Biden victory speech thanks Sanders supporters for their passion & tireless energy
Like it or not, liberals are a part of the Democratic coalition. Biden’s recognition that they exist is a step in the right direction. At least Biden seems to understand that pushing Sanders supporters away wasn’t in the longterm best interest of the Hillary Clinton campaign.
“I want to thank Bernie Sanders and his supporters for their tireless energy and their passion,” Biden said. “We share a common goal, and together we’ll defeat Donald Trump. We’ll defeat him together.”
Biden allowed only that his own campaign “is taking off, and I believe we’re going to do well from this point on.”
“Take nothing for granted,” Biden added. “Want to earn every single vote in every single state.”
Well, we have almost eight months to fight the buyers’ remorse that is sure to follow.
He’s still the same guy who was stumbling all over the place three weeks ago. Yet he is viewed as the ‘safe choice’.
I just hope that he appoints a progressive woman to the ticket. Warren or Abrams will do. But I betcha we’re looking at Amy Klobuchar. After all, there are next to no progressive voices in his inner circle. Never were.
Sure, I’ll support him. But at best we’re settling.
Yeah if this goes according to the “third way” playbook, it is not going to end well.
Election 2020 – dumber and dumberer
I think this take is spot-on:
“The waters parted for Joe Biden like no other candidate has ever seen,” said CNN’s chief political analyst, Gloria Borger, describing the wild swing in his direction. “It’s almost as if he’s standing there saying, ‘What? What? I’m here?’ Because he did everything wrong. He lost a couple times, he came in second or third. This should not have happened, but it did happen to him.”
We all know what we’ll get from Joe, same for the Democratic establishment. That’s interesting as moderates have failed numerous times in recent years. Joe may well beat Trump, but the end result will still be a feeding frenzy of the rich and the big corporations that they own.
Joe Biden can beat Trump for the simplest of reasons: People like Joe Biden. People don’t like Donald Trump.
That doesn’t mean Trump can’t cheat his way to victory — we still don’t know if hackers, Russian or not, can change votes — but it’s not going to be Clinton all over again, because Biden isn’t Hillary.
Most of the liberals I personally know are superficial in their judgement concerning politics, and they generally look at candidates at face value: color of skin, gender, sexual orientation, etc.. What I gather from those people is that they didn’t like Bernie because he is “angry”.
Most people are superficial in their judgments concerning politics, no matter their nominal self-characterization.
Face it, most conservatives you know are barely smarter than monkeys. And I mean monkeys, not apes.
im beginning to think Bernie’s perceived strengths last time were just a demonstration of how much people didnt like Hillary.
Hillary was definitely more symbolic of the Goldman-Sachs domination of both her campaign and the Party than Biden. As such, working families had no reason to flock to her. Biden’s reputation is closer to the traditional base of the Party.
Bernie could win Pennsylvania. Biden will win Pennsylvania, most likely, and Michigan. Hillary couldn’t, in fact didn’t try to, expand her base beyond the suburban liberal moms.
Saw this same conclusion drawn by some of the professional pundits. “Turns out people didn’t hate capitalism, they hated Hillary.”
Except for the pesky fact that she received more votes than any candidate in history not named Barack Obama. Not invalidating concerns, but we can’t pretend that didn’t happen – it feeds into the “loser” narrative that emboldens Republicans further.
That ignores the fact that she lost the Electoral College, and that she all but ignored the key Midwestern states that she needed to achieve a victory in the Electoral College, the only victory that was really a victory. Biden is better positioned to win the states that she ignored. Betcha he doesn’t call ’em ‘deplorables’ either.
Touché. She made some major mistakes, and also got screwed by Comey. I still think we should recognize that, in spite of the outcome, it wasn’t the catastrophic loss that the the electoral college made it seem in terms of actual votes.
She was also, by polling, the most disliked presidential candidate in history not named Donald Trump. Can’t pretend that didn’t happen, either.
Fair comment, though it always baffled me as to why (ok, not the people she called “deplorables” but most of them weren’t going to vote for her anyway). Combination of misogyny and Hillary fatigue I suspect. She’d been in the public eye from 1992-2016 continuously.
I didn’t dislike her as much as I did her husband, but they were both smug assholes to everyone who disagreed with their embrace of corporate funding for the party that formerly represented labor. And that started before the 1992 election and never let up.
There was also the Bush-to-Clinton-to-Bush-to-Clinton problem. The second Bush was worse than the first, and there wasn’t much to indicate the second Clinton wouldn’t be worse than the first.
I think the likely voters were motivated to get rid of Trump and they consider Biden to be their best chance. It is very likely they just want to get back to normal. It’s doesn’t push the progressive needle, but if you look at how far right the needle is at the moment, just getting back to normal would be an achievement.
The first rule of the Presidency should be – Primum Non Nocere (first do no harm). Harm is what Trump does to everything he touches. I worry that we cannot recover from it and if he were to gain a second term, I am convinced it would end the nation. To have a candidate that just stops and reverses the harm is all I really want at the moment.
And yes, I also like a candidate who is willing to tell an ammosexual they are full of sh*t.
I hope Biden’s takeaway from 2016 isn’t “pander harder to conservatives” but I know it probably is the takeaway. It is always the takeaway.
I do know that when I go to vote, I will not hold my nose regardless of who the candidate is. There may be voter in line who is making up their mind at the last minute and if they see me holding my nose and the Trumpistas proudly wearing their stupid MAGA hats, those undecideds (if there are any) might they would rather be with folks who think they are winners.
It has to be full throated and unequivocal.