Comment Rescue: The Delaware (Republican’s) Way
Benjamin writes:
You see, this is what is wrong with politics today. If Burris is smart enough to know (that Palin was the wrong choice), why not take advantage of the situation to come here and have a discussion where he agrees with us – from the other side ?
Why immediatly snark against us if he agrees ? I know you guys hate the Delaware Way but that instinctive partisanship really turns people off too.
Here is why…
DelawareLiberal has always been, and will always be, less partisan than DelawarePolitics and that mirrors our party orientations and philosophies.
Democrats are by nature more willing to be critical of Democrats. Republicans can never break with the party line, because given the implications of their policies, rank partianship is the overworked pump keeping the leaky GOP ship afloat.
Over the past eight years there is no doubt this has been a Democratic disadvantage, but we would not be Democrats if we didn’t hold ourselves to a higher standard of honesty and integrity.
I agree that there is a stark difference between the two parties.
As I said last week when Rendell and co were going around complaining about Obama’s campaign, could you imagine Republican governors and pundits go on and on and on to every journalists about what McCain is doing wrong ? No.
That actually annoys me about Democratic elected officials they can’t get in line during a campaign. But I am proud we Democratic voters can discuss these things openly.
The knee-jerk partisanship is not only irritating, it is tremendously counter-productive. They dont’ realize that by pushing the idea Palin is more qualified than Obama, which anybody with any minimum of common sense can tell is not true, they are not only not convincing anybody but they are also destroying their own credibility on other issues.
People can tell when you BS them and they are less likely to believe you the rest of the time
I love laughing. Laughing is fun. Thanks for inviting me to laugh.
Long live the bubble.
“Republicans can never break with the party line,”
Really? I’d say picking Palin was “breaking with the party line.” All the media pundits and GOP insiders hated it. I consider that a good thing.
What’s funny about the “Experience” argument is that you folks are comparing your #1 with McCain’s #2, which only goes to show just how inexperienced Obama really is.
FSP, your comment is nothing but the comment of a troll. The comment adds nothing to the conversation and you say nothing to refute it. As a matter of fact (yes, fact), you comment only proves Jason’s point. Instead, you resort to name calling and hyperbole. I find it ironic (yes, ironic) that you call DL the “bubble”. Obviously, you haven’t been reading your blog lately.
DPN – Quite the ironic statement considering that’s a common practice among quite a few Delaware Liberal contributers. Pot, meet kettle.
I’m a thinkin’ that FSP can’t really comment because he’s not happy with McCain’s VP pick. Just a hunch.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
And Mike W, what have you added to this conversation. Nothing.
First there is your facetious remark: Really? I’d say picking Palin was “breaking with the party line.” That has nothing to do with Jason’s post.
Jason writes: Democrats are by nature more willing to be critical of Democrats. Republicans can never break with the party line, because given the implications of their policies, rank partianship is the overworked pump keeping the leaky GOP ship afloat.
Second, you add the following quip to Comment #3: What’s funny about the “Experience” argument is that you folks are comparing your #1 with McCain’s #2, which only goes to show just how inexperienced Obama really is.
This is not germane to Jason’s post as well.
Thirdly, I call FSP out for not adding to the conversation and then you state in Comment #5: Pot, meet kettle. Once again, unable to stay on topic.
Fourthly (if that is a word), you will post something equally senseless to comments #3 and #5 in response.
I’ve posted three separate Palin posts with three distinct takes on the situation. I know that’s a foreign thought here in The Bubble, but facts can be stubborn things. One of those takes was mine, where I express some unease over the selection, but greater unease over the fact that there is essentially ZERO economic or executive experience on either ticket.
I laugh because the idea that I’m incapable of criticizing my own died a long time ago.
Why does anyone listen to anything Dave Burris has to say about anything? This guy has been totally discredited all over the state.
Maybe like Elvis he got a fake FBI badge and thinks it is real.
Here is one stubborn fact, anything Burris says is a total crock.
The real question is simple, who wants Palin’s phone number more, Bill Lee or Bill Clinton? The call won’t be about policy you can bet.
Everyone welcome Mike Protack, aka Yanking It Hard, to the conversation. Enjoy your last few days, Mike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPz-j3bfq3E
Oh come on Jason. Democrats are only slightly better than republicans both parties have been screwing with the citizens for decades. Everyone knows the republican party is run by lobbyists, but then so is the democrat party.
What do you think that ABC News guy was doing–pointing out all the lobbyists at the convention paying their millions of dollars.
It’s a rotten shame that the american public have been so hoodwinked with the two party sytem, they can’t even concieve of having a third party, one that truly represents them and is willing to fight against both party loyalists and their corporate honchos.
Hey Nemski – Going to chide Pandora and Kate for posting one line responses that have nothing to do with the post?
Didn’t think so.
Hell, this coming from a guy who runs out on debate.
I think the point is… sometimes Dems are their own worst enemies, and we have the losses to prove it.
Read this, and if you still dismiss the pick, then it’s okay, that’s what you’re supposed to do as the loyal opposition.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/the_vp_case_for_gov_sarah_pali.html
I don’t think this guy is a Delaware Republican, and he wrote this in June.
Pandora – I think you could say that of both major parties.
No, Mike, I don’t think you can. You guys fall in line, and I’d be lying if I didn’t admit to being a little bit envious.
Mike, Nemski has a wife, kids, and the start of the English Premier League to deal with (not necessarily in that order).
What’s your excuse?
All I know is that Obama made his first executive decision and picked Joe Biden. McCain made his first executive decision and picked Sarah Who?. Which one reflects that Republican point of view that it doesn’t matter who gets a government pay check? This is more of “heck of a job Brownie” only this time it is the Veep instead of FEMA. FEMA, as we saw, was very serious for the people trying to survive Katrina. What would Veep be like in the event Russia responded to McCain’s sabre rattling and we ended up with Sarah Who? next to the button? These people are just plain scary.
“All I know is that Obama made his first executive decision and picked Joe Biden. McCain made his first executive decision and picked Sarah Who?.”
I guess supporting the surge was not a decision.
It was a decision, John. Not an EXECUTIVE decision.
mike w
your comments dont mean jack shit. In the end you r voting for mccain. So woopdoe doo. U criticized Palin. Here is your gold star murder boy.
By the surge do you mean paying off the Sunni not to fight us (and our undevoted support to the fundamentalists 5th century Shia)?
George Bush in his own idiocy and ignorance of Iraq, didnt know the difference between shia and sunni, and actually placed into power a shia that is more like the Iranians than other muslims.
The Sunnis were the progressive group, the non secularists who ran the government. The Shia had no education and another reason why it is taking 8 years to “train them up”. Bush invaded a soverign nation who did nothing to us, as is now well known to anyone who cares to read the facts. McCain wants a win out of a disaster created by his protege Bush. There is no win here not the kind of win the militarist like McCain and his enablers the Cheney’s, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld’s brought to their regime with war on their minds.
Now McCain is saber rattling with Russia, continuing the failed Bush foreign policy of putting our noses into other soverign nations business and thinking they will submit. We are talking Russia here, they are never going to submit to american hegemony in their area of th world.
If you don’t want to start a new cold war with Russia or a hot one which is being created for McCain as we speak to be a bigger hawk and militarist than Bush, then you don’t give a damn about this country. You don’t give a damn that this Bush regime has destroyed our economy, left us with historical deficits, ruined the military and sent oil prices skyrocketing. McCain picked Falin because she is ignorant of world issues and will sit back and go along with the new world order as was promised by the President of Georgia, another neo con!
Vote McCain and sign your children and grandchildren up for a new war. There is no question that our military is broken to the core and to revive it a “draft” will be instituted immediately.
We need diplomacy, and lots of it. No saber rattling and war mongering.
“I guess supporting the surge was not a decision.”
That’s like saying: “Hey, good job gluing back together that Ming vase you broke”.
Laughable.
“It was a decision, John. Not an EXECUTIVE decision.”
I understand where you’re coming from as it pertains to their current office holder status.
However, I was putting it in the context of being behind it or not if they were the President.
Note: For what it’s worth, I wasn’t in support of it as an individual back then, but I now see that I was clearly wrong. Unlike Obama and McCain though I did not get briefed and thus had limited information. It’s Obama’s non-recognition to its success that is troublesome.
And it could be said that your eagerness to accept it as an absolute, in perpetuity, success is troublesome too, John.
You can play it both ways…
Sorry, I had to pick myself up off the floor from laughing so hard.
“DelawareLiberal has always been, and will always be, less partisan than DelawarePolitics and that mirrors our party orientations and philosophies.”
God forbid you don’t drink the Markell koolaid here at Delaware Liberal. I’ve been a long time reader, and I can’t remember one time that anyone here has been circumspect about Markell’s policy initiatives.
Rebecca #20,
“This is more of “heck of a job Brownie” only this time it is the Veep instead of FEMA. FEMA, as we saw, was very serious for the people trying to survive Katrina. ”
Hey, Nagin got it this time, 3 years too late.
[NEW ORLEANS — With the storm Gustav newly elevated to hurricane status as it passes through the Caribbean and aims at the Gulf Coast, Mayor C. Ray Nagin said on Friday that a mandatory evacuation order was possible for Sunday.
At that point, residents would be told, though not physically forced, to leave New Orleans, either in their own vehicles or on city-chartered buses and trains. On Saturday, officials here will start helping citizens without cars leave for shelters in northern Louisiana in gyms, churches and civic centers. ]
DelawareLiberal has always been, and will always be, less partisan???????
Thanks, I needed a good laugh. The sad thing is, you folks probably believe it’s true…
Insorfar as there are always WAY MORE scathing attacks on Democrats here than there are Republicans at FSP, then, yes, I do believe Jason’s very general assessment.
God forbid you don’t drink the Markell koolaid here at Delaware Liberal. I’ve been a long time reader, and I can’t remember one time that anyone here has been circumspect about Markell’s policy initiatives.
Kate hasn’t been reading all that long I guess — I certainly wrote a number of questions regarding Markell’s plan for healthcare after the debate.
“Kate hasn’t been reading all that long I guess — I certainly wrote a number of questions regarding Markell’s plan for healthcare after the debate.”
Okay, I went back and re-read your story about the gubernatorial debate on healthcare, and re-read your questions about Markell’s healthcare plans. But I sense that you desperately want to side with Markell over Carney, calling Carney’s plan murky.
But you sense?
I’ve been right here all along, I occasionally write on the front page, my email shows up here and you can’t just ask me what I think if what I’ve written isn’t clear to you?
You are the only one who has questioned Markell’s initiatives.
Here’s a good example of class from McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4KIvRTg6KQ&eurl
Kate, I’ve been very clear – and have written – that I like both Carney and Markell. I have also clearly stated my undecided status. I don’t feel as if I’ve been drinking the kool-aid.
To FSP, do you hear voices in your head all the time? Delacare, our health care plan, will allow you to get the mental health assistance you need.
Maybe you can’t read but I am on the ballot this fall and we are poised to beat the unknown and unseen candidate.
I do agree that I can’t figure out who takes you seriously on any political issues.
Did you solve the Post Office hijinks with your misrably failed state senate campaign. I thought with your FBI connections you might have solved it on your own.
Thanks, Dave you are always good for some humor but in the emd I feel sorry for you.
“To FSP, do you hear voices in your head all the time? Delacare, our health care plan, will allow you to get the mental health assistance you need.”
Oh God this just keeps getting better…
#16 Get A Grip:
(sic)…..she’s staunchly pro-life. Having Sarah Palin on the ticket could help Sen. McCain appeal to these disgruntled Democrats.
Not too many Hill supporters are going to let go of abortion rights for Mrs. Palin.
Not only that,your girl, Palin, was successful in having the polar bear removed from the endangered species list……that’s akin to killing Bambi’s parents.
Mike Protack talking about someone else’s mental health? And credibility? That’s rich.
Notice how he didn’t even deny posting as “Yanking it Hard.” Very gubernatorial, Fraud.
Enjoy your final few days before Bill Lee and Bill Chandler kick your sorry ass to the curb.
And I’m still waiting for the lawsuit you promised me. Not receiving papers from you makes me think that you agree with everything in the pink postcard post, which I can’t wait to re-post on September 7th.
Tell you what, Mike. I’ll give you my vote if FSP reports that you actually followed through and sued him.
Barrel that dumbass mustache over to your lawyer’s and draw up the papers, and you’ve got a vote.
Otherwise, go fly for Spanair.
Don`t blame the economy on bush you idiot,blame the stupid democrats that took over the congress in 2006.They are the ones that just sat on their asses and destroyed our economy so that suckers like you would believe it was Bush,and knowing in 2 years all you suckers would believe this shit and vote for any democrat even a Kenya born,crackhead,fag,with no religion and a big mouth that says nothing but CHANGE. At least when martin luther king had a dream, it ment something.Mr. O-BOMB-US is having a dream too,but it might end up your biggest nightmare.
Gaetano, you are an idiot if you think that Democrats are to blame. Luckily your stupidity will be rewarded with a severe ass-beating in November.