Tuesday Open Thread [10.22.13]

Filed in Open Thread by on October 22, 2013

E. J. Dionne dares to hope…

“…I suggest that we allow ourselves a margin of hope in the wake of the decisive defeat of the extremists who closed down the government to accomplish absolutely nothing. It is a hope tempered by humility. Giant leaps ahead aren’t in the cards. But some important things changed for the better because of this battle….the most hopeful sign of all is that the shutdown reminded Americans that our country depends on an active, well-functioning government. This has emboldened Democrats to challenge the tea party’s sweeping anti-government bromides with an unapologetic case for the public sector.”

John Judis at the New Republic says the Tea Party has been with us a long time:

Since the late 1960s, America has seen the growth of what the late Donald Warren in a 1976 book The Radical Center called “middle American radicalism.” It’s anti-establishment, anti-Washington, anti-big business and anti-labor; it’s pro-free market. It’s also prone to scapegoating immigrants and minorities. It’s a species of right-wing populism. It ebbed during the Reagan years, but began to emerge again under the patrician George H.W. Bush and found expression in support for Ross Perot and for Pat Buchanan with his “peasants with pitchforks.” And it undergirded the Republican takeovers of Congress in 1994. It ebbed during George W. Bush’s war on terror, but has re-emerged with a vengeance in the wake of the Great Recession, Obama’s election and expansion of government, and continuing economic stagnation.

This monster, like a zombie virus, is eating the Republican Party alive and tearing the diverse, and often conflicting coalitions therein apart.

NEW YORK CITY–MAYOR–Quinnipiac : Bill de Blasio (D) 68, Joseph Lhota (R) 24.

NATIONAL–US HOUSE–PPP: “The survey [says] Democrats have a shot at taking back the House of Representatives in the 2014 election cycle…The results of the latest survey show that incumbent Republicans in 15 of the 25 districts polled trail generic Democratic candidates. When combined with the results of the previous surveys, the polls show that generic Democratic candidates lead in 37 of 61 GOP-held districts…When voters were informed their Republican candidate supported the government shutdown, 11 more districts flipped and one race became a tie.”

Democrats only need 17 seats to win the House.

NATIONAL–US HOUSE–USA Today/Princeton Survey Research: Just 4% of those surveyed — equal to the margin of error — say Congress would be changed for the worse if nearly every member was replaced next year while 47% say it would work better.

“Those findings are similar to the public’s views in previous years when voter dismay cost one side or the other control of the House. In 1994, when Democrats lost their majority, 40% said Congress would be better off if most members were replaced. In 2006, when Republicans lost control, 42% held that view.”

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  1. Jason330 says:

    “The shutdown was so magnificent, run beautifully. I’m so proud of these Republicans, and that is because they have branded the Republican party as the anti-Obamacare party.”

    –Ann Coulter

    I agree.

  2. fightingbluehen says:

    I’m not having many laughs from politics lately, but when you see them parading around some lady from Selbyville because she successfully signed up for Obama care…….well, that will do it.

  3. Suggest all read Michael Lind in Salon.com on the misunderstanding about the makeup of the tea party among our fellow liberals. They’ve got the chops to grow, in my opinion and we’ve got to prevent them from doing so while advancing our agenda.

  4. think123 says:

    Tea Party type tribalism has been around forever. I’ve been around a long time, what we’re now experiencing in the GOP is more tribe mentality than I’ve ever seen. More Shite vs Sunni than conservative versus liberal. Way more than traditional right versus left. The way the Tea tribe sees it, they are the sole heirs of the Founders protectors of the USA, all others are enemies of America. It’s Tea versus Libtard and Communist in their twisted tribal world. Half the world is fighting tribalism. Hard to believe We The People could split up, but Tea tribe is putting us on that course.