Insert Jane’s addiction, Been Caught Cheatin, Once when I was 75..
ORLANDO, Fla. — Senator John McCain was not in a “cone of silence” on Saturday night while his rival, Senator Barack Obama, was being interviewed at the Saddleback Church in California.
Just a Simple fact….went I want something and I don’t want pay for it…
“The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous,” Ms. Wallace said.
Maverinnocent!
bye-bye hope you enjoyed yourself
Oooh! The Honor Code. Rick Warren is on Larry King tonight… should be interesting.
Obama was HORRIBLE in this interview. And in contrast, McCain was quite the statesman. I wasn’t a huge fan of McCain’s….until I watched that.
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/einstein-wrote-theres-nothing-more.html
Warren: McCain did not violate ‘Cone of Silence
Besides, both candidates got a cheat sheet in advance.
Face it. McCain dusted Obama. No wonder Obama’s scared to do town hall debates with McCain.
Dave, is that really your proof? The McCain Campaign said they didn’t listen? Really? Would you accept Obama’s word if the positions had been reversed? Be honest…
FSP: Obama answered his questions completely, unlike McMad who used “stories” many of which are disputed by his fellow POW’s. McMad has changed his “story” so many times, it can only be considered exaggerated.
He stated that a guard used his foot to make a cross in the dirt on Christmas day and then rubbed it out…too bad Johnny boy, but that story was depicted in a movie years ago.
McCain couldnt stay on message during the question/answer’s but insisted on going off on his little antics. How fast can you say “senility setting in”.
Don S–
Those comments were blatantly racist. Are you defending racism?
McCain was a POW for a number of years and, despite all the bellyaching by you liberals that the story comes up too much, he really did refuse early release when he could have had it. His heroism and courage should be absolutely unquestioned.
If McCain didn’t take the easy way out then, and he tells us that he didn’t hear the questions on Saturday, that absolutely is good enough. And by the way, there is no evidence–none–that he heard the questions. Face it, McCain did well, Obama did not.
But it just goes back to the fact that most partisan liberals can’t accept the fact that there are articulate Republicans who are smart and well-spoken. It’s an article of faith for diehard liberals that they’re all the smartest ones in the room.
Obama voted “present” how many times?????? There’s real courage and leadership for you. Take away Obama’s teleprompter and he’s just not very good (putting aside the fact that he is constantly trying to appear less liberal then he really is — that, after all, is why he kept voting “present,” he didn’t want to reveal his liberal stripes so much).
calling Obama a “lawn Jockey” is unacceptable. So yes I did censor.
You know the rules. You toe the line constantly, but at least you know where the line is.
The problem with McCain is that being a POW didn’t teach him shit.
when it came down to it, he voted in favor of torture.
Doesn’t anyone find it funny that McCain is a war hero for being a POW but we have how many thousand Muslim War Hero’s waiting to be released?
And there’s no evidence that he didn’t hear the questions. There is evidence, however, that he wasn’t in the “Cone of Silence” like he was supposed to have been.
Again… switch positions. If Obama had done the same and then said, “Cross my heart and hope to die, stick a needle in my eye” would that have been good enough?
FSP,
what happened to McCains campaign not speaking for the candidate?
Obviously I didn’t see the context of the comment, but what is specifically “racist” about calling Obama a “lawn jockey?”
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Unfucking real.
I’m not saying it wasn’t inappropriate, only that not every negative & degrading comment levied towards someone is implicitly racist. Not that I’d actually expect some of you to understand that.
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Oh how I love one word comments.
Donviti:
If the situation were reversed would you assume Obama was lying and had listened to the questions?
Okay, so the simple matter is that McCain was not where he was suppossed to be in order to guarantee that he would have no access to the questions prior to his interview. The McCain camp has admitted that he was not in that location but on the way to the church during the Obama interview. McCain’s campaign says he did not hear anything (AKA NOT JOHN MCCAIN). So the simple truth is that McCain’s camp lied and left open the possibility that it was prepared in advance for the interview by not following the rules (sounds like our current president, Hmm McCain = Bush shocker).
Also, just b/c he is a war hero equates to never questioning his word or judgement? If that is correct then are we going back to 2004 and removing BUSH from office for what was said against Kerry (another war hero)?
Oh, and if the situation was reversed then it would be completely fair to say Obama didn’t follow the rules and could have been prepared in advance.
facts don’t stand in the way of the truth Phantom
DBB – That’s certainly true on DL.
And Phantom – John Kerry a war hero……
If the situation were reversed would you assume Obama was lying and had listened to the questions?
duffy,
I can honestly say yes. But thank god we won’t have to know for real. The guy flat out lied about it is my problem. Not once, but a couple of times.
Politicians Lie. McCain does, and so does Barack “hope, change, new kind of politics” Obama.
Don’t you just hate it when a Preacher does not get his Dogma correct?
Or when a news reporter / media / editor happens to spin an article?
Or …
PS: Who do we trust? How can we tell?
I like to look at voting records and statements made on issues BEFORE the candidate started running for President.
Hmmm… Like the “Cross in the Dirt” story? That didn’t appear until 1999.
pan,
he was keeping it private.
Mccain voted with bush 95% of the time last year
Mike,
I like to conisder someone earning a purple heart for bravery during a war (unless Vietnam was not a war just a conflict in which case isn’t McCain just a conflict hero?) a war hero. I know that the pentagon is completely inefficient in your eyes but they do seem to be able to vet and maintain documentation regarding awards. Plus the basic point was that given the way Kerry was questioned that McCain deserves the same basic treatment regardless of his military service. I’m not advocating swift boating (though the McCain camp seems to be all for that against Obama.) but rather the elimination of this pathetic idea that since McCain was a POW that he is inherently unable to lie or act like a politician.
You guys are completely unhinged that McCain outperformed Obama by every measure at their first joint appearance. It is a lovely thing to behold.
And you haven’t answered the question…
Dave, is that really your proof? The McCain Campaign said they didn’t listen? Really? Would you accept Obama’s word if the positions had been reversed? Be honest…
DV:
“The guy flat out lied about it is my problem. Not once, but a couple of times.”
Obama or McCain?
And there’s no evidence that he didn’t hear the questions.
I get it. There’s no proof that he heard the questions, but pandora wants PROOF that he didn’t hear them. Ever hear of CAN’T PROVE A NEGATIVE, pan? Of course, but then again, you, like your idiot brethren here, don’t know much period.
Maybe you’ll begin floating the idea that McCain was wired and Karl Rove was feeding him answers — like y’all claimed in ’04.
hube, I was picturing McCain more like Leno, huddled in a closet listening on another phone.
Duffy – Obama doesn’t lie. He can’t, he’s The One. He just nuances his positions, like supporting the DC gun ban on several occasions and then saying he didn’t when DC lost.
Y’all might be interested in this. The fact is that both Obama and McCain KNEW the first two questions in advance, and the general theme of the later ones. That, and Obama actually knew a third question in advance, one more than McCain. Due to logistical hassles, McCain was unable to get the third before the forum.
ahhh, pube so cute you are. trying to change the issue are we. How unlike you.
“The guy flat out lied about it is my problem. Not once, but a couple of times.”
My alternative to president is much better than yours 🙂
dimwitty: Whatever manifests itself as cognition with you ain’t workin’. At all.
1) You’ve no proof McCain “cheated.”
2) The link I posted above makes the matter moot anyhow.
3) You and your co-morons here want people to prove a negative.
4) Obama got his ass handed to him and you can’t stand it.
I didn’t see it. Why would I want to have a forum between the two candidates moderated by a cult leader?
Results are in from the news sites:
Obama did well, not great, but may have made in-roads with a very partisan (pro-McCain) crowd.
McCain did very well, since that one-on-one, informal setting allows him to shine, unlike debates and speeches. One running press criticism of McCain was his reliance on using his POW experience as a filter for almost every answer. Though he played to his crowd very well, the war stories, to the MSM, is getting very old.
I loved the part where Obama criticized Clarence Thomas’s experience and his intellectual ability.
Obama certainly is in no position to be questioning whether anyone, particularly someone like Clarence Thomas is “experienced.” As far as being a legal thinker. Thomas would destroy Obama in a 1-on-1 debate.
Wow Hube,
Glad to see you are still around to spew complete nonsense. How about I reference an article from the Nation and call it unbiased and completely accurate. A link to the national review, OKAY.
Also, the issue was that McCain agreed to be at the forum at a specific time so that it would be a controlled environment in which it could be guaranteed that he would not hear the questions. The undisputed fact is that he was not at that location and therefore opens the possibility that he had preparation. The fact that the possibility is left open is completely his own fault and that is what the issue is. Somehow he couldn’t tell time or didn’t care enough to be there on time. It is the possibility that causes the issue and not the determination as to whether he actually did prepare using Obama’s interview.
Oh, and an Obama/Thomas debate would not be the smackdown you envision as Thomas is so stuck on his principles that facts can’t enter into his belief system.
1) not being in the sound proof room is breaking the rules aka cheating
2) changed the subject…I didn’t read it
3) he broke the rules, no negative to prove really
4) i didn’t see it, Like VC why would I entertain it. So I guess you support McCain. Good to know. How shocking, now, baaaah sheep, bahhhh
Hube, the box was clearly seen on Bush’s back from photos taken during the debate. Are you in doubt that he was getting fed his answers (for at least the first three years of his presidency).
On CNN today they covered the McCain camp’s faux outrage over Andrea Mitchell’s statement that the Obama camp was privately saying that McCain wasn’t in the cone.
She then inferred that McCain was ‘too well prepared’. heh.
He must have been listening to Obama’s discussion and figured how to give responses that would work the crowd.
Wow, if you guys are this unhinged already, I can’t imagine the pink elephants you’ll see when Obama tanks in the debates.
Nancy,
It was obvious to me that McCain had cribbed off Obama’s earlier interview.
There is no mystery here.
Yeah, ’cause there’s just no way that a candidate could do a better job in a debate than Barack Obama.
Nancy Willing to Believe Anything: “Hube, the box was clearly seen on Bush’s back from photos taken during the debate. Are you in doubt that he was getting fed his answers (for at least the first three years of his presidency).”
I think all people who believe in conspiracies should be quietly kidnapped from their beds at night by special forces in black outfits and driving in unmarked cars, and never heard from again.
Oh grow up!! You all write like these 2 were on the “Dating Game” as Bachelor #1 and Bachelor #2–what question was asked that you DIDN’T know how they were going to answer? All that was missing was the turn and blow a big kiss at the end.
Now for a PSA, because I don’t know where to post it. Just returned from AZ…now the airlines say the suitcase is too long by 1/2 inch!!! Yes, it was only one bag, yes it was only 47lbs., but the REALLY NEW requirement is dimensions!! That little faux pas was to the tune of 150 bucks (DELTA)–but of course this time they will “let me go”…so once again–hijacked (or attempted), at the ticket counter, as the airbuses scramble to keep your business w/ a published fare, then the add-ons begin at the ticket counter, and don’t stop until you’ve landed. My experience in the last 6 weeks of travel w/ Frontier, American, Air Trans, Delta, Southwest, and US Air, clearly has Southwest remaining at the top w/ the least revision/reduction of services. Just an opinion..thanks…
Joanne — You flew Delta? Did you check the cockpit before taking that leap of faith?
Oh you know us Republicans–God is our co-pilot!!!
Oh you know us Republicans–God is our co-pilot!!!
Yeah, I see the way you people drive. 🙂
Get a new co-pilot.
You know it’s that darn limited applicant pool…