Who Cares What the S&P Thinks?

Filed in National by on April 19, 2011

Yesterday’s big news was the S&P placing US Treasuries on a “negative watch” — they did NOT change the bond rating of AAA, but the negative watch launched off a good deal of breathless reporting and some of the usual opportunistic bull from Republicans. Tommywonk provides an explanation of what this means.

But here is the thing. The S&P hasn’t downgraded Treasuries — it placed these on their negative watch list, like they’ve done with UK debt. Politicians in the UK used their negative watch status to implement an austerity program that has seriously undermined their economy. And let’s get this in right now — the Brits austerity program is a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts and is not as ideologically driven as our own conservatives’ plan. More importantly — the S&P (as well as our media) missed the story. A month or so back Bill Gross from Pimco (proprietor of the world’s largest mutual fund) dumped Treasuries as did many other signature investors. This is the news that the investor (and the more savvy of our political class) pays attention to, which likely means that the markets have already priced in any effects from these traders deciding that there isn’t much money to be made from holding Treasuries right now.

The other thing to remind people of is that the S&P was one of the (many) handmaidens to the crash we are recovering from. These are the same people who rated mortgage securities AAA when they were at junk bond quality — and made those ratings because they got paid handsomely for it. In fact, comments around some of the financial blogs I read note that we could have avoided this S&P business if Tim Geither had just ponied up the obligatory fat envelope. There are major portfolios that make a point of telling its investors that they no longer rely on the S&P for any part of their investment analysis.

The latest action of the S&P certainly puts them well behind the curve in terms of market assessment of Treasuries. But, unfortunately, we don’t have media that is much able to put together much context for this action. And since we have people like Eric Cantor telling everyone with a microphone how this current action means that the government has to cut spending. Which, of course, isn’t true. The deficit has been with us for a very long time. And the GOP when they were in power did nothing but make it worse — Cantor *voted* for all of the tax cuts, the wars, the Medicare Part D and all of the rest of the profligacy of the Bush era. (And how I wish the media would ASK him how he can square voting for all of that spending with his current deficit peacockery.)

So basically we have the GOP using this as more positioning for the debt ceiling vote. Raising the debt ceiling is an indicator to the rest of the world that we intend to pay our bills. Business leaders have already told the GOP that you don’t even want the business community OR the markets to even think that you are capable of playing chicken with this. Which tells me that this is the cleanest winning hand that President may ever get with these people. Make them send you a clean bill to raise the debt limit (while your other commission is working on a deficit reduction plan), because all he (and Democrats everywhere) need to do is just call for a clean bill. The vast army of business lobbyists will push the GOP to do the rest.

I don’t think there is much chance of a default on the debt, and I don’t think that the S&P action will mean all of that much in the scheme of things. Those who need a new crisis will use this as one to advance their agenda, but this won’t mean much else. And the rest of the world will wonder how it is that the richest country on the planet actually lets its politicians decide whether or not they pay their bills.

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  1. Free Market Democrat says:

    Actually, the interesting thing is that the market did not really move very much in regards to this announcement by S&P. The stock market dropped, but that is equities. The Treasury market and the broader credit market hardly budged at all. In fact, the yield on long maturity US notes (10 and 30 years) remain at or near historic lows.

    CNBC explained this by noting that you can have the “risk trade” (a market strategy that anticipates increasing bond yields as the cost of our borrowing increases to offset increased risk) and a “flight to safety trade” (the idea that, in comparison to other AAA rated sovereign debt, the US seems like a safe haven against credit default). The market has decided (as evidenced by our extremely low yields on our long-term debt) that the US is still one of the safest economies.

    Of course, intervention into the debt markets by the Federal Reserve (“quantitative easing” or “QE”) has artificially lowered the yield on our debt. When this current round of easing, QEII, ends later this spring, yields will inevitably rise as one of the largest buyers of our debt (namely, ourselves) stops buying. If you are looking for a long-term play on this economic story, look at TYO, an ETF that rises at triple the increase of the 10-year Treasury note.

  2. pandora says:

    This…

    The other thing to remind people of is that the S&P was one of the (many) handmaidens to the crash we are recovering from. These are the same people who rated mortgage securities AAA when they were at junk bond quality — and made those ratings because they got paid handsomely for it.

    …is why I don’t really care. Watchdogs they are not.

  3. skippertee says:

    Ditto, Pandora.
    I wonder how they are STILL in business.
    That, how how some exec’s STILL aren’t indicted.

  4. cassandra_m says:

    And for the second day in a row, the bond market continues to yawn at the S&P.

  5. S&P is a joke:

    At least one economist burst out laughing on hearing about the S&P announcement. “They did what?” exclaimed James Galbraith, a professor of economics at the University of Texas in Austin, who formerly served as executive director of the Congressional Joint Economic Committee. “This is remarkable! It certainly will confirm the suspicions of those who have questioned S&P’s competence after its performance on the mortgage debacle.”

    S&P, as well as the other two big ratings firms, all notoriously failed completely to spot the looming disaster of the banking collapse and financial crisis, and famously issued A ratings to mortgage-backed securities that later proved to be virtually worthless paper, as well as to the banks that had loaded up on the financial dreck.

    As Galbraith explains it, “US debt consists of bonds issued in US dollars, which I assume the S&P analysts know. How can the US possibly default on its own currency? The obligation is in nominal dollars, which is to say when the bond retires, the US issues a check in dollars to cover it.”

    Since the US prints its own currency (or actually just issues electronic payments to create new money) whenever it needs it, as Galbraith puts it, “As long as there is diesel fuel to power up the back-up generators that run the government’s computers, they will have the money to back their own bonds.”

  6. Phil says:

    At some point, our creditors are going to get pissed that we keep devaluing their holdings by paying back debts with inflated currancy. This is on top of the fact that we are closer than ever to losing reserve status.

  7. Jason330 says:

    US treasury bonds were regarded as the world’s safest investment prior to Bush…. you do the math.

  8. Mike says:

    LOL what Jason? Blaming Bush? That’s a stretch even for you.

  9. anon says:

    Most of the deficits came from Bush, but the credit downgrade is because we demonstrated in December we do not have the political will to raise taxes.

  10. jason330 says:

    You have partisan blinders on if you don’t see that Bush threw out the old rules regarding debt. The current GOP congress is playing by Bush rules when it holds our national credit rating hostage to its crackpot ideologies.

    The GOP under Bush and now Bohner has introduced an heretofore unknown element of uncertainty into our national credit worthiness. If you deny that simple fact you are a partisan – not a patriot.