Feroce is Locked and Loaded
One of my favorite DP wingnuts writes:
Something’s not right.
We’re going to have to listen to Blagojevich/Obama nonsense for the next four years. God, if someone commits suicide in a park . . . .
Tags: Blogosphere, Delaware, Radical Right
LOL. The reason to move now rather than wait until Blago made the appointment and accepted whatever gift he sought is to prevent it. Duh. They already had enough evidence via the wiretaps re the conspiracy to put Blago and Harris in jail. Why wait?
And if there really was something not right (and I am presuming Feroce is thinking that Obama was playing ball, or whatever), wouldn’t those conversations be on tape and would Fitzgerald go out of his way to exonerate Obama and Jarrett if he knew different.
I think Fitzgerald has proven his integrity in every prosecution he has brought. He is not partisan, but he is a pitbull. He has gone up against the Gambinos, Gov. Ryan, the Dark Lord Darth Cheney and his underlings Rove and Libby, and now Blago. If there was something there, Fitzgerald would have waited to snag Obama and Jarrett. Or if he had something right now on Obama, he would had said so.
The only thing that bothers me about this is Obama’s statement that he hadn’t talked to Blago. There’s no freakin’ way he gives up his Senate seat and doesn’t weigh in.
I’m not accusing him of wrongdoing, but that statement just doesn’t sit with me.
There does seem to be a contradiction there, as Axelrod did say he (Obama) had spoken to the Governor. Perhaps Obama did not speak to Blago directly, rather underlings made overtures re Candidate 1 (Jarrett), and that was what Axelrod meant, or perhaps Axelrod misspoke.
But that contradiction or speaking or not speaking to Blago directly is relatively minor in the grand scheme of this scandal.
Fitzgerald basically cleared Obama in his statement. I think it is quite believable that Obama wasn’t talking to Blago. All reports are that Blago and Obama weren’t close at all and I imagine Obama had his deputies handling his contacts. I don’t think he wanted to have anything to do with Blago.
DD,
Axelrod said he misspoke. I think Emmanuel probably handled this contact (Emmanuel took the House seat that Blago vacated). Once Emmanuel and Jarrett learned what Blago was doing, they pulled the plug.
Well, then that explains it. Not that it will stop Feroce or others from speculating.
I do have to congratulate Burris for his fairmindedness here. It is refreshing.
DD,
huh?
Barry has lots of splainin’ to do, right Dave? Is he even a US citizen? We don’t know for sure. Do we?
I still can’t imagine that Obama had no conversation with Blago at all. Put yourself in his shoes. For crying out loud, Biden managed 100% of his replacement process.
That’s all.
If they already had a bad relationship (and it sounds like they weren’t at all) perhaps he knew that talking to Blago was useless. I believe that Obama’s people (Emmanuel) talked to Blago’s people for sure. We know that’s true. The process broke off really early we know because of Fitzgerald’s statement and from the very early withdrawal of Jarrett.
Burris,
I understand. But the situations in DE with Biden and Minner and IL with Obama and Blago are quite different.
If Blago was Minner, he would have appointed Jarrett with no strings attached. But, being in Illinois and Chicago politics, Obama knew to stay far away from Blago. So, knowing Obama and his cautiousness, it does make sense he wouldn’t call him. You are looking at Obama and thinking he would react and act like Biden.
Is it true that Blago wasn’t invited to speak at the convention and that he wasn’t invited on stage at Grant Park on election night? Heard something like this tonight on Hardball (?).
The convention part is true. Don’t know about Grant Park.
I don’t think Obama talked to Blagojevich, and here’s my logic behind it:
Obama is a lawyer and he used to teach Constitutional law. He knows the consequences of lying are very severe, so I doubt he would do it. He’s not an idiot, he knows the tapes will come out eventually. Plus, I don’t think he really has a motive – there would be nothing untoward about Obama discussing the Senate seat with Blagojevich, in fact, it would be expected. Why else would he say he hadn’t spoken to Blago if he in fact had done so? It doesn’t make sense – lots of risk for no reward. Obama by all accounts is very smart and disciplined. It just doesn’t make sense that he would lie about something not really important (whether he had spoken to Blagojevich or not). I certainly believe that Emmanuel and Blagojevich had discussions.
Can anyone tell that I’m slightly obsessed with this story?
DD you were suckered in my man. There is no way Burris is not going to go full wingnut on this.
As the wingnuts go, so does Hube. We’re in for a bumpy ride.
Well Jason, we got Burris saying here in print that all that concerns him about this scandal re Obama is Obama’s statement that he did not talk to Blago. If Burris goes off on anything else, we got him.
Hube is an ass. His headline to that story is a quote that never escaped Obama’s lips, yet Hube implies that it did.
I’m a little confused how Obama was the interpreted connection, since I never mentioned that.
I felt Jesse Jackson Jr or others that were aggressively seeking the position were potentially the issue.
Regardless, I feel quite comfortable that something is not right and will sit back and watch it play out.
As far as Obama not talking about who his successor is, are you serious that you don’t believe it was discussed?
You are joking right?
Well, I know that fact that Obama is a moulie is not the thing that is “not right.”
It couldn’t be that.
Moulie?
JF, u didn’t mention anyone’s name. And the fact that u are surprised we thought u were implying Obama means u r either lying or stupid.
Come on Jason, you’re better than that.
I think I made a legitimate point.
No you didn’t.
Nemski,
I am shocked that you are so naive. Public corruption is not a nuance in need of your rescue.
It will play out accordingly , you can sugar coat it all you want, the public will not be duped.
That’s cool Jason, I think I did.
the public will not be duped.
It is a Pity that your fine sense for these things was more in tune during the Bush years.
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“It is a Pity that your fine sense for these things was more in tune during the Bush years. ”
Jason,
Pres Bush disappointed many of us, don’t think for a moment we don’t regret every minute of it.
That has nothing to do with rooting out public corruption anytime you run into it. Nobody should get a free pass.
Geez….this really comes as a surprise.
Sources Say Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is ‘Senate Candidate #5’
Feds Plan to Interview Chicago Congressman as Part of Blagojevich Probe
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/ConductUnbecoming/Story?id=6431739&page=1
Boy we really were wackos for thinking this would be messy….
“Chicago Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) is the anonymous “Senate Candidate #5″ whose emissaries Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich reportedly claimed offered up to a million dollars to name him to the U.S. Senate, federal law enforcement sources tell ABC News. ”
See, when you decide to jump the gun all you have is what the Governor “said” was this or that.
Therefore if you’re asking a jury to believe everything he said, then you have to believe him when he stated he was offered a million dollars from Jr’s emissaries.
However, we will never know for sure, because they stopped the investigation. Isn’t that sweet