We Are All Human, Unless Some of Us Pretend We Are Not.
Following up on my original post this afternoon, Daily Kos diarist Liberality echoes my main point of anger concerning Mark “Cry for Me in Argentina” Sanford, but says it better:
Gov. Sanford, on the other hand, does not have our sympathy. Not because of his adultery, but because of his hypocrisy. You want the gloating to stop? Then get your fucking noses out of our bodies and our bedrooms.
I’m talking about marriage equality and equal rights for gay people. I’m talking about abortion. I’m talking about the utterly absurd waste of time that is abstinence-only education by the government (you can teach your own kids any damn thing you want).
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As long as you guys think it is your business and your right to try to force the rest of us to conform to the sexual mores of your particular perversion of Christianity, you can expect to get your noses rubbed in it with relish and glee every time you show that you don’t think the rules you want to apply to everyone else should apply to you.
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You don’t like gay marriage? Don’t marry someone of the same sex. You don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. You think the only thing kids should be told about sex is to keep it in their pants? Tell your kids that, but don’t waste my money or my kids’ time on that nonsense. Once you do that, I promise we won’t care who Republicans have sex with.
Yes, Mark Sanford’s affair ties directly into conservative, and especially social conservative, opposition to such bills like SB 121, where they oppose it because it would interfere with their “religious” right to discriminate against gay people.
If Mark Sanford were a social libertarian instead of a social conservative, I would not have cared less about this affair, for at least then he would not be a hypocrite.
Sing it, DD!
A sad commentary on life by a liberal who doesn’t respect an opinion different than his own yet wants 100% tolerance bu those who he attacks.
Speaking of being human, unborn children do not get that choice do they?
An individual’s religious belief is indeed his own and you do not get to call it perverse because you disagree.
Keep ranting, it hurts your cause and makes Sanford look better.
Mike Protack
Hell yeah!
If not making sense was anorexia, Protack would be Karen Carpenter.
Some of us are disappointed when people fail, others are overjoyed – especially when they’re from the other political party. The second group are the hypocrites.
Mary Jo Kopechne is still dead, and so is Chandra Levy. John Edwards still has a love child, Barney Franks let his significant other run a prostitution ring out of his house, and Robert Byrd burned crosses. John Kerry pretended to throw his medals over the White House fence, Al Gore pretended he was against tobacco, even though his family grew it on their plantation, William Jefferson still can’t explain the cash in his freezer, and the list goes on, and on, and on.
You can’t call anyone a hypocrite for failing to live up to standards when you have no standards whatsoever.
(JFK gets a pass because he nailed Marilyn Monroe. Dude!)
Keep ranting, it hurts your cause and makes Sanford look better.
Mike Protack
if you ever take your own advice, you’d be so much better off and maybe an actual candidate that had promise instead the caricature you have become with a died mustache Mike.
The second group are the hypocrites.
Why? Because you said so?
BTW – Levy was in an affair with Condit, but she was the victim of street crime.
Amost forgot Eliot “client #9” Spitzer and John “I can’t drive 55” Corzine.
G –
We go way back.
I know you are not part of the GOP borg. You can admit that the “promise keepers” like Ensign and Sanford are low life lying freaks who richly deserve the karmic beat down they are getting.
G Rex: By your own standard, then, you’re a hypocrite, right? Or are you just terribly, terribly saddened by Democratic misbehavior? Asshole.
“Speaking of being human, unborn children do not get that choice do they?”
Mike Protack, flying argument for post-birth abortion.
is it technically even a “child” before it is born?
DD,
Right on, Brother!
This is pretty funny:
“Tell your kids that, but don’t waste my money or my kids’ time on that nonsense.”
That is really ironic coming from a liberal…..
“Some of us are disappointed when people fail, others are overjoyed –”
So you are disappointed with Sanford. Ok. But “overjoyed” doesn’t fit me. I do think it’s arrogant that the guy thought he could get away with this charade; sad that his wife was put in a position of having to cover for him (and, ahem, rather feminist of her to refuse); curious that his leadership style includes letting his staff lie for him without their knowledge; amazing that, knowing that his state Constitution did not allow any person except him hold executive power, he left the country without notifying his OWN PARTY’S Lt. Gov; and — yes — hypocritical that the man who kicked Bob Livingston when his affair became public and insisted that Livingston should resign has not resigned himself.
Overjoyed? No. Just wondering how a person’s head can handle that much cognitive dissonance.
Overjoyed – no. Surprised – no. Disappointed – indifferent.
Not overjoyed, but you can easily mistake the point and laugh session as such. But the folks on the right who are trying to play defense on this thing will never get what Progressive Mom @14 is saying. This is not about having fun at someone else’s mistake — it is about watching the moral culture warriors get hurt on their own weapons.
His wife seems like a nice lady:
I would like to start by saying I love my husband and I believe I have put forth every effort possible to be the best wife I can be during our almost twenty years of marriage. As well, for the last fifteen years my husband has been fully engaged in public service to the citizens and taxpayers of this state and I have faithfully supported him in those efforts to the best of my ability. I have been and remain proud of his accomplishments and his service to this state.
I personally believe that the greatest legacy I will leave behind in this world is not the job I held on Wall Street, or the campaigns I managed for Mark, or the work I have done as First Lady or even the philanthropic activities in which I have been routinely engaged. Instead, the greatest legacy I will leave in this world is the character of the children I, or we, leave behind. It is for that reason that I deeply regret the recent actions of my husband Mark, and their potential damage to our children.
I believe wholeheartedly in the sanctity, dignity and importance of the institution of marriage. I believe that has been consistently reflected in my actions. When I found out about my husband’s infidelity I worked immediately to first seek reconciliation through forgiveness, and then to work diligently to repair our marriage. We reached a point where I felt it was important to look my sons in the eyes and maintain my dignity, self-respect, and my basic sense of right and wrong. I therefore asked my husband to leave two weeks ago.
This trial separation was agreed to with the goal of ultimately strengthening our marriage. During this short separation it was agreed that Mark would not contact us. I kept this separation quiet out of respect of his public office and reputation, and in hopes of keeping our children from just this type of public exposure. Because of this separation, I did not know where he was in the past week.
I believe enduring love is primarily a commitment and an act of will, and for a marriage to be successful, that commitment must be reciprocal. I believe Mark has earned a chance to resurrect our marriage.
Psalm 127 states that sons are a gift from the Lord and children a reward from Him. I will continue to pour my energy into raising our sons to be honorable young men. I remain willing to forgive Mark completely for his indiscretions and to welcome him back, in time, if he continues to work toward reconciliation with a true spirit of humility and repentance.
This is a very painful time for us and I would humbly request now that members of the media respect the privacy of my boys and me as we struggle together to continue on with our lives and as I seek the wisdom of Solomon, the strength and patience of Job and the grace of God in helping to heal my family.
On the other hand, it is better to aspire to values and fail than to not aspire to any values at all.
Which is, of course, the difference between the GOP and the Democrats.
…it is better to aspire to values and fail than to not aspire to any values at all.
Especially when there is no cost to failing and the empty “aspiring” is so lucrative.
“On the other hand, it is better to aspire to values and fail than to not aspire to any values at all.
Which is, of course, the difference between the GOP and the Democrats.”
Democrats indeed aspire to values, values like respect for each and every one of us (Democrats, Republicans, Independents, …), in such ways as social safety net (Social Security and Medicare, and now nationwide health care), fair taxation (as opposed to Republicans cut taxes for the rich during a recession and two wars), diplomacy before invasions, equality for all (opposition to discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identification, marriage equality, etc), respect for our environment (opposing drilling in the ANWR, preference for development of renewable resources over scarring our lands and skies).
Republicans have no monopoly over values.
Thank you PB. Further, Republicans do not have a monopoly on the values they are talking about: family values. Anderson just again implied that only Republicans have family values, and indeed implied that Democrats did not aspire to any values at all, including family values.
How does he know that? He has never been to my house, met my family, or lived my life. Yet he presumes to judge me or any Democrat simply because we are Democrats and hold different political opinions than him. This is why I hold him and every single member of the radical right in complete contempt. This is why he is a hypocrite. This is why his party is dying.
The problem with that argument is that it can lead to several other statements — some of which condone murder and a variation of which has gotten my labeled a racist by one individual here.
“You don’t believe in racial discrimination? The don’t discriminate.”
“You don’t believe in shooting abortionists? The don’t shoot one.”
“You don’t believe in polygamy? Then don’t marry more than one person.”
“You don’t believe in sex with pre-teens? Then don’t have sex with one.”
official DL song for Gov Sanford to his mistress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow3AL4DHAk4
the highest highs ever sung…..(2:16)
I guessed 1973 but after checking wikipedia turns out that it was 1975.