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I love the headline in this story:
http://www.middletowntranscript.com/newsnow/x558818680/Second-Republican-files-to-run-for-lone-Delaware-seat-in-House
Also love that they called the Libertarian candidate “Getsy Scott” instead Scott Gesty.
INSURANCE COMMISSIONER KAREN WELDIN STEWART IS OUT OF TOUCH! At Independence Day Parade’s she showed up in a FOREIGN CAR! SHE ALSO USED GOVERNMENT RESOURCES FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES! DUMP KAREN WELDIN STEWART ON 9/11!
Cory Booker To Chair Dem Platform Committee
NOOOOOOOOOOooooooo!!
Hasn’t Booker already proved his lack of political judgment by denouncing Obama’s most successful campaign topic?
And as a result, becoming the guest star in pro-Mitt Romney ads?
Good Lord, this man is not ready. What further harm can he do with his hands on the platform itself?
If I were a reporter I’d head straight for Booker and get quotes first thing every day. You never know.
Drudge is reporting that Condi Rice is the frontrunner to be Rmoney’s VP pick.
Well maybe that’s one of Romney’s “secret black friends”. Cassandra—-cassandra—paging Cass 🙂
Gotta say that Condi as the pick would not surprise me. The GOP is still looking for some magic in skin color without paying attention to policy. On the other hand — has she been out stumping for Rmoney? The others have been on high profile tryouts.
But when Ann Romney floated the idea of a female VP, they were trying to change the subject on the off shore accounts. And here we have VP speculation floated when RMoney is getting clobbered over Bain again. It doesn’t take much to deflect the press these days.
“Magic in skin color”? Oh great, just stir the pot. She’s brilliant, she’s electable, she’s female, she’s black. So win or lose the race card is played. Then we can back into the sexism, and then onto the party alignment—and by gosh—then she won’t be smart enough.
This would be my dream team cass–for this country. And any consideration of her candidacy with a pre-emptive dismissal as some sort of “quota” to balance the ticket just galls me. She’s from the era of having to work twice as hard to get half as far–and yet the man who sits in the White House today, got there in half the time, and probably half the talent (he is smart, but she’s smart, time-tested and resilient), because of having the good birth order fortune of being able to stand on the shoulders of great public servants like her, and race identifying role models such as Miss Rice. Now, I’m just mad at you!!!
She is not electable. She was one of the architects of 2 failed, unpaid for wars. Yeah, Rmoney, name her. Let’s relive the Bush White House failures once again.
Joanne: You know virtually nothing about Condi Rice if you think she is brilliant, at least at her government job. Hmmn, wait, she got poor reviews for her work at Stanford, too.
That’s some weak conservative boilerplate you’re peddling there.
Oh, and she definitively rejected the idea last week.
not to incur the wrath of the Geez….. not that he reads my comments anyway….
But i think the nation as a whole has a very favorable opinion of Sec Rice. now, i know… and many people here know…. what kind of a job she REALLY did, but she is one from the Bush administration that came away with a clean slate…. yeah yeah i know, even though she is a war criminal too….
dont rule her out, all im sayin’. the right wing lie machine wouldnt have a difficult time with her.
Rice has no chance at the nomination. Romney is receiving record levels of donations largely because Obama is black, and because vast swaths of the Republican party are racist. Romney has even already been employing the Southern Strategy. Also, Romney would never defy the Republican establishment, and the Republican establishment will not be running a black presidential or vice presidential candidate anytime soon.
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Ben: You’re right about all that, but she really was emphatic last week about saying no.
@Geezer–poor work reviews at Stanford? C’mon Geezer–you make it sound like she’s the Derek Jeter of baseball, …. let’s keep her around for morale. Now, wait….wait…wait…Geezer will caustically say….because she’s tenured…..you %)#@+!
Oh– and she rejected the notion along time ago before last week, but I realize those western fires may have interfered with your hearing of the drums 6-8 months ago–but I’ll keep my hope alive
And you keep your pea shooter aimed.
You don’t want to see her as the running mate, fine. But don’t impugn the talent and experience she does credibly have. It’s just too “boilerplate” Geez in politics.
The WAPO article on Bain shipping jobs overseas is completely factually incorrect.
If you really care (and I don’t think you do)See link below
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98461051/Facts-on-WaPo-Story
Sorry, Rusty. The cover story about when he was in charge there is falling apart as we speak.
Long story short, if he wasn’t in Massachusetts working for Bain from ’99-’02, then he lied about living there so he could run for governor. His tax returns list Utah as his primary residence.
One can only imagine what horrors lurk in the tax returns he won’t release.
Rusty, welcome to Baingate.
If the article is factually incorrect, Romney’s lawyers will have it taken down in no time. But if it is factually correct, I guess it stays.
Even the document you provided (yes, I went there) claims that Romney was “out of Bain” by 1999.
But Bain’s SEC filings list Romney as an officer well after 1999. And Mitt himself claims credit for Staples jobs created after 1999. And all kinds of statements and documents are now turning up showing Mitt involved with Bain up until 2002.
So Mitt was either with Bain after 1999, or Bain falsified their SEC filings and Romney lied about his involvement. Either way, not a happy outcome for Romney.
I’d like to say Republicans chose the worst possible candidate. But then I remember all the other Republican candidates.
You have it backwards, Joanne. I don’t care what she does, but I’m not going to let you spread conservative nonsense about her unchallenged.
She was president of Stanford. It had nothing to do with tenure. She gets a lot of attention because she was a woman doing a man’s job — the job being tough-nosed expert on the Soviet Union. Once the Soviet Union disappeared, so did Condi’s No. 1 reason for being employed.
Condi Rice has no interest in VP. What she really wants is to be NFL Commissioner. Seriously! If she were ever offered that job, she would jump at the chance. She is a football fanatic.
I was at Stanford (Linear Acceleraor Center) when she was provost. While she was never a prime topic, when her name came up in conversation, it was always favorable and ranged from grad students, to faculty, to experimental particle physicists. I had limited interaction with Condi and she was always professional, even when we were in opposition. Don’t know whether that limited view was reflective of her overall performance as provost or not.
With regards to her performance during her stint in DC depends on who’s doing the evaluation. Objective evaluation requires an objective evaluator.
Joanne – I think the issue with Condi as the Veep choice would be the potential motivation of her selection. One of the most glaring weaknesses of McCain’s selection of Palin (before we got to know her) was that she would provide a safe harbor for all of those Hillary voters. It was going with the theory that it would win the women over to McCain’s side because she was a woman, and that was the only criteria that women sought.
One could certainly make the point that Condi helps Mitt’s foreign policy credentials, but if there is a whiff of cynicism that comes off of the selection process (“I’ll see your black guy and raise you a black woman!”) Mitt is sunk.
I have never figured out why anybody–R or D–thought Condi Rice would make a good candidate, much less be qualified for VP. She is stiff, condescending in manner, and brings so much baggage for prior foreign policy failures that it ain’t even funny. I’ve seen both Michelle Obama and Condi Rice speak, and there is no comparison–whether you agree with their issues aside, Michelle wipes the floor with her every time.
If Mitt wants to get elected he needs to ignore the press to have a woman on the ticket. Obama already functionally has that base covered with Michelle, and nobody available to the GOP is going to challenge her.
She’s from the era of having to work twice as hard to get half as far–and yet the man who sits in the White House today, got there in half the time, and probably half the talent (he is smart, but she’s smart, time-tested and resilient), because of having the good birth order fortune of being able to stand on the shoulders of great public servants like her, and race identifying role models such as Miss Rice.
Who — exactly — do you think you are talking to here, Joanne? You can save your lectures about working twice as hard for someone who doesn’t have the scars from it.
Condi Rice is certainly smart, but her signature skill was to latch onto the conservative gravy train. As Geezer notes, her raison d’etre was the Soviet Union and that experience didn’t help her one bit in facing Al Qaeda. She is widely thought to be in the bottom tier of both Secretarys of State and National Security Advisor — mainly because of how badly the response to 9/11 played out. Colin Powell — who was SoS at the time — understands how the neocons conned everybody. Condi Rice still *is* a neocon. And she has the mark of Bush so all of that incompetence redounds to her too. Especially since she stcuk with it and defended it.
And don’t be mad at me because the GOP has been scrambling to get as much diversity cred as they can buy. There isn’t much that is genuinely inclusive about the GOP, unless you are willing to be absorbed into the Borg. So you end up with catastrophes like Michael Steele or Sarah Palin — because you people expect that black people and women only respond to the *someone like us* signal. It is insulting and continues to be insulting. Much like Romney at the NAACP this week — he went there to score points with his wingnut base (that’s telling those blacks!) than to engage with the people who were there. You can have diversity or you can have the optics of diversity. And the GOP has been a failure at both. But the GOP lives on optics, which means that you’ll still be living with the soft bigotry of low expectations — and getting mad when folks see right through it.
Drop the conservative nonsense please. I’m a ticket splitter, who never holds their nose to vote. Soviet Union gone–got it. It’s a big world out there–and Soviet renaming and repackaging may be the niche of why she is needed. Regardless, endowed chairs, dean, fellowships etc., while continuing at Stanford, underlies her value of being a one true hard-working tenured professor, worthy of university provost, and her intellectual prowess demands a nod and not a dismissal. It’s just cavalier–given her work history and ethic to dismiss under “magic skin color” or Soviet has been.
I totally get it–if you go after Palin or Bachman. But Condi Rice is a credible, bright, hardworking, non-career, public servant–pulled from private life to do what was asked. And all she gets is she’s black and female from LIBERALS? Do I have to tell you what to go after with some substance? OK–she sat on the committee to pick the last Stanford football coach.
Sorry Geez–I LOVE this wishful choice, and have blogged on it many moons ago. Don’t throw out her hard-earned personal qualifications because of party play. And here’s a tidbit for you. Her parents voted for JFK.
If it walks and talks like a conservative — especially one who didn’t seem to know that black people just vote on race — then that’s what you get.
It’s just cavalier–given her work history and ethic to dismiss under “magic skin color” or Soviet has been.
It isn’t cavalier — it is largely the CW on Condi especially after her disastrous WH tenure. Which, interestingly enough, doesn’t get counted in the resume litany you keep repeating. And is largely the basis of the critique of her, which does not equal that she’s black and female. The black and female charge comes from habit of the GOP of picking the signifier — and not the expertise.
@10:03 was for Geezer–to cass @0955—the scars are exactly my point. Wouldn’t it be great if someone w/ those scars actually feels and tastes, and experiences the benefit in this lifetime? All the more validation of a role model of how “worth it” it was.
You have Romney so wrong w/ the NAACP appearance. Those waters were poisoned before the guy even shows up and you know it. So much for tolerance. He was open, accommodating, and raw meat for what was never going to be a campaign highlight—FOR HIM. Staged opposition–and he still had the integrity to put himself in the line of fire–because he has to.
@newton–I’ve heard her too–and would never say she was condescending. I found her to be very warm, light, engaging. She openly admits she has trouble if feeling “left out, or dismissed”, and tends to handle it passively aggressive (my interpretation), until she feels confident enough to “let it out”. And the “stiff” part? My world? She’s just a lady–but I know they’re tough to find these days. She really struck me more genuine and congenial than that.
All the more validation of a role model of how “worth it” it was.
Really? For someone who was thoroughly rolled by the neocon crowd and is likely to be rolled again?
Poisoned? Seriously? This guy shows up to call for dismantling the ACA (which covers alot more African-Americans) and then goes to a fundraiser in Montana to say of that audience:
So Rmoney went to an NAACP convention to face a roomful of people who want government stuff for free. Which is the stereotype, right? That black people don’t care about issues, just free stuff from the government. This from a guy who got a $78K tax break for his damned horse — in addition to all of the other free government support he gets. There’s nothing *open and accomodating* about someone who had no intention of even respecting (much less learning anything about) the issues these people care about.
“He was open, accommodating, and raw meat for what was never going to be a campaign highlight—FOR HIM. Staged opposition–and he still had the integrity to put himself in the line of fire–because he has to.”
You need to keep up with the news. It was his support that was staged — he flew black supporters in to provide the cheering section.
Joanne: You really are reaching if you think that party plays a role in my criticism. I, too, had a positive view of her until the books about her role in foreign policy decisions started hitting the shelves. I don’t care that she’s black and female, although I guarantee that got her places in the GOP that she wouldn’t have gotten as a white man, unless she were rich.
It’s almost an ironclad guarantee — the less Republicans know about a politician, the better they like him or her. Cf. Marco Rubio, Herman Cain, Rick Perry …. need I go on?
So, Newton’s contribution is to compare Ms. Rice with Ms. Obama? And that Ms. Obama is looser (as in not as “stiff”), so she has that black woman thing all wrapped up.
That’s some deep insight.
“I’ve seen both Michelle Obama and Condi Rice speak, and there is no comparison–whether you agree with their issues aside, Michelle wipes the floor with her every time.”
I would imagine that depends on whether you’re discussing fast food or foreign policy.
“I would imagine that depends on whether you’re discussing fast food or foreign policy.”
I’ll take Michelle on foreign policy, too. She might be the underdog on that subject, but Steve is right about her being a better (read more passionate and animated) speaker.
Since when are the VP and first lady the same position? or is “token black lady” now an official part of an administration? …. or is it just to pathetic to try and compare Michelle to Anne R-money?
“I’ll take Michelle on foreign policy, too. She might be the underdog on that subject, but Steve is right about her being a better (read more passionate and animated) speaker.”
Yes sir, it’s been proven time and time again that passionate and animated speakers are the best leaders.
Hey — the American Family Association says NO to Condi.
Since Romney and crew are deathly afraid of this bunch, who will give me odds on Condi as VP now?
The only thing worse than making the kind of promise Romney made to those nutbags, is breaking the kind of promise he made to those nutbags.
Well, I like Snowe and Whitman too!!! But not as much as Condi.
Snowe and Whitman are moderates so they are non starters in the current GOP climate.
The problem with Condi is when she stepped up the the plate, she blew it. From pre-9-11 to post 9-11 and all the policies that came from it. Does she have advanced degrees? Yep. Classical pianist? Yep. Knowledge of the former Soviet Union? Yep. All that didn’t help her in the previous administration.
Picking Condi as VP will do nothing but bring up the Bush years. She is an anchor for that and that alone.
DelawarePoitics is touting Huckabee as a good pick.
Given that I had limited contact with Condi, I at least had some and she was never condescending. On the contrary, she exhibited grace and class. I suppose it could have been a show and I not proclaiming her qualifications or fitness. Just sayin, that in my dealings with her, she gracious and had class.
Do you smile to tempt a lover, Condoleeza?
Or is this your way to hide a broken heart?
Many dreams have been brought to your doorstep
They just lie there and they die there
she was never condescending.
An excellent representation of the banality of evil.
Nice one, John Manifold.