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Why Delaware Liberal is #1 and #2 and #3 and without a peer

Because, you see we have a team of top notch ball busters that crack and slam down on the stupidity that often rains in over hear from FSP.  Especially from the top talking point thrower, their reader and chief Burris.

X-stryker put up this post yesterday GOP Stimulus Myths Exposed So, if you didn’t get a chance to read an ass handing smack down on Dave by X-stryker, please do so here:

Here was Dave nonsensical BS:

10 FSP // Feb 17, 2009 at 6:47 pm

I’ll give Zandi one thing — he’s a hell of a lot better source than Media Matters.

The CBO was asked to estimate the cost of the bill if the 20 most prominent provisions were extended permanently. That’s where the 3 trillion came from.

ACORN has subsidiaries and partners (i.e. noprofits with shared administrators and office space) who will get that money. Count on it.

The field mouse thing was stupid, but its habitat will receive money.

The cost per job? I’d love to see the cost per “permanent” job, taking out all the temporary construction and IT positions. I’ll bet it’s more than 220K per.

Also, no one seems to want to take into account the huge administrative expense burden this bill will put on employers.

Hope it works, because y’all have really screwed the pooch if it doesn’t.

Also, Zandi’s analysis seems to say that giving money to poor people is better for the economy than giving money to middle-class people. Any idea why?

And here was the rebuttal. I’ll admit, it takes a lot of writing to refute this bullshit, but X handles it well.
smackity, smackity in the moring. I love it.

14 xstryker // Feb 17, 2009 at 7:26 pm

Dave, you’re stupid and you didn’t read the links. All the points I cover below are in the articles I linked to, you talking-point spewing idiot.

The CBO was asked to estimate the cost of the bill if the 20 most prominent provisions were extended permanently. That’s where the 3 trillion came from.

And the bill doesn’t extend those provisions, so the talking point is bullshit.

ACORN has subsidiaries and partners (i.e. noprofits with shared administrators and office space) who will get that money. Count on it.

So? What the fuck does that have to do with ACORN? Bullshit talking point. And besides which, ACORN was completely absolved of any wrongdoing whatsoever, so who gives a fuck?

The field mouse thing was stupid, but its habitat will receive money.

It’s habitat (ie coastal wetlands) could undergo protection and cleanup measures if the Army Corps of Engineers chooses to do so. It’s a shovel ready project that cleans up industrial salt ponds, moves levees, and helps protect important economic staples like the steelhead trout and salmon. But not one cent is directly allocated to such. If you don’t want wetlands reclamations jobs to be created, take it up with the Army, because the bill leaves it up to them.

The cost per job? I’d love to see the cost per “permanent” job, taking out all the temporary construction and IT positions. I’ll bet it’s more than 220K per.

If you take out all the temporary jobs, you also cut out all the money spent creating them, so the cost for the permanent jobs should be about the same. Also, since when do Republicans want the government to create more permanent jobs? I thought you guys would be happy such jobs would revert to the private sector when they are no longer needed.

Also, Zandi’s analysis seems to say that giving money to poor people is better for the economy than giving money to middle-class people. Any idea why?

That’s an easy one. Poor people can’t afford to save money. Every dollar you give them is going to go right back into the economy. By extension, giving money to the middle class is better for the economy than giving money to rich people or corporations. When you’re in a recession/depression, spending is good for the economy and saving is bad for the economy. Unfortunately, no one remembers to encourage savings when the economy is booming (helps fight inflation). Keep in mind that the best path in a recession is to give to both the poor and the middle class – never rely on only one tool in your financial toolkit.

If you are still with me, there was this little hidden gem:

FSP // Feb 17, 2009 at 7:52 pm

“ACORN is just the latest proxy for black and brown people getting money that should rightly be going to bank executives, I think.”

This is why I don’t come here. Bye.

Nice try Dave, you don’t come here b/c you get pwned time and again. From the party of the “The Magic Negro” I can’t see for the life of me why Dave thinks its such a far fetched reach…but then again, looking at his content, I actually do I guess.

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