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Do Republicans have a back-up plan if the economy gets better?
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If that happens, they’ll try to take credit for it.
They will argue the economy is cyclical and it would have gotten even better if Obama had not interfered with free markets and more government regulation.
We don’t even have a plan if it doesn’t!
LOL, JZ
Has anyone told Cheney the republican party got their ass kicked because of his and GWB failed policies? Today the old blowhard is giving a speech, on of all things, national security. Maybe he can talk about how invading Iraq took the country away from fighting terror and allowed the Taliban to regroup and rearm. Maybe it’s time to ride off into the sunset and start praying to god for the sins of his past…like poor John Ashcraft.
I haven’t figured out why I’m supposed to care when Cheney speaks. Has the media already forgotten who got us into this mess?
In wingnut circles it is an article of faith that Republicans were responsible for the Clinton boom.
The spectacle of the past VP attacking the sitting President is appalling. It shows a complete lack of class.
They will plan another 9/11 like they did the first time
Considering that it was Republican policies that balanced the budget, reformed capitol gains, ended the marriage penalty and gave the child tax credit, and ended the attempted take over of the health care industry, it is the Republican Congress which should be credited for the economy of the 1995-2006 boom which resisted credit shocks, oil shocks, 9/11, natural disasters, and war.
Republican Speakers saw the creation of over 25 million jobs.
After the Democrats took over again, what happened?
See? David illustrates precisely how Republicans will remake reality to suit their many biases. For example, he shows a complete lack of understanding about monetary policy, which was the real reason for the balanced Clinton budgets. But then, he shows a complete lack of understanding of most issues, and he still makes common cause with racists like Lyn from a couple of days ago.
Of course, everybody outside their bubble now realizes what liars Republicans are. Please don’t tell David. We need the comic relief.
Republicans would love the economy to not be an issue. Then the focus can be more on repairing the culture.
Democrats are taking us to a moral debacle because they are being governed by an ACLU view of the world.
They are increasingly being run by kooks who think that people who can’t even develop a plan to get Sat Phones to FEMA contracters planned 9/11 and covered it up. It is disturbing and I am concerned about the direction of a once great party.
Who ran the monetary policy for Clinton? Republican appointments at the FED come to mind.
Monetary policy does not balance the budget except that economic growth gives more revenue.
Look a the first 3 Clinton budgets. They left close to 200 billion dollar deficits as far as the eye could see into the future. The planned spending in the budget baselines were increasing by 8% or more a year. The reason the budget got balanced is because the GOP had the courage to say no and cut the baselines to about 6%. Mr. Clinton fought them tooth and nail including vetoing budgets.
The sky didn’t fall but his poll numbers were low so he turned around triangulated and claimed credit. He started signing GOP bill after bill.
Balancing the budget was an important part of the economic growth because it allowed credit to go to new industries instead of the government.
The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republican know that they can’t run something as complicated as a 14 Trillion dollar economy with 300 million individual decision makers. Democrats can’t either but think they can.
anon, “The spectacle of the past VP attacking the sitting President is appalling. It shows a complete lack of class.”
Sorry anon, this really isn’t new. Now, Cheney really didn’t wait long, but Gore was all over Bush. He recently just lied about waiting two years to criticize Bush after leaving office in 2001.
All Gore:
“But instead of embracing the bipartisan national consensus to improve our environment, the Bush administration has chosen to serve the special interests instead of the public interests and to subsidize the obsolete, failed approaches of the past instead of the exciting new solutions of the future.” The Berkeley Daily Planet 23 April 2002
Ten days after criticizing President Bush’s handling of Iraq, Al Gore offered a scathing assessment today of Mr. Bush’s stewardship of the American economy. Mr. Gore said Mr. Bush’s policies had created a “crisis of confidence in U.S. economic leadership throughout the world.” The New York Times 3 October 2002
“Gore called for increasing the international security force in Afghanistan and broadening its mandate beyond Kabul, the capital, to the whole country. He urged Bush to pay greater attention to the views of NATO allies, and criticized him for pursuing a more unilateral foreign policy than President Clinton.” CNN 13 February 2002
Conservatives weren’t crying then, and if liberals think Cheney is so bad for the party, why don’t they embrace him? Are you telling me you want Cheney to stop speaking so the GOP will grow stronger?
Gore had the right then and Cheney has the right now. At least Cheney is staying away from the professor’s beard/gut, yuck.
David. Culture?
That’s the main reason 30 to 40 year old republicans are leaving the party. They don’t like your definition of culture. It’s the 21st century man, enough of the fire and brimstone.
I’m sorry David, but you can take your unrealistic, hypocritical culture and shove it.
American culture started here on the Eastern seaboard, specifically from VA to Mass, and not some remote shit-dust bowl, one stoplight town in Texarkana!
Not to wade too deep into the culture stuff; but Cracker, the Eastern Seaboard was the most remote place any of the original settlers had ever been. It was also a hot bed of religiosity. There was a wide range of beliefs and varying degrees of cultural mores, far from the monolithic ideologies of the the Northeastern megalopolis.
Gosh, that came off way more hoity toity than I planned, I’ve gotta lose my thesaurus.
And do you have those magnets on your fridge with an individual word on each? You know, the Evil Liberal edition? Because all your writings appear to be built by buzzwords and really make ZERO logical sense!
The Dems are in trouble because they follow the ACLU view of the world? I mean WTF?!?
Do you know how silly that sounds? Could you even coherently explain the ACLU moral view of the world?
Acting like fucking 5th graders! That’s all you are these days – calling people Socialists (like that means anything, expect for your lack of socio-political systems knowledge) and the “they did it too!” responses to inquiries of wrongdoing. Well if you haven’t noticed, sane folks in America could give a toss about your faux cultural wars – there are more important things to worry ourselves about these days.
Hell, I could be wrong – you might be using the Evil Liberal Mad Libs instead. LOL!
JZ – I’m not referring to early Colonial times; I’m talking about American culture, post 1700.
The core, the soul of this country is here….Philly, Boston, NYC, Baltimore, Richmond, and its surrounding areas.
Philly-est. 1682
Boston-settled 1630 incorporated 1822
NYC-settled 1624
Baltimore-settled 1729 incorporated 1797
Richmond-founded 1737
I’m not sure why you would only draw the line back to 1700. I guess its a semantic argument, but I’m curious anyways. One of my favorite Americans and one who is still emblematic of American Exceptionalism is Ben Franklin. He lived from 1706 to 1790. As a crafter of early American culture, I propose he’s a great argument in favor of your timeline.
I’d say the core of America exists in each one of the fifty states and the bond between them. No other such bond has ever existed in the world between such varied lands for so long.
On a personal note, I know Philly too well to want it to be the core of America.
Confession: I wiki-cheated the dates, I hope they’re right.
Actually, Bill Clinton proposed a balanced budget 5 of his 8 years in office, worked with republicans like Newt and left office with a surplus. That surplus was quickly devoured by a republican president and republican Congress to the tune of $10.8 trillion deficit on GWB’s last day. In fact, the last four republican presidents have run huge deficits, increased spending and David, look this up, INCREASED the size of government, going back to Richard Nixon. Bill Clinton, as history also reflects, PROPOSED balancing the budget, did not fight tooth and nail with republicans as you incorrectly alledge, and deserves at least some credit for the economic and budget successes during his Presidency. To suggest otherwise is simply not true. Moreover, to suggest things in such black and white terms as you always do, reflects the intellectual dishonesty of both your thinking and how you apply it. Most people understand life and politics aren’t that black and white, because, well David, they aren’t. Maybe that’s why the republican party has lost the respect and trust of the American public. Denial and fiction don’t sell.
I should’ve been clearer – our values as a country emanated from the original 13 states, of course! That’s why it grinds my gears when I hear some bloviating Washington douchebag (think David Broder) saying that real American values, or the “average” Americans, are found somewhere in the Midwest. What? So the geographic center of a country is where all real values are found?
No, it started here in the East and moved West. And like most groups of people who move away from a sphere of influence, values change, for the good and the bad.
I like your example of Franklin; he embodied everything that is great about our country – an intellectually astute pragmatist/humanist who didn’t allow superstition and played-out tradition get in the way of progress
Take someone today with the same traits as Franklin, and many on the conservative side would cavalierly label him a godless, French-loving social elitist. I’m sure of that much!
“Do Republicans have a back-up plan if the economy gets better?”
Jeb Bush for president. LOL
If the economy gets better, tax cuts for the rich (to “return the money to the people”)
If the economy gets worse, tax cuts for the rich to “stimulate investment to create jobs.”
And in their spare time – “Same thing we do every night – try to take over the world!”
25 is a good one because it has a ring of truth and a great dose of humor.
Of course, we favor cutting taxes for everyone.
VC – They’d label Franklin a godless, French-loving social elitist because he was one, and proudly so! And yours truly is also.guilty as charged. 🙂