With Our Media, Republicans Would Be Dumb To Stop Constantly Lying
The Benefits of Lying – with a Compliant Press
We have a new Quinnipiac poll out today. No big surprises. About where the rest of recent polls have been: Biden 47%, Trump 46%. But it’s this paragraph down in the poll release that has my attention.
Half of voters think Joe Biden was involved in Hunter Biden’s business dealings with China and Ukraine, while 40 percent think Joe Biden was not involved. Thirty-five percent of voters believe Joe Biden was involved and did something illegal, while 13 percent believe he was involved and did something unethical but nothing illegal, 1 percent believe he was involved but he did not do anything wrong, 11 percent did not offer an opinion, and 40 percent of voters believe Joe Biden was not involved.
At the risk of stating the obvious, Republicans have produced no evidence whatsoever to show that President Biden was involved in any of his son’s business dealings and there’s quite a bit of contrary evidence. But by simply repeating the accusations often enough it shapes public opinion in clear and damaging ways.
We know this but it never stops being worth noting it.
For Republicans there is no cost for for lying – only upside.
It’s been a real trip to watch the development of this scandal. At the start of the summer we were in a collective denial about hunter’s behavior. Now there is a tacit acknowledgment that he definitely does have all the trappings of a nepo kid, and we are now talking in terms about separating his actions from his dad.
I want to see this contrary evidence. So far I haven’t seen anything that demonstrates a clear firewall between hunter and Joe. As the zoomers would say, “Show the receipts”
You want evidence of… the absence of something? Huh?
The quoted article above indicates that there is quite a bit of contrary evidence. So let’s see it.
**crickets**
“We” were in collective denial? Who’s we?
The kid’s a little shit and everyone knows it, and I wouldn’t shed a tear if he goes to prison. That’s not the same as kicking back money to his father. The former neither proves nor implies the latter. The fact that you inferred it throws doubt on your reasoning ability.
Dive back into the Delawareliberal archive over the past few years and see how the tone has changed. 2years ago he was a “troubled kid” and irrelevant to the conversation, now he’s a “little shit”
Remember that this is not a normal family dynamic, since his vice presidential days Joe would have had access to a legal team to help him make ethical decisions. Most lawyers and ethicists would recognize that, in the face of the extreme power dynamics involved, Joe should have established clear firewalls between himself and his son’s professional life. There is no evidence that such a firewall was ever enforced or attempted.
Let’s be honest, if there was a viable democratic challenger in this cycle, no one would be contorting themselves this hard to defend their behaviors. It’s just an extension of the Delaware way on a international level.
LOL. If your case hangs on DL change of tone, like the House impeachment committee, you’ve got less than nothing.
Also, why is being lectured by a Trumper about Biden being guilty of not having “established clear (legal) firewalls” so funny to me?
Trump has done worse and is guilty of inciting an insurrection. But don’t let his behavior set the bar for current and future presidents. Joe’s fuckup was giving hunter too long a leash, and now he reaps what he sows. Even NPR is running a story with David Ignatius who is arguing for Joe to step off to the side
Even conservative Republicans (Cornyn, Thune, Moore Capito & others) say that there is no evidence that Joe Biden was involved with Hunter’s activities.
But , yeah, I’m with John Fetterman on this. Bring it on by all means. Further expose yourselves.
I think that speaks more to the anxieties about their own improprieties and fears about being judged by the standards they set. Recall how a diverse group was quick to circle the wagons during #metoo and the Epstein scandals
So you’re basically saying that because pundits with nothing else to do are saying it we should take it seriously. Yawn.
BTW, “even” NPR? What, you think they’re liberal or something? Centrist dipshits, every one.
But but but Trump….
Suck my dick.
I’m not defending his behavior. I never have. I’ve said for years that family members shouldn’t be lobbyists, and I’d welcome a law to that effect.
No politician I know of has created the sort of “wall” you’re calling for. The practice is widespread.
And the idea that lawyers, of all people, would advise anyone on ethics is laughable. Again, I strongly question your reasoning ability, because you’re not showing any signs of possessing any.
Why hasn’t Kevin McCarthy produced evidence that he doesn’t fuck goats? What is he hiding?
Because he does obviously. M.T.G could be mistaken for a goat. Maybe her braying at Biden’s speeches would suggest a donkey. Whatever McCarthey is obviously an animal lover (Gaetz).
The last time an eligible Democratic incumbent president declined to run was LBJ in 1968. How did that work out for you?
It’s not 1968 anymore. That narrative of Biden handily knocking off trump in ‘24 feels a lot more shaky now than it did 3 months ago.
Does pissing your pants give you a warm feeling?
Aside from that Bobby was the service at the Ambassador LA Hotel up to your standards.?
None of what Clay says is surprising because it is the exact same page from the exact same playbook the GOP used against Clinton.
Drive the Democratic base engagement & enthusiasm down with same outrageous lies you use to drive the Republican base engagement up. Take 1 or 2 points from their GOTV and and 1 or 2 points to your GOTV.
That’s the whole ballgame. Everything else is jibber-jabber.
And every time a Clay says it, it achieves exactly what the GOP wants. So who’s the sap here?
People still got excited about Clinton, even with the email nonsense. No one is excited about Joe. The wagon circling on the part of the legacy dems around a tired, old, scandal-ridden gaff machine is hurting the gotv effort more than anything the r’s can do
“more than anything the r’s can do”
Who do you think is pushing that narrative, Nostradamus? Besides you, that is.
Will you stay home?
That’s not a narrative, I’m just telling you how it is. I’ll still show up and vote for the geezer, and spend the next four years cringing as he slowly sunsets while the next generation of fascists jockey to fill the leadership vacuum.
I guess that’s my point. Nobody wants him, but nobody will change their mind to vote for the other guy either.
The enthusiasm isn’t for Joe, it’s against Trump.
The point is, the voters that can make a positive difference for Biden will stay home.
The angry Trumpers and those on the fence will vote.
Those aren’t wagons circling, those are vultures.
“People still got excited about Clinton,”
No they didn’t.