CNN’s numbers: 25 House Republicans have flat-out said they will vote against the current version of the bill; 4 more have indicated they are likely to oppose it. That’s 29 lawmakers opposed to or leaning against the bill.
not to be benny-doom, but didnt this same thing happen with ACA first time around? We cant claim victory until drump is in jail and a non-nazi (republican) is in the WH.
“In a major setback for the Republicans’ years-long effort to repeal Obamacare, GOP leaders were forced to delay a House vote planned for Thursday as negotiations continued around the legislation. The delay comes after the conservative hardliners who have been resisting the legislation emerged from a meeting with President Donald Trump with no clear deal to win over their votes.
According to various reports, the floor vote on the health care bill, the American Health Care Act would be pushed until at least Friday, with a meeting with the full House GOP conference slated for Thursday evening followed by a procedural vote to make way for the final bill.
As the White House negotiated with members of the conservative hardline group, the House Freedom Caucus, more and more members of Republicans’ moderate flank came out of the woodwork to say they were opposing the repeal bill due to the rightward direction it was heading.” Via TPM
Whenever you start to panic, remember that Trump isn’t the only incompetent with an R after his name.
For many years, House maniacs could get by as stupid ideologues because a few professional administrative types (think McConnell-type credentials; no personality but willing to do the grunt work) did what legislative lifting was needed. That species now is extinct in the House. They have nobody left who knows how to mind the store.
All this time we thought some huckster shit would be Trump’s undoing. Mexican rapists, grabbing pussies, mocking McCain and the disabled, and on and on.
Maybe he is actually undone by politics in the end. He doesn’t seem to know how to do it.
Taking down Trump alone shouldn’t be the goal. We should aim to tie the GOP to him for the trip to the bottom. Trump already has started blaming Ryan; Trump loyalists are not GOP loyalists. As much as I want Trump out, I want him to inflict maximum damage on Republicans on the way down.
Trump is transient, even if he lasts four years. GOP political theology — it’s not fair to call it ideology, because the motivators are not ideas but articles of faith, resistant to reason — has proved harder to kill. Most Democrats accept and agree with GOP orthodoxy on the economy.
I want the GOP’s ideas discredited for good. The failure of conservative solutions, on both economic and social policy, has been clear for at least two decades. Tribalism and strong propaganda have propped up the agenda despite its failures, and Trump’s victory demonstrated that most of the party’s voters aren’t loyal to those ideas anyway.
I don’t expect Trump’s numbers to change, but this makes the Republican House look like amateurs and incompetents. Those are the people up for election next. I just read somewhere that 59 GOP reps have districts that Clinton won.
The Senate had the House’s back; maybe they can calm the House chimps down long enough to explain that to them, because if the House can’t pass the Obamacare repeal they’ve been promising for 7 years even the Trump voters will be disgusted with them.
That story reminds me of the late Rep. Sonny Bono, who once complained “Why is there so much legalese in these bills?” and was told (by Chuck Schumer): “Mr. Bono – we are making laws here.”
Current whip count: 29
CNN’s numbers: 25 House Republicans have flat-out said they will vote against the current version of the bill; 4 more have indicated they are likely to oppose it. That’s 29 lawmakers opposed to or leaning against the bill.
The bill could pass with 21 GOP “no” votes.
A reporter from Politico said that, barring something ‘seismic’, there was no way the bill would pass.
As of 3 pm, the NYTimes had 31 no votes with 15 others either leaning no or with concerns.
Washington Post had 37 solid no’s.
I hereby claim victory in my prediction that Trumpcare is going down.
Any subsequent votes will be deemed as ‘fake votes’.
That is all.
LOL… Republicans are the dog that caught the car.
The one tangible impact that proposed Trumpcare has had has been to make Obamacare far more popular than it ever was during Obama’s time in office.
In seeking to destroy Obama’s legacy, the Rethugs might have succeeded in embellishing it.
not to be benny-doom, but didnt this same thing happen with ACA first time around? We cant claim victory until drump is in jail and a non-nazi (republican) is in the WH.
“In a major setback for the Republicans’ years-long effort to repeal Obamacare, GOP leaders were forced to delay a House vote planned for Thursday as negotiations continued around the legislation. The delay comes after the conservative hardliners who have been resisting the legislation emerged from a meeting with President Donald Trump with no clear deal to win over their votes.
According to various reports, the floor vote on the health care bill, the American Health Care Act would be pushed until at least Friday, with a meeting with the full House GOP conference slated for Thursday evening followed by a procedural vote to make way for the final bill.
As the White House negotiated with members of the conservative hardline group, the House Freedom Caucus, more and more members of Republicans’ moderate flank came out of the woodwork to say they were opposing the repeal bill due to the rightward direction it was heading.” Via TPM
The hardliners want complete repeal first with no replacement. That would be so bonkers, I’d almost like to see it happen.
This clusterf@#k couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of cannibals.
The bill is now losing votes by the hour.
Whenever you start to panic, remember that Trump isn’t the only incompetent with an R after his name.
For many years, House maniacs could get by as stupid ideologues because a few professional administrative types (think McConnell-type credentials; no personality but willing to do the grunt work) did what legislative lifting was needed. That species now is extinct in the House. They have nobody left who knows how to mind the store.
All this time we thought some huckster shit would be Trump’s undoing. Mexican rapists, grabbing pussies, mocking McCain and the disabled, and on and on.
Maybe he is actually undone by politics in the end. He doesn’t seem to know how to do it.
Dealmaker? Sad.
Can somebody queue up Chopin’s Death March?
Taking down Trump alone shouldn’t be the goal. We should aim to tie the GOP to him for the trip to the bottom. Trump already has started blaming Ryan; Trump loyalists are not GOP loyalists. As much as I want Trump out, I want him to inflict maximum damage on Republicans on the way down.
Trump is transient, even if he lasts four years. GOP political theology — it’s not fair to call it ideology, because the motivators are not ideas but articles of faith, resistant to reason — has proved harder to kill. Most Democrats accept and agree with GOP orthodoxy on the economy.
I want the GOP’s ideas discredited for good. The failure of conservative solutions, on both economic and social policy, has been clear for at least two decades. Tribalism and strong propaganda have propped up the agenda despite its failures, and Trump’s victory demonstrated that most of the party’s voters aren’t loyal to those ideas anyway.
I don’t expect Trump’s numbers to change, but this makes the Republican House look like amateurs and incompetents. Those are the people up for election next. I just read somewhere that 59 GOP reps have districts that Clinton won.
The Senate had the House’s back; maybe they can calm the House chimps down long enough to explain that to them, because if the House can’t pass the Obamacare repeal they’ve been promising for 7 years even the Trump voters will be disgusted with them.
House Dems should file a “repeal and replace” bill that turns the ACA into Medicare for all.
Love this quote from CNN story just before the vote was pulled:
But the President is said to be “agitated” by the process, an aide said, which he thinks is all “political.”
So, what the hell did he expect the process to be? A$$hole. Most likely, he was hoping it would be dictatorial or tyrannical.
That is fucking hilarious. Also #sad
That story reminds me of the late Rep. Sonny Bono, who once complained “Why is there so much legalese in these bills?” and was told (by Chuck Schumer): “Mr. Bono – we are making laws here.”
You libs don’t get it. Universal health was proposed in Delaware in2008 by a Republican.
You tards said nothing and the DEGOP. Skewered him
Uh-oh. Is Protack back from the dead?