He has done a lot! He was a “community organizer” … um, er, ok. Well – he was in the senate for a while and led the charge on… er, um, hmm. Well! He is eloquent! So there. (more crickets chirping).
Allow me, I am amused by trolls.
Adds health insurance for 20,000 children, Welfare reform,
Earned income tax credit, increased minimum wage ($5.15 to
$6.50). Death penalty reform making interrogations be video
taped passed Senate 58-0, signed to law by governor who first
opposed Obama’s bill. Sponsored bill probing police profiling.
Obama opposed Iraq war publically, long before the invasion.
Accurately depicted it as undetermined length, undetermined
cost, undetermined objective, resulting as civil war. Same
assessment Bush Sr. & Dick Cheney both gave in early 90’s.
Federal senate :
Worked with republican senator Lugar to expand and author
program to locate & dismantle stray Russian WMD’s left over
from the cold war after the disbanding of the USSR.
Jan. 2007, major ethics/lobbying reform bill, w/ Russ Feingold
insisted tougher measures banning lobbyist gifts/ meals/ jets,
disclosure of earmark & contribution bundling to candidates or
committees; restricts retiring Congress from going into lobbying
Toured Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, Palestinian territories, he told
Palestinian Authority Abbas that US would never recognize
Hamas leaders until they renounced mission to attack Israel.
In Africa, publicly took AIDS test as example of responsibility
Obama cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John
McCain. Passed 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who
have been here 5+ years only allowed to stay and apply for
citizenship, if pay back taxes, learn English and no criminal
record. 2 million undocumented persons who have been in the
United States for less than two years would be ordered home.
Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3% / year)
You can oppose his positions all you want but you’re disingenuous stating he has no accomplishments.
this is cute: “In Africa, publicly took AIDS test as example of responsibility” WOW! Courageous! Listen – it’s fine to idolize Obama – it’s kind of cute really, like teenage girls w/ the Beatles – but serioulsy, this man has been running for office his whole life, has written 2 (2!) biographies by age 47, and as far as successful record – you can attach his name to as many of those things as you like, he led none of them. Success-by-association? Um, sure. How about taking 3 days to “figure out” what to say about Georgia and Russia? “Let’s turn it to the UN” he says! HA! What a joker! This guy simply knows nothing – hence the Biden pick (great pick – Biden’s been almost entirely wrong on every major foreign policy decision in the past 30 yrs). As chairman of the subcommittee on Senate Foreign Relations responsible for NATO and Europe, Obama should have tackled the issue of Afghanistan, making leadership decisions toward the administration to take on the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Of course, that would have involved holding hearings, questioning administration witnesses, and taking a position and offering alternatives. That is what we expect that from senators in a democracy. It is called oversight. Not Obama – he’s too busy running for president: When questioned about his failure during the Dem debates, he replied, “Well, first of all…I became chairman of this committee at the beginning of this campaign, at the beginning of 2007. So it is true that we haven’t had oversight hearings on Afghanistan.” To date, his subcommittee has held no policy hearings at all — none. He has since had one of the worst attendance records in the Senate. Sen. Clinton’s record interestingly in the Senate during the same time period far outproduces his. But she’s not a rock star… I forgot. Again – kinda cute.
That is some hard hitting stuff. Any senator or congressman in the last 25 years could put the same credentials in their talking points to their dolts as well. Kudos for trying but. . .
From this point forward I am:
Opposing the Iraq war.
Calling for increased fuel efficiency.
If the taxpayers will foot the bill I will fly to Africa and take AIDS tests.
I will write a letter telling Abbas we will not recognize Hamas.
If elected to the Senate I can do everything else.
1980 – 1984
Obama: B.A. in political science with a specialization in international relations from Columbia University.
Palin: Wasilla High School, captain of the state-champion basketball team. Miss Wasilla, runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, also Miss Congeniality, although that is now disputed.
Him: Ivy League degree.
Her: tiara.
1985 – 1990
Obama: moved to Chicago; became a community organizer as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization on Chicago’s far South Side. During his three years as the DCP’s director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants’ rights organization.
Moved to Boston to attend Harvard Law School. Selected as an editor and then elected president of the Harvard Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review’s staff of 80 editors.
Palin: Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, with a minor in political science from the University of Idaho. Brief stint as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations; left to join her husband in commercial fishing.
Him: sterling legal education.
Her: sportscaster.
1991 – 1995
Obama: graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School; received contract and advance to write a book (“Dreams from my Father”) as well as a fellowship at the University of Chicago Law School. Directed the Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain’s Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of “40 under Forty” powers to be. Appointed as a Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Active in several community organizations, usually as a board member.
Palin: member of the Alasaka Independence Party which advocates “Alaska First”. Elected to Wasilla city council.
Him: Expert on our nation’s fundamental legal principles.
Her: plotted to leave the Union; thinks Pledge of Allegiance was written by our founding fathers, doesn’t know what a Vice President does.
1996 – 2000
Obama: promoted to Senior Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School. Elected to the Illinois Senate. Sponsored more than 800 bills. In 2000, lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.
Palin: elected as mayor of Wasilla (population 5,470), defeating the incumbent by a total of 616 votes to 413. Town budget, $8 million (3 millionths of the Federal budget), approximately 100 employees. Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. Fired the Wasilla police chief, citing a failure to support her administration. (He then sued Palin on the grounds that he was fired because he supported the campaign of Palin’s opponent, but his suit was dismissed when the judge ruled that Palin had the right under state law to fire city employees, even for political reasons.) Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. Wasilla had zero debt when she entered office but she left it with indebtedness of over $22 million, including $15 million-plus for construction of a hockey center which was built on a piece of property that the city didn’t even have clear title to, a matter that is still in litigation. Attempted to ban books from the city library.
Him: sponsored 800 bills.
Her: swayed 616 voters.
2001 – 2004
Obama: reelected in 2002 and became chairman of the Illinois Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee.
Publicly spoke out against the invasion of Iraq BEFORE the congressional authorization in 2002, and then again before the actual invasion in 2003.
Wrote and delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
November 2004: elected to the US Senate, receiving over 3.5 million votes, more than 70% of total.
Palin: elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. Unsuccessful bid for lieutenant governor, coming in second in a five-way race in the Republican primary, receiving 19,000 votes. Appointed to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, served as chairman from 2003 to 2004 and also served as Ethics Supervisor. Resigned in protest over the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members. Exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, for doing party work on public time and working closely with a company he was supposed to be regulating. Director of Ted Stevens’ 527 group.
Him: demonstrated the wisdom to oppose the Iraq folly before it even began.
Her: hasn’t really though much about Iraq – despite the fact that 17 Alaskans have died there
2005 to present
Obama: Sworn in as the fifth-ever African-American U.S. senator. Worked with Republican Senator Lugar to author and implement a program to locate and dismantle stray Russian WMD’s. Designated by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the party’s point man on ethics. Worked with Russ Feingold to pass a major ethics/lobbying reform bill. Cosponsored, with John McCain, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3 percent every year for 15 years). Assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Veterans’ Affairs, and Homeland Security. Chairman of the Senate’s subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. Waged a tremendous battle to become the Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month.
Palin: 2005: board member, Valley Hospital Association, which runs the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50.
Auctioned off the Governor’s jet on eBay. Took on fellow-Republican Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska. Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil and gas development in the bears’ habitat. Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. Supported abstinence-only education.Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska’s Public Safety Commissioner. Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard, but has played no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. (The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.)
Obtained her first passport in 2007 to perform visits to the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait and Germany. (Foreign experience so limited that a stopover in Ireland listed on her resume.)
Him: Impressive figure on the national stage who knows how Congress works and is engaged with foreign policy issues.
Her: small state governor for 21 months; “next to Russia”, but that is just 1 of the 190 countries in the world she has never been to.
It IS interesting. They forget it is a “presidential election” as Lieberman said last night in an interview when asked to comment. People are voting for McCain or Obama. And if we are serious here about attempting to argue that Obama’s record of jumping on someone else’s train on the above legislation (again – where has he LED cut&paste delawaredem??), and citing things like: “Waged a tremendous battle to become the Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month” then there is no hope of talking sense. None. Done. Over.
Yeah, this is the 1st time I’ve ever heard a politician claim that leading his campaign staff while running for President counts as experience that qualifies him to BE President.
And really, the fact that there’s even a question of who’s more experienced, the R’s VP or the D’s Candidate, is a reflection on just how inexperienced Obama really is. To be honest, Palin doesn’t have much experience, which makes Obama’s lack of experience that much more of a glaring liability for him.
Mike W: Actually, running a nationwide campaign for the top job in the free world is a qualification. After all, if almost everyone could do it, we’d have many more candidates than two. I’m sure there are plenty of folks who’d love to be President.
After all, Rudy ‘911’ Giuliani spent over $50M to earn one GOP delegate.
You guys don’t get it. The Dems voted for Obama. We are happy with our candidate and the judgement he applied when choosing his VP.
Can you guys say the same?
Oh, and I think you’re dreaming if you think voters won’t be considering the VPs this year. Palin guarantees that the VP choices – and the reasons they were selected – will be in play.
And really, the fact that there’s even a question of who’s more experienced, the R’s VP or the D’s Candidate, is a reflection on just how inexperienced Obama really is.
Give the man a cookie!
Ever since Palin was announced, I have been completely flummoxed at how the Democrats and liberals alike are tripping over themselves comparing their Presidential candidate to the Republican’s Vice-Presidential candidate. The very fact that they consider the two comparable should be concerning to them, and yet they just keep on doing it… Methinks they dost protest too much?
Of course the VP pick matters, nobody is arguing otherwise. The point here is simply that when folks vote, they’re voting for the top of the ticket. Both parties know that. The efforts to diminish Palin’s record – for better or worse – are what one finds amusing here, simply because she is a VP nom. The attempt is to create what strategists call “noise” – to drown out the issue of McCain v. Obama… now why would they want to do that?? Hmm.
Interesting that only CNN and Fox aired the entirety of Fred Thompson’s speech on McCain last night, w/ NBC showing a portion, and the other major networks interviewing unimportant no-name delgates or talking amongst their brilliant selves during the speech last night. Curious. Maybe because Thompson’s entire speech was dedicated to the history of McCain as war vet – an appeal to many voters that is frighteningly too strong. Of all peeps, Olberman agrees w/ me: he acknowledged the tremendous power of that speech. Hmm.
“Gun nuts represent such a small minority. Besides, who listens to them?”
Actually Jade, us “gun nuts” have far more influence and are far more numerous than ardent anti’s like yourself. The Brady Campaign is the biggest anti-gun group in the country and their membership (and individual contributions) aren’t even a blip on the radar screen compared to the NRA and it’s 4 million + members.
So who exactly is the “small minority?” Anti-gun groups wouldn’t even exist if they relied on grassroots funding, they’re simply propped up by The Joyce Foundation (which Obama served on the Board of)
If you go watch the full speech – you’ll see what was missed by ms….
Jade, I apologize if I seemed to imply a “conspiracy” – not at all. A conspiracy theory would require very strange attempts at associating disparate pieces of information into a seeming-whole which posits a viewpoint considered by most to be absurd. For example, the notion that the NRA somehow whacked Dem chairman for Arkansas, Bill Gwatney! Hmm. (Jade’s theory for those who aren’t down w/ his blog!)
Actions speak louder than words, Pandora. Saying you do something is one thing, but seeing something else, first-hand, on repeated sinister-leaning weblogs… yeah, that says something.
If you tell me “I support XXXX” but your actions, votes, proposed bills, and previous statements ALL say otherwise then I’ll base my opinion on those things rather than your words.
Obama has never supported the 2nd Amendment in any form other than lip service (now that he’s running for President) which is why I call bullshit.
No, thats a senator who has done nothing.
Ah Bookem, such an ignorant stupid ass you are.
Well DD it IS true. What are his accomplishments?
He has none.
(Crickets Chirping)
What was it Hillary said? “A speech in 2002”?
Oh, yeah, and running for President… which, apparently, makes him qualified to be President.
*snickers*
He has done a lot! He was a “community organizer” … um, er, ok. Well – he was in the senate for a while and led the charge on… er, um, hmm. Well! He is eloquent! So there. (more crickets chirping).
We are still waiting delawaredem…
Allow me, I am amused by trolls.
Adds health insurance for 20,000 children, Welfare reform,
Earned income tax credit, increased minimum wage ($5.15 to
$6.50). Death penalty reform making interrogations be video
taped passed Senate 58-0, signed to law by governor who first
opposed Obama’s bill. Sponsored bill probing police profiling.
Obama opposed Iraq war publically, long before the invasion.
Accurately depicted it as undetermined length, undetermined
cost, undetermined objective, resulting as civil war. Same
assessment Bush Sr. & Dick Cheney both gave in early 90’s.
Federal senate :
Worked with republican senator Lugar to expand and author
program to locate & dismantle stray Russian WMD’s left over
from the cold war after the disbanding of the USSR.
Jan. 2007, major ethics/lobbying reform bill, w/ Russ Feingold
insisted tougher measures banning lobbyist gifts/ meals/ jets,
disclosure of earmark & contribution bundling to candidates or
committees; restricts retiring Congress from going into lobbying
Toured Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, Palestinian territories, he told
Palestinian Authority Abbas that US would never recognize
Hamas leaders until they renounced mission to attack Israel.
In Africa, publicly took AIDS test as example of responsibility
Obama cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John
McCain. Passed 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who
have been here 5+ years only allowed to stay and apply for
citizenship, if pay back taxes, learn English and no criminal
record. 2 million undocumented persons who have been in the
United States for less than two years would be ordered home.
Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3% / year)
You can oppose his positions all you want but you’re disingenuous stating he has no accomplishments.
Of course, McCain *did* support Bush Jr. 95% of the time. We all know how well that turned out.
this is cute: “In Africa, publicly took AIDS test as example of responsibility” WOW! Courageous! Listen – it’s fine to idolize Obama – it’s kind of cute really, like teenage girls w/ the Beatles – but serioulsy, this man has been running for office his whole life, has written 2 (2!) biographies by age 47, and as far as successful record – you can attach his name to as many of those things as you like, he led none of them. Success-by-association? Um, sure. How about taking 3 days to “figure out” what to say about Georgia and Russia? “Let’s turn it to the UN” he says! HA! What a joker! This guy simply knows nothing – hence the Biden pick (great pick – Biden’s been almost entirely wrong on every major foreign policy decision in the past 30 yrs). As chairman of the subcommittee on Senate Foreign Relations responsible for NATO and Europe, Obama should have tackled the issue of Afghanistan, making leadership decisions toward the administration to take on the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Of course, that would have involved holding hearings, questioning administration witnesses, and taking a position and offering alternatives. That is what we expect that from senators in a democracy. It is called oversight. Not Obama – he’s too busy running for president: When questioned about his failure during the Dem debates, he replied, “Well, first of all…I became chairman of this committee at the beginning of this campaign, at the beginning of 2007. So it is true that we haven’t had oversight hearings on Afghanistan.” To date, his subcommittee has held no policy hearings at all — none. He has since had one of the worst attendance records in the Senate. Sen. Clinton’s record interestingly in the Senate during the same time period far outproduces his. But she’s not a rock star… I forgot. Again – kinda cute.
That is some hard hitting stuff. Any senator or congressman in the last 25 years could put the same credentials in their talking points to their dolts as well. Kudos for trying but. . .
From this point forward I am:
Opposing the Iraq war.
Calling for increased fuel efficiency.
If the taxpayers will foot the bill I will fly to Africa and take AIDS tests.
I will write a letter telling Abbas we will not recognize Hamas.
If elected to the Senate I can do everything else.
Guess I am only 50% qualified to be president.
1980 – 1984
Obama: B.A. in political science with a specialization in international relations from Columbia University.
Palin: Wasilla High School, captain of the state-champion basketball team. Miss Wasilla, runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, also Miss Congeniality, although that is now disputed.
Him: Ivy League degree.
Her: tiara.
1985 – 1990
Obama: moved to Chicago; became a community organizer as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization on Chicago’s far South Side. During his three years as the DCP’s director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants’ rights organization.
Moved to Boston to attend Harvard Law School. Selected as an editor and then elected president of the Harvard Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review’s staff of 80 editors.
Palin: Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, with a minor in political science from the University of Idaho. Brief stint as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations; left to join her husband in commercial fishing.
Him: sterling legal education.
Her: sportscaster.
1991 – 1995
Obama: graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School; received contract and advance to write a book (“Dreams from my Father”) as well as a fellowship at the University of Chicago Law School. Directed the Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain’s Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of “40 under Forty” powers to be. Appointed as a Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Active in several community organizations, usually as a board member.
Palin: member of the Alasaka Independence Party which advocates “Alaska First”. Elected to Wasilla city council.
Him: Expert on our nation’s fundamental legal principles.
Her: plotted to leave the Union; thinks Pledge of Allegiance was written by our founding fathers, doesn’t know what a Vice President does.
1996 – 2000
Obama: promoted to Senior Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School. Elected to the Illinois Senate. Sponsored more than 800 bills. In 2000, lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.
Palin: elected as mayor of Wasilla (population 5,470), defeating the incumbent by a total of 616 votes to 413. Town budget, $8 million (3 millionths of the Federal budget), approximately 100 employees. Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. Fired the Wasilla police chief, citing a failure to support her administration. (He then sued Palin on the grounds that he was fired because he supported the campaign of Palin’s opponent, but his suit was dismissed when the judge ruled that Palin had the right under state law to fire city employees, even for political reasons.) Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. Wasilla had zero debt when she entered office but she left it with indebtedness of over $22 million, including $15 million-plus for construction of a hockey center which was built on a piece of property that the city didn’t even have clear title to, a matter that is still in litigation. Attempted to ban books from the city library.
Him: sponsored 800 bills.
Her: swayed 616 voters.
2001 – 2004
Obama: reelected in 2002 and became chairman of the Illinois Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee.
Publicly spoke out against the invasion of Iraq BEFORE the congressional authorization in 2002, and then again before the actual invasion in 2003.
Wrote and delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
November 2004: elected to the US Senate, receiving over 3.5 million votes, more than 70% of total.
Palin: elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. Unsuccessful bid for lieutenant governor, coming in second in a five-way race in the Republican primary, receiving 19,000 votes. Appointed to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, served as chairman from 2003 to 2004 and also served as Ethics Supervisor. Resigned in protest over the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members. Exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, for doing party work on public time and working closely with a company he was supposed to be regulating. Director of Ted Stevens’ 527 group.
Him: demonstrated the wisdom to oppose the Iraq folly before it even began.
Her: hasn’t really though much about Iraq – despite the fact that 17 Alaskans have died there
2005 to present
Obama: Sworn in as the fifth-ever African-American U.S. senator. Worked with Republican Senator Lugar to author and implement a program to locate and dismantle stray Russian WMD’s. Designated by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the party’s point man on ethics. Worked with Russ Feingold to pass a major ethics/lobbying reform bill. Cosponsored, with John McCain, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3 percent every year for 15 years). Assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Veterans’ Affairs, and Homeland Security. Chairman of the Senate’s subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. Waged a tremendous battle to become the Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month.
Palin: 2005: board member, Valley Hospital Association, which runs the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50.
Auctioned off the Governor’s jet on eBay. Took on fellow-Republican Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska. Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil and gas development in the bears’ habitat. Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. Supported abstinence-only education.Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska’s Public Safety Commissioner. Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard, but has played no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. (The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.)
Obtained her first passport in 2007 to perform visits to the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait and Germany. (Foreign experience so limited that a stopover in Ireland listed on her resume.)
Him: Impressive figure on the national stage who knows how Congress works and is engaged with foreign policy issues.
Her: small state governor for 21 months; “next to Russia”, but that is just 1 of the 190 countries in the world she has never been to.
Impressive cut and paste you found there.
Isn’t it interesting the demobrats feel the need to compare their presidential candidate to the r’s vice-presidential candidate?
It IS interesting. They forget it is a “presidential election” as Lieberman said last night in an interview when asked to comment. People are voting for McCain or Obama. And if we are serious here about attempting to argue that Obama’s record of jumping on someone else’s train on the above legislation (again – where has he LED cut&paste delawaredem??), and citing things like: “Waged a tremendous battle to become the Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month” then there is no hope of talking sense. None. Done. Over.
Yeah, this is the 1st time I’ve ever heard a politician claim that leading his campaign staff while running for President counts as experience that qualifies him to BE President.
And really, the fact that there’s even a question of who’s more experienced, the R’s VP or the D’s Candidate, is a reflection on just how inexperienced Obama really is. To be honest, Palin doesn’t have much experience, which makes Obama’s lack of experience that much more of a glaring liability for him.
Mike W: Actually, running a nationwide campaign for the top job in the free world is a qualification. After all, if almost everyone could do it, we’d have many more candidates than two. I’m sure there are plenty of folks who’d love to be President.
After all, Rudy ‘911’ Giuliani spent over $50M to earn one GOP delegate.
You guys don’t get it. The Dems voted for Obama. We are happy with our candidate and the judgement he applied when choosing his VP.
Can you guys say the same?
Oh, and I think you’re dreaming if you think voters won’t be considering the VPs this year. Palin guarantees that the VP choices – and the reasons they were selected – will be in play.
“Palin guarantees that the VP choices – and the reasons they were selected – will be in play.”
As does Biden. He’s one of those politicians whom I totally despise. There are many who feel the same contempt towards Senator Biden.
As does Biden. He’s one of those politicians whom I totally despise. There are many who feel the same contempt towards Senator Biden.
Yeah, we know, gun nuts. 🙂
Gun nuts represent such a small minority. Besides, who listens to them?
Give the man a cookie!
Ever since Palin was announced, I have been completely flummoxed at how the Democrats and liberals alike are tripping over themselves comparing their Presidential candidate to the Republican’s Vice-Presidential candidate. The very fact that they consider the two comparable should be concerning to them, and yet they just keep on doing it… Methinks they dost protest too much?
Nah… it’s just the easiest question you guys keep asking.
Lest you forget… Experience is the main thing your guy is running on. It’s your issue, not ours. We focus on judgement.
Of course the VP pick matters, nobody is arguing otherwise. The point here is simply that when folks vote, they’re voting for the top of the ticket. Both parties know that. The efforts to diminish Palin’s record – for better or worse – are what one finds amusing here, simply because she is a VP nom. The attempt is to create what strategists call “noise” – to drown out the issue of McCain v. Obama… now why would they want to do that?? Hmm.
Interesting that only CNN and Fox aired the entirety of Fred Thompson’s speech on McCain last night, w/ NBC showing a portion, and the other major networks interviewing unimportant no-name delgates or talking amongst their brilliant selves during the speech last night. Curious. Maybe because Thompson’s entire speech was dedicated to the history of McCain as war vet – an appeal to many voters that is frighteningly too strong. Of all peeps, Olberman agrees w/ me: he acknowledged the tremendous power of that speech. Hmm.
You’ve got us, Joe. It’s all a conspiracy.
Linoge, you are permanently flummoxed by life.
I watched it on MSNBC. What did they cut?
“Gun nuts represent such a small minority. Besides, who listens to them?”
Actually Jade, us “gun nuts” have far more influence and are far more numerous than ardent anti’s like yourself. The Brady Campaign is the biggest anti-gun group in the country and their membership (and individual contributions) aren’t even a blip on the radar screen compared to the NRA and it’s 4 million + members.
So who exactly is the “small minority?” Anti-gun groups wouldn’t even exist if they relied on grassroots funding, they’re simply propped up by The Joyce Foundation (which Obama served on the Board of)
If you go watch the full speech – you’ll see what was missed by ms….
Jade, I apologize if I seemed to imply a “conspiracy” – not at all. A conspiracy theory would require very strange attempts at associating disparate pieces of information into a seeming-whole which posits a viewpoint considered by most to be absurd. For example, the notion that the NRA somehow whacked Dem chairman for Arkansas, Bill Gwatney! Hmm. (Jade’s theory for those who aren’t down w/ his blog!)
Actions speak louder than words, Pandora. Saying you do something is one thing, but seeing something else, first-hand, on repeated sinister-leaning weblogs… yeah, that says something.
“Actions speak louder than words, Pandora.”
Which is exactly why when Obama claims to support the 2nd Amendment I call bullshit.
Sorry, I’m not getting the parroting of “actions speak louder than words” meme you guys are citing. Could you explain?
Ahh, Joe. Unfortunately, for you, my blog correctly claimed Gwatney’s killer was an NRA member. He was and I presented the proof.
Which is exactly why when Obama claims to support the 2nd Amendment I call bullshit.
Your view of the 2A is warped–as is the case with most gun fetishists.
If you tell me “I support XXXX” but your actions, votes, proposed bills, and previous statements ALL say otherwise then I’ll base my opinion on those things rather than your words.
Obama has never supported the 2nd Amendment in any form other than lip service (now that he’s running for President) which is why I call bullshit.
Forget Obama, forget McCain – this is the man: Old, Grizzled Third-Party Candidate May Steal Support From McCain
THIS is a president… a “true beltway outsider!”