisted on ‘taking it over’ but refused to remove me from the IRS documentation. I had to harrass her until she finally wrote this letter (by the way Liz, what charity did you send the $ 95 dollars to in the end?):
Donviti: ef u 2
Dana, I was including myself in with the good people being smeared 🙂
FYI none of Liz’ personal information is the same or I would have removed it before posting.
Susan, I included you because I know what alias you are posting under and your smears are much worse considering their anonymity.
As far as the $95…we spent the money on flowers for TD’s gravesite. Don’t worry we put your name on the card too, just to prove what nice people we are.
Nancy its not cool to be a “thread thief”., go blog this crazy garbage to your hearts content on your own blog.