Buy a Koran Day
I came across this on the Twitter.
If that idiot in Florida goes ahead with burning korans on 9/11, I’m buying a koran on 9/11. Join me?
Great idea. I think I’ll buy two!
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BTW, did I mention I wrote about this douchebag back in July. Yeah, that’s right, I’m all that. 😉
“FBI agents visited Thursday with a minister of a small Florida church that plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11, as public safety became a paramount concern and President Barack Obama added his voice to the chorus of opposition.”
Still any doubt that we’re not living in a police state?
Why does this mean we’re living in a police state? Of course FBI agents would visit, this is an act of terrorism as well. And it IS a public safety concern. I’m sure the FBI visited those involved with the Cultural Center in NYC as well. People are polarized over these issues and ignorance will lead to dangerous situations.
So unpopular free speech now equals terrorism? Thanks for being a card-carrying member of the police state.
Well, they were denied a permit for their Fuego Nacht. So and fire the build is illegal. They can still rip up korans, but something tells me their feeble arthritic (because they are probably all old white peopel) wouldnt be able to.
You also have no idea what the nature of that visit was. They could have been there to warn them that there had been threats of violence against the hate-monstration.
furthermore you forgot (yeah right) to mention that Obama acknowledged their RIGHT to practice free speech, but used HIS free speech (i guess in your leftybag world the POTUS doesn’t get that right) in saying what we all know… that it is a bad idea and they should reconsider.
but in leftabag land, anything to make your point right?
troll.
if we lived in a police state, you’d be in jail by now….
what is it with the left fringe and the desire to live in Nazi Germany. Just so you can claim to be oppressed and feel like a “real” freedom advocate.
Muslims question what would happen if “they started burning Bibles”. They call for tolerance. Too bad the majority of nuts in this country claiming to be christians dont follow the Pastor of the Protestant Church in Memphis. While the Mosque was being built next to the church, the Protestant pastor permitted the muslim community to use their church to hold services. This is unity, this is Christian. Keith Olberman last night.
Keep apologizing for the police state, a.price. Just because they haven’t come for you or me yet doesn’t meant that they won’t, eventually. Consider that the United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 persons in prison or jail per 100,000. Also consider that the United States can imprison and torture you without recourse and call it a “state secret.” Also consider that the United States can assassinate you merely on the orders of the executive. Also consider that American citizens are being tortured and abused daily by police with impunity, including torture and electrocution by tasers.
Then tell me how this isn’t a police state.
“They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.”
Pastor Martin Niemöller
yeah, that sounds like America…or is it that you are referring to…. Nazi Germany (what a shock…. i mock you for wanting to live there and you are so delusional you use it to make your argument.)
in America they DID come for the Communists…. then they realized it was repulsive and kicked out the far right faction of the government. Now people still dont like communists, but it is LEGAL. your analogy dies THERE. But what does a Teabag like yourself know, or care about history. All the parts that contradict your fantasies you just call false, or conspiracies, or whatever. and to re-remind you, the pastor was not told by anyone that he HAD to stop this…. accept the person who denied his permit.
I suppose we should just shoot people who become unruly…. or nothing at all. I KNOW!!!! LET ANARCHY REIGN! that ALWAYS works out. Somalia has no overbearing government and look how well THEY are doing.
I merely asked a question. Nowhere have I given any indication that I am a card carrying member of the (or any) “police state”. I just believe that citizens have the right to expect a modicum of safety. These arguments have passed the point of meaningful dialogue. It’s a meaningless posturing, spewing of unnecessary hate.
and yes, i intend to buy a koran on saturday.
you are exactly right OM. a1 is just a schmuck who thinks that unless the country is run exactly the way he/she thinks it should be run…. and all elected officials agree with him/her, it is a brutally oppressive police state and we should all feel like victims all the time.
A government that can imprison, torture, confiscate property, and kill its citizens with impunity is the definition of a police state. As usual, you cannot refute any of the factual evidence of a police state that I listed. G’day.
OpenMinded, true freedom of speech is not limited by how distasteful another person might find another’s words or react to them. Nor should the government attempt to intimidate the exercise of free speech.
You are making assumptions that aren’t fact-based.
OpenMinded, you wrote, “Of course FBI agents would visit, this is an act of terrorism as well.”
Well, burning a book is not an act of terrorism, no matter how upset people get by it.
“Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither” – Benjamin Franklin
the burning of Korans is an act of terror because it is meant to intimidate and incite fear. as long as you are arguing about text book definitions, you need to live up to your own standards. no one has called it illegal or said that it should be stopped by force of government…. however it IS illegal… they were denied a permit (you seem to forget to respond to that) and therefore it CAN be stopped by local law enforcement.
consider this…. the FBI has knowledge of an attack planned by a terror cell in Florida on the hate-rally. It isn’t too hard to believe considering how groups responded to a cartoon.
does the FBI a) let it happen and you get all huffy about them not protecting citizens who are exorcising their freedom of hate-speech
or b) warn the organizer of the event, but still get you in a huff because it might make him reconsider.
and the answer.. c) a1 has already decided america sucks and is out to get him.
Many things that Martin Luther King did were illegal, too. Ever hear of “civil disobedience?” If they don’t have permit, then it is a local law enforcement issue.
Merely burning a book is not an act of intimidation or incitement, even if it makes you pee in your little pants.
If the FBI has “knowledge of an attack planned by a terror cell in Florida,” then that is what they should be focusing on stopping since that is, in fact, a crime. They should be protecting the right to free speech, not trying to intimidate it.
I’m not sure why your argument needs to revert to name calling. Should our soldiers serving to protect those very freedoms you feel are threatened be harmed as a result of an international incident as a result of this act, would those soldiers be a victim of terrorism? Or will you find yet another way to bend the truth to rationalize your fear of what you don’t understand?
No. I don’t think that threats from terrorists and religious fanatics should make Americans afraid to exercise our rights of free speech or cause the government to intimidate or prosecute those who do. Apparently, we’ve moved from “the land of the free and the home of the brave” to the land of police and the home of the cowards.
“The land of the free and the home of the brave”. Damn thats some major stretch of imagination. Was Abu Ghareb free speech? Was the “Patriot Act” stripping the consitution, constitutional? Are we in the land of the free when an “environmentalist” hooks up on facebook with another environmentalist and gets arrested and jailed consitutional?
Are people protesting for peace and arrested/jailed living in the land of the free? I could go on and on. We are not living in a democracy we are living in an a lobbyocracy. If we are truly the land of the free, why is it that the latest Human Rights Report on the US can’t be read in the US? Just how bad is that report. (democracynow, last night).
NPR is reporting that this Koran burning is now off.
I just find this situation ironic. It’s a proven fact that Islam is one of (if not the most) intolerent religions (or perhaps has the most intolerant followers) on the planet. In suadi arabia, it is illegal to be anything but sunni islam. If you are an apostate you get beheaded. While I personally find this distasteful, I have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
The koran burning is back on by the westboro baptist church if dove doesn’t.
As Americans we are supposed to be guided by our values.
I just find this situation ironic. It’s a proven fact that Islam is one of (if not the most) intolerent religions (or perhaps has the most intolerant followers) on the planet.
Proven by whom? What was the criteria of this proof?
I suspect that if some Christian religions were the law of the U.S., they’d be very intolerant. The U.S. Constitution is what guides us here.
Proven by the UN. Like I said above about Saudi Arabia. The criteria is pretty obvious; you get beheaded for deciding not to be a muslim anymore. Look how women are treated there and in Iran. All of this is sanctioned under sharia.
But then again, I would be pissed too if I was gonna miss a good honor killing to protest someone buring a koran 6,000+ miles away.
Saudi Arabia is a country. Islam is a religion dipshit.
You know, Phil, it wasn’t that long ago that women in this country and Europe were property of their fathers and their husbands, subject to all sorts of all abusive behavior.
Thanks for the lesson. Also, Saudi Arabia’s law system is based on sharia which is Islamic law…dipshit.
Sorry Pandora, I forgot about all of the honor killings and genital mutilations of the victorian era. But seriously, giving them a pass because it was “done in Europe” more than a century ago doesn’t fly.
I have no interest in trying to cure you of your stupidity. Have fun with your wingnut dorm room philosophizing.
Of course one should buy a Quran on September 11. After all, it would be wrong to steal one to burn.
Comment by jason330 on 9 September 2010 at 8:59 pm:
As Americans we are supposed to be guided by our values.
Yeah — like in the First Amendment.
The one that says it is OK to burn a flag (or presumably a book) in order to express one’s beliefs.
And which says that you ar enot requiredto hold something sacred and inviolable because someone elses religion does.
So buy that Quran and burn it — it is as American as apple pie (or shouting “Get your rosaries off my ovaries” outside a Catholic Church).
Comment by anonone on 9 September 2010 at 2:16 pm:
“FBI agents visited Thursday with a minister of a small Florida church that plans to burn the Quran on Sept. 11, as public safety became a paramount concern and President Barack Obama added his voice to the chorus of opposition.”
Still any doubt that we’re not living in a police state?
Yeah — it is sort of interesting that the Obama Regime is sending the Gestapo to intimidate dissenters. Scary.
Or is the new rule of thumb that “Dissent against America is the highest form of patriotism, but dissent against Islam is a form of treason”?
I do love all the National SOCIALISTS here at Delaware Liberal goose-stepping along with Obama.
Allow me to suggest that after you buy your copy of the Q’ran, you do something really radical and read it. Try 3:10, 3:28, 3:118, 5:51, 9:23, 22:19,and, amusingly enough, 66:6.
Have you ever tried cherry-picking the Bible for outrageous behavior? The Old Testament is full of it.
“Comment by OpenMinded on 9 September 2010 at 2:35 pm:
Why does this mean we’re living in a police state? Of course FBI agents would visit, this is an act of terrorism as well. And it IS a public safety concern. I’m sure the FBI visited those involved with the Cultural Center in NYC as well. People are polarized over these issues and ignorance will lead to dangerous situations.”
Boy, you aren’t very smart, to be kind.
Burning a book that some people consider to be holy is an act of terrorism? Provocative, yes. Terrorist? I just stopped laughing.
You are correct. The ignorance displayed by Americans who insist they are somehow more tolerant and enlightened than 75% of the nation WILL lead to dangerous situations.
I listen. You dismiss. Therefore, it is your fault if today’s argument turns into tomorrow’s armed conflict, ya dismissive hater.
Now . . why burn it? Truly, if one wishes to be provocative . . . if one wishes to act out against Islam . . . use the Koran/Quran/Qur’an for toilet paper.
Buy copies and toss them into city streets.
Buy copies and toss them into pig stys.
Buy copies and sneeze into them.
Why limit oneself to burning when there are so many other ways to apparently unnerve a peacable community of folks?
I am not, of course, suggesting people do this. Rather, I am illustrating the many possibilitie, is all.