Dustyn appears to be testing out some message besides the trumpification of the GOP. He seems to have an issue with “a candidate with baggage” or the dreaded “experience”.
While I agree that the key is giving people something to vote FOR, rather than vote against, I’m not sure exactly what he is getting at. Whoever the candidate is, is going to be handed a bunch of baggage from Marino and the national Republicans that are going to pour money into the district. “Tax and spend”, “establishment”, “in the pocket of X”, etc. I’m not sure that it makes sense to have friendly fire on any of the candidates.
Specials are all about base turnout. So the GOP isn’t necessarily going in the wrong direction, but this is such an easy way to fire up the D’s at the same time, not wise.
What i was getting at, in this post and several others on my timeline, is that there are several candidates that are running that are fresh new faces without any baggage or past with the establishment of the party, and they are strong contenders. It is my hope that they will be selected for not only this reason, but also because they are good people with a different message that will resonate with more people and drive the base to get out and vote in this special election.
It’s not intended to be friendly fire, it was intended to point out that if we run on those messages I mentioned, that we will be playing right into their trap and will be eaten alive. We have a unique opportunity. We know the message the republicans are using, it’s up to us to get out ahead of that and push a different message. One that the people of that district will be excited about and enthusiastic about enough so to get out and vote.
That’s what I’m pointing out. Not that any of the candidates are awful people, rather that the old tired message of being ready on day one, or touting experience, will not work this time.
There more than one person interested in running as a Dem in the special election. Why was only one invited to speak at the RD meeting? Why is the party installing an establishment figure who will suffer from the same enthusiasm gap that hurt other Dem candidates this year, instead of going with an exciting new person who will galvanize the masses?
There are 6 people interested in running. And the “establishment” isn’t really exerting much influence at all. The county executive committee has gone out of their way to not express a preference for any candidate.
Yes, the Appo referendum is today and the schools are the polling places. And yes, there is an education showcase event going on at each and every school for parents to come to, including band concerts.
I anxiously await to see who the Dems pick for their candidate.
anon – There has only really been one official “establishment” event. Everyone was invited to that. There was an unofficial one on Sunday, which was a fundraiser. I certainly saw 5 out of 6 people there.
There have been a few other, very small events put on by RDs (mostly holiday parties). I wouldn’t call those “establishment”. But, I guess to some people those are establishment events.
I know that I had an event last night where I invited all of the people that I had time to track down. Perhaps that is what this is about. I know that personally, I have been inundated with things to attend, questionnaires to answer, things to organize and Christmas preparation.
I know for certain that I invited 4 of the 6 (and I could swear that I invited a 5th, but perhaps in the hubbub of Sunday, I missed them at the fundraiser. I spoke to the 6th person today and explained how I missed them and apologized for not being able to chase down an email or phone number.
If that is what this is, I certainly regret the confusion. There was no malice intended.
Jason330, You got me wondering too. So here are the numbers:
RD 8: Hillary 3710 Trump 3084 (Trump won 3 out of 7 EDs)
RD 9: Hillary 1004 Trump 1230 (Trump won all 3 EDs)
RD 25: Hillary 3375 Trump 2227 (Trump did not win a single ED)
RD 27: Hillary 3451 Trump 2956 (Trump did not win a single ED)
Totals: Hillary 11,540 Trump 9497 ( + 2043 for Hillary)
Trump won 6 out 22 EDs or 27%
21,037 total votes casted – Trump got 45% (9497)
LG, while the “establishment” isn’t intentionally putting it’s thumb on the scales for any particular candidate, one of the candidates does have the backing of the governor-elect and BHL. That sends a pretty clear signal.
So are we moving the goalposts on what constitutes “installing an establishment figure”
Publicly, the only thing that I’ve heard is that they will get behind whoever wins the nomination. Bethany has one vote, Gov-elect Carney doesn’t have any in the process.
No, no goalpost being moved. I don’t even think anyone is being installed, I’m just saying that there seems to be a clear preference from those at the top, which may or may not have influence on who gets the nomination.
If Trump received 45% of the votes cast in the relevant area, then, unfortunately, from a Democratic perspective, and with the prospect of tons of outside money flowing in for Marino, he starts with almost an incumbent edge.
The playbook–
“Endorsed by BHL”
“Oh, great, endorsed by the woman who claims she couldn’t keep her crazy husband from stealing my signs the way she stole that last election from me.”
National marketing testing suggests that this approach has legs.
Dustyn appears to be testing out some message besides the trumpification of the GOP. He seems to have an issue with “a candidate with baggage” or the dreaded “experience”.
While I agree that the key is giving people something to vote FOR, rather than vote against, I’m not sure exactly what he is getting at. Whoever the candidate is, is going to be handed a bunch of baggage from Marino and the national Republicans that are going to pour money into the district. “Tax and spend”, “establishment”, “in the pocket of X”, etc. I’m not sure that it makes sense to have friendly fire on any of the candidates.
Specials are all about base turnout. So the GOP isn’t necessarily going in the wrong direction, but this is such an easy way to fire up the D’s at the same time, not wise.
Yeah.. I don’t know what Dustyn Thompson is getting at. I probably should have just posted the picture.
What i was getting at, in this post and several others on my timeline, is that there are several candidates that are running that are fresh new faces without any baggage or past with the establishment of the party, and they are strong contenders. It is my hope that they will be selected for not only this reason, but also because they are good people with a different message that will resonate with more people and drive the base to get out and vote in this special election.
It’s not intended to be friendly fire, it was intended to point out that if we run on those messages I mentioned, that we will be playing right into their trap and will be eaten alive. We have a unique opportunity. We know the message the republicans are using, it’s up to us to get out ahead of that and push a different message. One that the people of that district will be excited about and enthusiastic about enough so to get out and vote.
That’s what I’m pointing out. Not that any of the candidates are awful people, rather that the old tired message of being ready on day one, or touting experience, will not work this time.
There more than one person interested in running as a Dem in the special election. Why was only one invited to speak at the RD meeting? Why is the party installing an establishment figure who will suffer from the same enthusiasm gap that hurt other Dem candidates this year, instead of going with an exciting new person who will galvanize the masses?
There are 6 people interested in running. And the “establishment” isn’t really exerting much influence at all. The county executive committee has gone out of their way to not express a preference for any candidate.
Also, while people in the senate district are here, don’t forget that there is a referendum vote today in Appoquinimink. The polls are open until 8PM.
So you think the “establishment” isn’t exerting much influence? Really? Not inviting ALL candidates is being objective?
LG, Are the schools polling places?
Yes, the Appo referendum is today and the schools are the polling places. And yes, there is an education showcase event going on at each and every school for parents to come to, including band concerts.
I anxiously await to see who the Dems pick for their candidate.
I don’t know what Emma is talking about — 6 people spoke at the RD meeting to make their respective cases to be selected.
anon – There has only really been one official “establishment” event. Everyone was invited to that. There was an unofficial one on Sunday, which was a fundraiser. I certainly saw 5 out of 6 people there.
There have been a few other, very small events put on by RDs (mostly holiday parties). I wouldn’t call those “establishment”. But, I guess to some people those are establishment events.
I know that I had an event last night where I invited all of the people that I had time to track down. Perhaps that is what this is about. I know that personally, I have been inundated with things to attend, questionnaires to answer, things to organize and Christmas preparation.
I know for certain that I invited 4 of the 6 (and I could swear that I invited a 5th, but perhaps in the hubbub of Sunday, I missed them at the fundraiser. I spoke to the 6th person today and explained how I missed them and apologized for not being able to chase down an email or phone number.
If that is what this is, I certainly regret the confusion. There was no malice intended.
I’d love to know what the Trump % was in this SD, but it wasn’t contested this time, so it would have to be teased out of the RD #’s.
Jason330, You got me wondering too. So here are the numbers:
RD 8: Hillary 3710 Trump 3084 (Trump won 3 out of 7 EDs)
RD 9: Hillary 1004 Trump 1230 (Trump won all 3 EDs)
RD 25: Hillary 3375 Trump 2227 (Trump did not win a single ED)
RD 27: Hillary 3451 Trump 2956 (Trump did not win a single ED)
Totals: Hillary 11,540 Trump 9497 ( + 2043 for Hillary)
Trump won 6 out 22 EDs or 27%
21,037 total votes casted – Trump got 45% (9497)
LG, while the “establishment” isn’t intentionally putting it’s thumb on the scales for any particular candidate, one of the candidates does have the backing of the governor-elect and BHL. That sends a pretty clear signal.
So are we moving the goalposts on what constitutes “installing an establishment figure”
Publicly, the only thing that I’ve heard is that they will get behind whoever wins the nomination. Bethany has one vote, Gov-elect Carney doesn’t have any in the process.
No, no goalpost being moved. I don’t even think anyone is being installed, I’m just saying that there seems to be a clear preference from those at the top, which may or may not have influence on who gets the nomination.
The best thing to be is someone who has been elected to something.
If Trump received 45% of the votes cast in the relevant area, then, unfortunately, from a Democratic perspective, and with the prospect of tons of outside money flowing in for Marino, he starts with almost an incumbent edge.
The playbook–
“Endorsed by BHL”
“Oh, great, endorsed by the woman who claims she couldn’t keep her crazy husband from stealing my signs the way she stole that last election from me.”
National marketing testing suggests that this approach has legs.