Pence Turns on Trump

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1. pandora says:

   October 8, 2016 at 3:28 pm

   You know what’s offensive? Pence supporting, and signing into law (that was suspended – not by him – but it’s the thought that counts), that abortions and miscarriages must be cremated or interred – and it bans women from choosing medical research as an option.

   As a wife and a mother I am offended by Mike Pence – the leader in the de-fund PP movement – and proud of it.

2. nemski says:

   October 8, 2016 at 3:43 pm

   Pandora, regarding Pence, as the saying goes, a broken clock is right twice a day – that’s 2 out of 1,440 times.

3. Paula says:

   October 8, 2016 at 5:42 pm

   I notice that all the shocked statements and faux apologies include “in the eleven-year-old video.” As if that’s so far back in the past to be irrelevant. And if eleven years is too far to go back to, why bring up what HRC said or did 11 or 20 years ago?

4. AQC says:

   October 8, 2016 at 6:02 pm

   And, he was almost 60 years old!! Personality is well ingrained by then and his personality is fucked up!!

5. El Somnambulo says:

   October 8, 2016 at 7:09 pm

   Exactly, Paula. As if we’ve seen any evidence of personal growth from this narcissistic sociopath in the intervening years.

6. mediawatch says:

   October 8, 2016 at 7:22 pm

   Left off the end of the Pence statement: …. “so let’s drop it and get on with the really important stuff.”

7. Paula says:

   October 8, 2016 at 7:49 pm

   Have you all seen the edited-together clips of the *1957* Elia Kazan movie, A Face in the Crowd (starring a frighteningly enthusiastic Andy Griffith) that’s being shared on Facebook? The similarities are uncanny. You’ll find it on Paul Papanek’s page — he put the edit together (I found him mentioned in a Daily Kos article, so I figure I can give his name here). But see the whole movie if you can. It features a “live mic” moment. But unlike here and now, the people watching TV in the movie saw the light and deserted him.

8. Steve Newton says:

   October 8, 2016 at 8:27 pm

   Mike Pence has a professional talk show host’s understanding of what you can and cannot get away with saying, and even though he comes off as a sanctimonious prick, he doesn’t quite ooze the danger vibe that he’d grope my daughter in the handshake line if he thought he’d get away with it that Trump does…

   But let’s be clear that pandora’s right:

   That said, the man’s a misogynist asshole who’s never met a woman who’s life and sexuality he didn’t want to control via State policy.

   And if he’s disavowing Trump on this one–but stopping well short of walking away from the ticket (which, if he did it, would end the election in an afternoon)–he’s not doing so for the women of America–he’s doing it for Pence 2020 so that he can say, I stood up to Donald Trump, even as his running mate.

   But as Secretary Clinton prepares to slam Trump into McGovern electoral territory, let’s think about the revelation of some of her speech transcripts today, and the fact that when he damn near ran the table nobody thought that Watergate break-in back in June would ever come back to haunt Nixon, either.

9. Liberal Elite says:

   October 8, 2016 at 9:43 pm

   Both Pence and Trump are grating.

   Make America Grate Again

10. mediawatch says:

    October 8, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    @LE: well, that’s slightly more tolerable than Make America Grope Again

11. Josh W says:

    October 8, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Steve, those emails are almost all smoke, no fire. The biggest take away I got from them is that Clinton was favorable to single-payer healthcare.

12. nemski says:

    October 9, 2016 at 7:06 am

    There is no doubt that Pence is only thinking about Pence. But has anyone ever seen a VP candidate turn on the head of their ticket before? I believe it is unprecedented.

13. pandora says:

    October 9, 2016 at 7:21 am

    I think it is unprecedented, nemski. Then again, everything about this seems unprecedented. 😉

14. Liberal Elite says:

    October 9, 2016 at 7:58 am

    I wonder how much it will cost to get Trump to withdraw?

    Maybe this was his plan all along.
    He should write a book: “How to get $250,000,000 from Republicans”

15. Dave says:

    October 9, 2016 at 8:34 am

    It’s too late to withdraw. Ballots are printed. Voting has begun. At best people can write in a candidate and perhaps in some states ballots could be reprinted. The net result would be a split GOP vote. It’s a loss either way.

    The better strategy for the GOP would be to focus their energy and money on down ballot races.