Your taxes are being raised! REVOLT…right after work of course
Conveniently tomorrow’s revolt is taking place from 4 to 6:30 I guess the modern day revolutionaries need to make sure they don’t use any of their PTO and are saving it for a real coup. You know, something like immigration. Patriotism is sure in the air baby or maybe that residual Easter Egg dye!
So, in an attempt to find out what taxes are being raised I have jumped into the preverbial Den of Misinformation.
Here is apparently a short list of what these 21st Century band of Happy Hour Revolutionaries fear and want to take back the country for:
Do you smoke? Cigarette taxes are going up.
Do you live in a home? Property taxes are going up.
Do you drive? Gasoline taxes have gone up.
Do you donate to charity? You can deduct less of your donation now as a tax refund.
Do you drink alcohol? The tax on that is up 50%State level – Top Marginal Rate increase for personal income tax making more than $60,000 will be raised from 5.95% to 6.95% that is an increase of 14%
And God forbid you work for the state. There’s more if you’d like to hear it.
I guess they are going to take the state back first. Oh and does anyone else find it amusing a teabagger complaining about higher taxes is worried about State jobs?
In other words, every complaint except the gas tax is directed at state, not national, government.
Good luck with that.
a lot of state employees (including teachers) make over $60k
If you’re a teacher, those other taxes are going up so that you keep your job. You can be upset about one thing or the other but not, logically, both.
Have you seen TNJ article about the tea parties? The reporter swallows whole the legend of Rick Santelli, no word about the astroturfing or the backing of Armey’s organization. And the comments have been threadjacked by some real loon.
The conservatives are revolting!
Do the ‘new rule taxes’ apply to Brian Murphy and those of his ilk? or is it just thee and me (again)?
So true, anon.
The charitable tax deduction change only happens to people in the top tax brackets, the >$250K bracket.
They got NOTHING. And the more they move to the right, fewer will follow. It is AWESOME.
Does noone here understand it is the spending that is out of control. Do you not care that our goverment has committed to spending trillions of dollars in defecit spending, financed through public debt ? When you imagine the issue is solely taxation you make a huge mistake and show no understanding of the problem at hand. The value of our currency and the solvency of our government is worth of concern and unmistakable irresposible caretakers should be called out.
Bob, if the issue is spending, then where have you been for that last eight years?
No question that spending is out and has been out of control. I don’t question that. It is the government as a whole and I honestly don’t give a darn who is in charge. It simply has to stop. I know of no conservatives happy with goverment spending during the last 8 years. But the promises of the last 8 months have been absolutely impossible to imagine or accept. The abuses started by the last and contining into this are utterly unacceptable.
And none of these people even acknowledge that local revenues are down because their guys broke the economy, and I’d bet none of this poutrage comes with any serious (read: politically viable) ideas for cutting back.
zI know of no conservatives happy with goverment spending during the last 8 years.
How about the 2004 CPAC and RNC conventions chanting “four more years…” they sounded pretty happy.
No conservative was unhappy enough to primary Bush in 2004.
“unhappy with spending” was a deathbed conversion adopted after their 2006 losses, and then they spouted it with gusto after 2008.
I know of no conservatives happy with goverment spending during the last 8 years.
Do you know any that voted for Bush twice? Okay then.
When my revenue is down I spend less. Government must not run by the same rules in your eyes. The economy is in the tank. If you ask me it was due to unbelievable greed and unconsionable abandonment of personal responsiblity. On the part of the bankers, mortgage brokers and borrowers. Government rules allowed it and in some cases encouraged it. Truth is there should be a helluva lotta people in jail over this, which is another failure of the people we have elected to run this country.
how have you been abused bob… now, show me on the doll where Obama taxed you… don’t be afraid big guy. a bunch of people are about to go litter to show him who’s boss.
OH! btw the taxes taken out of one of my pay checks (the minimum wage job) is less now. so.. hm i guess that means…. i dunno you are a dimwit?
Government must not run by the same rules in your eyes.
Forgot all of your MacroEcon, have we?
I have never said a word about Obama. Take your tax break and celebrate I would.
The thing is, Bob, you never said a word until Obama.
Accepting an expanding government with a declining workbase is forgetting my MacroEcon ?
lol, pandora
but not true.
It’s true… tomorrow they will be protesting the 2008 tax rates.
Oh I know the official event literature says they are protesting “spending…” but the morans will be waving their 1040EZs and complaining about Obama.
Just smile and hand them a copy of Obama’s birth certificate.
When you find one send a copy to the courts they’ve been looking for it
you never said a word until Obama.
It’s true… tomorrow they will be protesting the 2008 tax rates.
Oh I know the official event literature says they are protesting “spending…” but the morans will be waving their 1040EZs and bashing Obama.
Why don’t you print up a bunch and hand them out yourself?
Link times out of course.
Take the tin foil off your head… it’ll work.
goodnight all.
I would ask that you consider that people right now who never imagined they would do so are protesting the acts of their government. This is not the usual subjects, this is not the usual deal. It is not Obama it is just unfortunate timing if you think it is a racial thing, it is a political thing. The policies and actions of the last year or so are just not supportable and many ordinary people are now standing up to be counted.
“When you find one send a copy to the courts they’ve been looking for it”
Um…actually, no they haven’t…
The policies and actions of the last year or so are just not supportable
So the best teaparty ought to be the March On Crawford.
you are very naive.
which is exactly why he and the rest of the sheeple will be out there tomorrow
Bob – there are essentially two levers available to get us out of a recession. Monetary policy and fiscal policy. To a large extent, we have exhausted the monetary policy toolbag. This leaves us with just a single lever, fiscal policy.
This is spending and taxation by the government. Try and stay with me here… The government can spend at a deficit (which, unfortunately we have done in good times as well as bad) and influence the economy. This creates jobs and restarts the economy.
There are two things to keep an eye on. The first is to make sure you spend a lot of money to stimulate the economy, you don’t want to underspend. Second, when things are back on track, you reverse course in a controlled way.
Bush and Reagan both ran deficits during good times. This is shitty policy, but I bet you love Reagan and I bet you voted for Bush twice. Ya know what? Good luck, Bob. you have your work cut out for you. I hope I see you in Wilmington.
Here is the birth certificate link:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
from what I understand, in order for growth we have to have deficit spending somewhere. Either privately or through the government. However the type of spending is important and the Fed can’t fuck thinks up like they did with Volcker under Raygun
am I missing something? How is this impacting ordinary people?
It makes them feel better to think that Obama is illegitimate.
The best part is that there is a serious question in my mind that John McCain was eligible to be President. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone. There is a very sketchy set of naturalization laws governing a birth in a US territory and on military bases.
For example, babies born on a base in Germany are considered foreign-born and immediately naturalized. Of course, it is nit-picking, so it hardly has a bearing on whether or not he should have been eligible to be President. But the same is true of these birth certificate freaks.
Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code[5] grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone with at least one parent who is a United States citizen.
Which part grants it to people born in Hawai’i?
Also, the grant of citizenship does not necessarily meet Constitutional muster:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President
Ya’ll aren’t absorbing the facts from my Dear Brother, Bob.
And to a. price who said,
“OH! btw the taxes taken out of one of my pay checks (the minimum wage job) is less now. so.. hm i guess that means…. i dunno you are a dimwit?”
price, we would never stoop to name calling as you have. It shows you are very insecure, or at least functionally illiterate.
Yes, YOUR weekly taxes were just cut with the new employment circular that was distrubuted. You are silly, however, if you don’t understand that that difference must be made up somewhere.
Your employer is going to take the heat immediately and when that cost gets too much for him/her to handle, the problem will trickle down to folks like you getting laid off.
Kelley – you have been drinking too much Kool-aid. How has your trickle-down theory worked out so far?
Why doesn’t Kelley know that your tax money is NOT your employer’s money?
Yes, YOUR weekly taxes were just cut with the new employment circular that was distrubuted. You are silly, however, if you don’t understand that that difference must be made up somewhere.
Is this the beginnings of the conservative anti-tax cut movement?
“price, we would never stoop to name calling as you have. It shows you are very insecure, or at least functionally illiterate”…..
ahhh nothing like a blatant contradiction to prove a point. along with a mischaracterization of illiterate…. a smattering of irony… it really is quite beautiful. .
and kelley…. do you think i should pay more taxes….. how… socialist of you!
and since i like name calling…. because sometimes it is fitting to call actual dimwits, dimwits…. you, my dear contradictor…. are a twit!
It’s a tax revolt! Conservatives want the bottom 90% to pay more taxes so that the 10% can pay less? Boy, this is getting confusing.
wow Kelly you didn’t really help Bob by the way.
I did like the theory that if a tax is cut it has to get made up somewhere. Seems sort of a twisted logic from people that think there are too many taxes no?