Let’s Just Say What This Is
All the hysteria about Tuesday’s speech isn’t about the content of the speech, or one line from the suggested lesson plan, or the loss of class time. It’s about Obama.
The time line is quite telling. News hits that Obama will address school children and the freak-out begins with talk of Obama indoctrinating school children with his socialist agenda. Most of the country scratches their heads and asks what is wrong with telling kids to work hard, set goals and stay in school. They even point out that Reagan and Bush did exactly the same thing, at which point the freak-out morphs into It’s not about what he will say it’s about that line in the suggested lesson plan. It’s propaganda! So the line is removed, but even that isn’t good enough – since the outraged continue to cite it as proof of… god knows what. And as they keep beating that dead horse they toss in the lack of school time along with why can’t it be shown at night when parents can view it with their children. I can’t even keep a straight face typing that last bit, since my bet is that most parents would skip the speech in favor of American Idol or America’s Funniest Home Videos.
So let’s stop pretending that this latest faux outrage has anything to do with anything other than the 21%ers hating Obama and having another hissy fit. While we’re at it… any predictions on the next outrage? Because you know it’s coming.
Tags: Education, President Obama, Republican Crazy
I bet the fact that Bo Obama’s walking leash says “I love Obama” will stir some of the racist Republicans out there.
“It’s about Obama….”
You’re right…it is about Obama. In case you haven’t noticed, polls indicate that independents, who got BO elected in the first place, are abandoning ship in great numbers. His act just isn’t playing in Peoria; or, anywhere else in ‘middle-America.’ He’d better chart a new course.
Those independents want him to do what he promised. So if he does what he promised and shows leadership, they will return. Those Independents did not vote for him for him to be a Bush Republican, which is what you want him to be and what you advise him to do. So your point, Caller Rick, makes no logical sense.
And for now on, back up your comments with links or they will be deleted as spam.
Um… I’m an Independent, CR. It’s really hard to label us. But, I will note, that the way you’re spamming this blog with this nonsense is quite telling and reeks of desperation.
A lot of the decline in Obama’s numbers have come from Democrats. They want him to lead and to fight a little more. I think Obama’s speech on Wednesday will be really important. He’s already been signaling that he’s going to talk about the Public Option. I hope he does a good job of selling it.
I guess the only thing I can say good about the Summer of Spittle is now we know the Republican talking points. Obama can do a lot for himself and for Democrats by dismantling them and making the case for reform once again. People are confused but people are paying attention right now.
Why do Republicans keep up the faux outrage over everything? Answer: Because it’s all they have.
They have no solutions for health care, the economy, Iraq, etc. All they have left is screaming and crying. Read through their comments and show me one that deals with policy, that shows their plan. They’ve got nothing.
True, Pandora. But merely through repetition of their content-free moaning they move the needle. Which is why I advocate the banning of Mike Protack: He is running his next campaign on your dime.
After the wingnuts pulled this stunt, they better not even TRY to name a school after Reagan. I don’t want my kids indoctrinated with their failed supply-side coddle-the-rich oligarchy bullshit.
I feel like I’m being indoctrinated every time I land at Reagan National Airport.
The sad truth is liberals will ignore or deny anything different than their ineffective solutions. The folks here at DL were offered a chance to debate in public the issue of Universal Health Care and you refused. All you had to do was show up.
As for the GOP. The Wyden Bennett plan had bipartisan support , Obama care doesn’t. Iraq? The SOFA agreement for withdrawal was negotiated before Obama became President. Economy? Republicans advocated less pork barrel spending and more business, job creating incentives and lastly Obama’s numbers are dropping very quickly.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/president_obama_poll_numbers_continue_ZfsME3M5Zklm1KoxTV1phK
Local sources of info, News Journal, WDEL etc are losing their influence more and nore everyday. They are looking at the eventual but steady decline as the Evening News has over the last 20 years.
Remember, Obama and the Dems have a super majority. If they had policies good for America they could pass them overnight without one ounce of GOP support, but they don’t so they can’t.
The education speech will matter little as one more well spoken but unexecuted plan.
Mike Protack
“Local sources of info, News Journal, WDEL etc are losing their influence more and nore everyday.”
And yet you are gaining none. It must gall you.
Those independents want him to do what he promised.
‘Promise?’ Which one…’hope’ or ‘change?’
Virtually everything BO does, fails. People are detecting a pattern….
failed – like recently being elected president! lol
damn, you conservatives are silly.
And passing a stimulus package that prevented the recession from turning into a depression, that produced 3.3% growth in the economy when it would have contracted, costing much more jobs.
“Virtually everything BO does, fails.”
This is spam. No thought has gone into it, no effort, no attempt to show something that has “failed” (as if anything could be judged by that standard in less than a year).
These trolls are getting in the way of you folks doing any valuable work. They can’t get liberals to engage them on their own blogs, because nobody wants to argue with assholes who insist they’re right about everything and turn discussions into competitions. So they come here to do it.
It’s one thing for someone like Steve Newton to come on here and make valid, intelligent points. It’s quite another for bored cranks with lots of “ideas” and no followers to spend hours just yanking your chains because they can’t entice readers to their own blogs.
Once upon a time, stores had lots of window to display their wares, but people began breaking them just for the hell of it. After a few repetitions, retailers bricked up old windows and built new stores without them. Make of that what you will.
Geezer, you have written the Post of the Day.
Geezer, you are quite prescient. A number of trolls who have been raiding DL over the past few weeks have no interest in debate. They only want to shout us down, much like their astro-turf comrades at the town halls this summer. They are driving away our liberal and Democratic readership and commenters with their insane and offensive drivel. And all our time is spent refuting their garbage and lies. It will no longer be tolerated.
Longtime conservative commenters like Joanne Christian, David Anderson, Steve Newton, Dana, Maria Evans, RSmitty, and others at least engage on point topics and can engage in thoughtful conversation. They are mostly wrong, but at least they are civil.
All prescient and accounted for.
“And for now on, back up your comments with links or they will be deleted as spam.”
That’s hilarious. Dissenting opinions are now SPAM. It seems like just last week that those who weren’t in lockstep with the ideologies of the far left were terrorists and/or racists. I suppose, in retrospect, it’s an improvement.
Please feel free to delete this post for its perceived spam content.
And it is no surprise that you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a dissenting opinion and a claim to fact about a real thing.
Such as polls. If you are claiming — as caller Rick does — that “polls” show that “independents” are unhappy with Obama’s performance, then I would expect that you could link to said polls and said polls’ crosstabs from where you saw this data about Independents. This is not about treating opinion as spam — it is about documenting your talking points. This is basic, Internet 101. Except, of course, for our wingnut friends who think that we should all forget about the difference between data and opinions.
Here, here, Geezer. I wouldn’t call it spam, though. Just trolling, by definition:
“intended to provoke a response from the reader by containing errors.”
And David Anderson is one of the worst of the bunch. Seriously, why should anybody who espouses torture even be given a place at the table?
I think people like Protack and Anderson are like insane street people who just blather incessantly about nonsense. Why hand them a megaphone? Others, like RWR despite all his pro-segregationist nonsense, are at least engaging and able to write well, beyond just talking points.
Indeed, Rick was stating as fact that independents were deserting Obama in a recent poll because they all agreed with the Republicans and now favor Republicans. It is a fact that a poll shows Independents now disapprove of Obama. What is not a fact is Rick’s interpretation of that, which he was stating as fact. Hence my demand for a link to support it.
Dissenting opinions are allowed here Miscreant, otherwise you would not be here.
“Others, like RWR despite all his pro-segregationist nonsense, are at least engaging and able to write well, beyond just talking points.”
Yeah, I’ve been drinking.
No, RWR can have a civil discussion. Others cannot.
Thanks for the compliment, A1 — but realize that you understand my view of the world quite incorrectly. I’m anti-segregation, and pro-integration. I am also, however, pro-freedom — even when that means allowing those with repulsive views to act on them.
No, you are for legalizing segregation, regardless of whether or not you, personally, would practice it. I get it. And it is still dumb.
I guess the only thing you are pro-choice about is abortion — which is, I concede, one of the few things I’m not pro-choice about.