DL Open Thread Monday, July 1, 2024
Joe Biden’s terrible debate performance set off several days of Democratic soul searching, but sadly, the search has been fruitless. They still haven’t found one.
Frankly, the widespread panic embodies why right-wingers hold us in contempt – we run around flapping our hands at every setback. We like to mock them for listening to Fox News, but we’re just as mockable for being led by the nose by mainstream media, which is awash in a sea of calls for Biden to step aside. The New York Times led the charge with an an ugly, needlessly personal editorial that smacks of butt-hurt because he wouldn’t grant them an exclusive interview.
This piece encourages Biden to follow the example of Harry Truman and LBJ who, the author contends, knew when to quit. The author hand-waves away the fact that in each case the decision led directly to eight years of Republican rule. History doesn’t lie: When an eligible incumbent president doesn’t run, his party loses.
If you’re looking for silver linings, viewership for the debate was way down, off 35% from the first debate in 2020, a 20-year low. But that’s OK – Democratic caterwauling ensures that everyone who didn’t watch will get the impression that Biden is all but embalmed.
While our journalistic class sucks its thumb and wonders by the banks of its own lagoon, pregnant women in red states are dying because doctors and hospitals are refusing to treat pregnant women having health crises for fear of criminal prosecution. That’s what Democrats should be talking about instead of fretting about Biden’s declining intellectual capabilities.
I don’t pretend to understand French politics, but on the surface it looks like their centrists are as over-confident as our centrists. Macron’s call for snap elections backfired in the first round of voting. The far-right National Rally party stands poised to take over the government, though it fell short of an outright majority. Oh well, there goes the neighborhood.
The floor’s yours.
You mean that Democrats haven’t been talking enough about abortion? Since the Dobbs decision, that has been by FAR the main issue, if not the only issue, they’ve been hammering at.
We should just get back to that, and simply ignore Biden’s disastrous performance? Why? Because his family wants him to stay in?
You want reasons to stop talking about it? They’re obvious to anyone who isn’t in adult diapers.
1. Talking about replacing Biden helps Trump, not the Democrats.
2. See No. 1.
And no, Democrats aren’t talking about abortion. It’s way down the list of voters’ concerns, because the media isn’t running those stories, and they aren’t running those stories because Democrats aren’t throwing those stories in their faces at every opportunity.
Supreme Court Corruption In Plain View On Trump Ruling:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/01/us/trump-immunity-supreme-court
“We’re still going through the court’s ruling line by line, but one of the practical effects of it on Trump’s federal election case in Washington is that he will now enjoy immunity from any allegation in the indictment concerning his dealings with the Justice Department. Recall that one of the main accusations was that Trump sought to install a loyalist, Jeff Clark, as acting attorney general in order, the indictment says, to do his bid in claiming there was fraud in the election.”
“Another practical effect on the ruling; The justices have ordered that the trial judge, Tanya Chutkan, will have to determine whether Trump is immune from prosecution on allegations related to his pressure campaign on his vice president, Mike Pence. The special counsel, Jack Smith, has charged Trump with trying to strongarm Pence into using his role overseeing the election certification proceeding on Jan. 6, 2021, to throw him the election.”
6-3, but then, you knew that.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Democrats are simply terrible at politics.
Well, Joe has been granted incredible power and authority to protect the people and the constitution from the 3 year MAGA insurrection. Maybe he should use it.
Even without immunity, Joe would be pardoned for any law-breaking by Father Time.
It ain’t over till it’s over. But fascism is on the march worldwide. America used to think it was the bulwark against authoritarianism. But the revered Founding Fathers deliberately left anti-democratic loopholes in the Constitution, which the fascists have learned to exploit. And our so-called freedom loving voters are lapping it up.
Hell, maybe a totalitarian government is better equipped for the resource wars and mass die-off coming due to climate change.
Thanks SCOTUS. President Biden now has the chance to do the funniest thing ever…
Ya mean pardon Hunter? I’m with ya.
You mean an executive order declaring convicted felons ineligible to hold the office of president?
Your idea’s better. Much better.
Drone strike Mar-a-Lago was my first thought. Just an official order to wipe out a domestic terrorist.
I like your idea better than either my or Paula’s idea.
The French centrists would have beaten the far right with more support (and pragmatism) from the left. So the left and center split the anti-right wing vote. I guess that’s no problem for anybody who thinks there’s so little difference between the right and center it doesn’t much matter which of them wins. This doesn’t mean the centrists are better than the left, but both of them are better than the right.
“Capitulate to me or you get the fascists” isn’t the winning strategy that centrists think it is.
Wouldn’t you rather capitulate to centrists than fascists? “Cooperate” is a more accurate word, but distaste for either one is understandable. But that’s politics, which, as they say, “ain’t beanbag.”
At least if Team Biden loses it won’t be their fault! That’s politics. Blame someone else. The uncooperative did it.
“The uncooperative did it” might be an accurate assessment if Trump wins again. They don’t like Trump or fear him but are willing to put him in office to make a point.
go convinced them then
13 page views today from Kuwait?
Does anybody from Delaware actually visit Kuwait?