Republican Shutdown and Default Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 8

Filed in Open Thread by on October 9, 2013

David Frum:

Barack Obama was never likely to be popular with the Republican base. It’s not just that he’s black. He’s first president in 76 years with a foreign parent—and unlike Hulda Hoover, Barack Obama Sr. never even naturalized. While Obama is not the first president to hold two degrees from elite universities—Bill Clinton and George W. Bush did as well—his Ivy predecessors at least disguised their education with a down-home style of speech. Join this cultural inheritance to liberal politics, and of course you have a formula for conflict. But effective parties make conflict work for them. Hate leads to rage, and rage makes you stupid. Republicans have convinced themselves both that President Obama is a revolutionary radical hell-bent upon destroying America as we know it and that he’s so feckless and weak-willed that he’ll always yield to pressure. It’s that contradictory, angry assessment that has brought the GOP to a place where it must either abjectly surrender or force a national default. Calmer analysis would have achieved better results.

The Frum piece is really a must read in its entirety.

Earlier this week, we saw a pair of post-shutdown polls, each of which showing Americans placed more blame on Republicans than Democrats for the government shutdown. Now we have a third:

The Associated Press-GfK survey [finds] 62 percent mainly blamed Republicans for the shutdown. […] 63 percent of the public believes Republicans are not doing enough to negotiate compared with 52 percent who believe President Obama isn’t doing enough. Sen. Ted Cruz, credited by many as being the driving force behind the GOP’s shutdown strategy, is only known by half the public, but among those who do know him, twice as many view him unfavorably as favorably.

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  1. Jason330 says:

    Heritage Foundation Breaks with GOP on Debt Ceiling

    WASHINGTON — A crack appeared Wednesday morning in the conservatives’ united front against President Barack Obama in the budget-and-borrowing crisis of 2013.

    Michael Needham, CEO of the powerful group Heritage Action, said that he opposed conditioning a crucial vote to increase the government’s borrowing authority on the group’s main goal: defunding Obamacare.

    Under questioning at a breakfast with reporters, hosted by the Christian Science Monitor, Needham, a product of the Stanford Business School, conceded that failure to raise the debt ceiling would indeed disrupt the global economy.

  2. puck says:

    They’ve already lost the Chamber of Commerce.

  3. puck says:

    I would love to be a fly on the wall watching Jim Demint talking the tea party off the ledge.

  4. liberalgeek says:

    I guess the question is just how many of them still believe the BS that they have been fed by these groups prior to their about-face. Some of them are like Don Ayotte, ignorant true believers.

  5. bamboozer says:

    It’s going as foreseen, after all it did not work in the nineties either, and love him or hate him Newt was a dramatically better leader than Boehner. But crunch time is here, and it’s going to be very interesting to say the least. As for Frum he frequently makes sense, an unusual trait for a Republican.