McCain: “Nations Don’t Invade Other Nations”
Oh God. Is this a senior moment?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h_ZbW2REcI[/youtube]
The only way McCain and the right wing can get out of this is to say that either we, the United States, or Iraq, or both, are not nations. For nations can invade non-nations whenever they want, and vice versa.
This is worse than Ford saying Poland was not under Soviet rule.
By rights this should be a campaign-ending clip.
By rights this should be a campaign-ending clip.
If Obama had said it. Yes.
However, since it was McCain and since he is allowed to say random shit and not get called on it, because his buddies in the press corps, “knew what he meant” – not so much as a blip.
Agreed – he’s a bonehead who can’t even remember what he voted for in the recent past.
If he stands by his statement then what’s the difference between the sovereignty of Georgia and Iraq, except for the racial and religious make-up?
VC, I think you just answered your own question!
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In knowledge that I am crossing a line here, but here it goes:
John McCain is retarded.
Please , Please ,get this Senile Old Man to a Nursing Home before he harms himself or others.
you are conflating retardedness with senility
How much oil is there, and can we get some? That’s the question on whether nations can invade.
Well, a nation did invade another nation on Friday. Georgia invaded South Ossetia. The media, and both candidates have ignored that fact.
So, argue all you want about McCain’s senior moment; what was Obama’s excuse?
This is Obama’s statement:
“I strongly condemn the outbreak of violence in Georgia, and urge an immediate end to armed conflict. Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war. Georgia’s territorial integrity must be respected. All sides should enter into direct talks on behalf of stability in Georgia, and the United States, the United Nations Security Council, and the international community should fully support a peaceful resolution to this crisis. “
I really do not see the problem with it, unless you. Sounds pragmatic, unless you believe that S. Ossetia is really a sovereign nation.
Contrast that with McCain’s:
“Today news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences for Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave.
The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The US should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia’s security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia.”
Bolded for idiocy.
Both Obama and McCain are showing blind loyalty to a U.S. “ally”.
No possible justification? How about the fact that Georgia started the hostilities?
Shit, they’re both at fault here. Georgia should’ve handled the pro-Russian Ossetians differently than through intimidation and Russia shouldn’t have rolled in with tanks. Both situations should’ve been handled through diplomatic channels (EU or UN). But as it is here in the US, sovereignty rules, so you can see why most of our leaders sided with the Georgians.
McCain played his hand way too early; Obama did not. That’s my point.
And don’t believe for a second that Russia’s actions have any benevolence factor at all. The attack had nothing to do with the ‘protection of its citizens; it was all about the reclamation of its Sphere of Influence.
Obama and McCain gave their reactions on the same day.
Thought I suppose it’s a point in Obama’s favor that he didn’t deny reality. Considering his response showed McCain’s denial of reality, I guess that’s a small comfort, indeed.
Wow, reading back, that made little sense, so let me rephrase:
Though I suppose it’s a point in Obama’s favor that he didn’t close his eyes like John “Nations Don’t Invade” McCain, his response showed McCain’s denial of what really caused this conflict. I guess that’s a small comfort, indeed.
“Shit, they’re both at fault here.”
My friends I have to tell you here in the 21st century, nations do not invade other nations….except our nation my friends which well, my friends let me just say there are going to be more wars, lots more wars, and well my friends, I know something about war I know how to win.
Well my friends I guess that sums up my positions sing with me Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.
Where is my goaddamn toady Lieberman…asshole told my lobbyist who sent me 2,000,000 from the treasury of Georgia, I can do whatever the fuck I want. Or was that cunt of a wife of mine? I forget get me my medications. Ok friends, sorry for that little outburst, where was I my friends, oh yeah, I remember we are going to bomb my friends lots of nations; we need the oil my friends.
My liberal friends do not understand the clarity of my thinking.
I think Bush also said this. It appears to be some kind of Republican talking point. How are they able to say this with a straight face? Bush & McCain must be better actors than I gave them credit for.
Bush did say it, was panned for saying it, was called a hypocrite for saying it.
And then two days later McCain says it again. So either McCain is stupid or he has nothing else to say.
But hey, that is just yet another reason why McCain is McSame.