Monday Open Thread
Welcome to the Monday edition of your semi-daily open thread. It’s a rainy Monday today but if feels like autumn. Are you ready to find out what this week in the rollercoaster of Delaware politics will bring?
Is there anyone more conflicted (and lonely) than a gay Republican? GOProud invited the hateful Ann Coulter to give a speech at their convention. Were they surprised that she was mean and hateful?
After a series of jokes about conservative that sounded — and were received — more like a stand-up act then a political speech, Coulter told the assembled (and predominantly wealthy) conservative gay crowd why they should oppose same sex marriage, adding, “I should warn you: I’ve never failed to talk gays out of gay marriage.”
And then she did.
First, she ran down the stereotypical stand-up comedian’s list of reasons, including that lacking the legal right to marriage allows the less-committed partner to weasel out of it. But in a more serious note, she parroted the losing arguments of the lawyers supporting California’s Prop 8 and told the crowd that the reason she opposes (and they should oppose) same sex marriage is that it is strictly for procreation.
In one of a series of racially insensitive remarks that pervaded her speech, Coulter added, “Marriage is not a civil right. You’re not black.” It was part of a larger argument on which she later elaborated, telling the crowd that the 14th Amendment only applies to African-Americans and that it does not, in fact, apply to women, LGBT people or other minorities.
That’s the Scalia argument. Coulter and Scalia are people who talk about “original intent.” I’m not sure if they determine intent by conducting seances.
This is just a sad and bizarre story – the owner of the company that makes Segways dies while riding one.
The multi-millionaire businessman, 62, fell into the River Wharfe while inspecting the grounds of his North Yorkshire estate on a rugged country version of the Segway.
The Segway is a motorised scooter which use gyroscopes to remain upright and is controlled by the direction in which the rider leans.
A passer-by found Heselden alongside his Segway in the Boston Spa area at about 11.40am on Sunday.
A spokesman for West Yorkshire Police said today: “Police were called at 11.40am yesterday to reports of a man in the River Wharfe, apparently having fallen from the cliffs above.
Apparently Jimi Heselden gave a lot of money to charity. Condolences to his friends and family. He had just taken over the company at the beginning of the year.
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Smashmouth politics from Alan Grayson. Watch the ad, then watch the news video.
I still like the line from Robin Williams – “why can’t gay people marry – and be miserable like everyone else?”
Coulter is an idiot – it does not matter how many people vote for or against something – certain things are guaranteed by the Consitution (life, Liberty and the persuit of happiness) equal rights is one of those things.
the Constitution was constructed exactly so that MOB RULE or the VOTE of the people could NOT ever change those basic precepts – because the Founders where lawyers (execpt for Franklin) and actually knew the mousetrap they where building.
They saw what MOB RULE did in France and where determined that we NOT repeat that.
that is why we where not set up as a DEMOCRACY – we are a Representative Republic
These tea bag idiots are just that – idiots with no deep understanding of the crafting of our form of government – they think that just coz we vote – the popular vote changes things….duh!! reason why Gore lost to Bush – the Electoral college over-ruled the popular vote…..on basic liberties and constitutional guarantees the popular vote means nothing – unless they repeal an ammendment – and they can do that only by creating a new one – but even that does not change the Constitution….why is that concept sooooo difficult to understand
Its called the “rule of law” and I really wish they would get a grip and try to understand what that means.
Coulter is an idiot too – she obviously forgot that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 extended the 14th ammendment to way more than black Americans….
try reading Hernandez v Texas (lady) SCOTUS 1954 and get a grip……..
what is starting to scare me is that I’m more intelligent and I’m better educated on these issues than these talking heads – and I didn’t even grow up in this country.
Orlando FLA has Taliban Dan
now the Gay GOPers have Taliban Ann
nice……..
More from Grayson. Wingnut hornet nest explodes:
hotair.com/archives/2010/09/25/new-alan-grayson-ad-my-draft-dodging-gop-opponent-doesnt-love-america-like-i-do/
redstate.com/absentee/2010/09/27/alan-grayson-hates-america/
how is that any different from the way GwB won his first presidential election? Wing nuts don’t seem to be able to take what they dish out.
It is why corporations prefer that we keep going through Christine’s panty drawer than pay any attention to what is actually going on:
“The Left Right Paradigm is Over: Its You vs. Corporations”
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/09/you-vs-corporations/
Coz what is in her panty drawer has way more value than what is in her head
OR
at least her panty drawer has something in it – which is more than I can say for what is in her head
you pick which suits best
More from Obomba’s Police State of America: “Broad new regulations being drafted by the Obama administration would make it easier for law enforcement and national security officials to eavesdrop on Internet and e-mail communications like social networking Web sites and BlackBerries, The New York Times reported Monday.”
“The Times said the Obama proposal would likely include several requires:
-Any service that provides encrypted messages must be capable of unscrambling them.
-Any foreign communications providers that do business in the U.S. would have to have an office in the United States that’s capable of providing intercepts.
-Software developers of peer-to-peer communications services would be required to redesign their products to allow interception.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100927/ap_on_hi_te/us_internet_wiretaps
OH MY – that upsets you??? I though your ilk were all for “national security?”
and BTW – the biggest loss of our liberty and privacy was under Bush – remember that little thing called the “Patriot Act”
yep – well… if Obama didn’t do it your side whines “he’s soft on national security” , he does do it you whine “he’s taking our liberties and cry POLICE STATE!!”
So no matter what happens you all are gonna whine – at least get a good cheese to with it…..
On 9/16 I posted this comment:
I think that’s pretty accurate because I just saw a top member walk by with a Colin Bonini shirt.
Clinton tried the same thing with the Clipper chip. Bottom line: If you need to encrypt something, do it yourself and don’t trust commercial products or service providers.
I’m sure the gay conservatives were expecting a man to address them, oh, wait, they had Ann Coulter, the only “woman” with an Adam’s apple.
She’s a _ _ _ _ (you can fill in the blanks as you wish).
Im not sure the personal pronoun “she” applies to Ann Coulter
that Adam’s apple can bob and weave like nuttin I’ve ever seen…
a bit off topic here,
im home sick today and mainlining MSNBC. A commercial came on.. looked like a New York Life commercial, or maybe a car. I didnt know because there were no brand or affiliation signs. It goes on with pictures of family and flags and narriation like
“today millions of Americans unable to go to work, this many will be foreclosed on, so many with yada… 28 men and women will be married by the end of this commercial….” typical car/insurance pitch.
THEN it gets into “under the leadership of President Obama, our nation is weaker, and our future is dimmer. HE had a grand experiment that failed and now, we are worse off than before. This fall vote for a smaller, more caring government.”
At no point was there an sponsor mentioned. By narration, or on screen print.
creepy.
non-party/campaign specific affiliated 527 PAC probably…
but…you’re right …creepy
a. price – BTW – get well soon!
Have we seen this? The Village Voice has still got it — The Best Headline Of The Year
COD may have had a point, except it wasn’t the one she was trying to make. I was listening to WDEL this morning in the car, and I swear one of the people calling in to Al had just morphed from a monkey into a man about 20 minutes before he placed the call. Sometimes I do have to feel sorry for Al.
Ann Coulter takes a speaker fee.
So the gay conservatives actually paid her to offend them.
that’s OK – the British did the same with Irish writer/playright Oscar Wilde…its a tried and true Blueblood game
ever read Lady Windemere’s Fan – perfect example
and it was all good until they found out he was gay…..and had an affair with the Marquis of Queensbury’s adult son – – you know the guy that wrote the original rule book for Boxing
didn’t look good for the son to be gay so who paid- Wilde
so – Coulter better watch out based on that titbit of useless history
Yee-ouch!
I bet that felt good.
Karma.
Lesson for Edwards: Don’t mess with the Big Dog. That is all.
Does anybody else think that DP.net has become unreadably boring?
I’ve always thought DP.net was unreadable. Now it’s boring & unreadable?
Obomba 2010 = Custer’s disastrous decisions at Little Big Horn 1876
“The Obama administration’s repeated low estimates of the huge BP oil spill undermined public confidence in the government’s entire cleanup effort, leaders of a White House-appointed commission declared at an investigatory hearing Monday. One likened the mistakes to Custer’s disastrous decisions at Little Big Horn.
Federal officials botched the government’s response, a local official and government and university scientists contended as the commission focused on the questions of who was in charge and how much oil spewed out of the well into the Gulf of Mexico.”
I am waiting for all his defenders…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100927/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_response
Well, at least the comments used to be pretty funny. Now they are banning and moderating commenters that they deem to be uncivil. I haven’t seen any of Jason’s bon mots lately, so maybe he has been banned.
Oh. I had to swear off propping up that festering chicken coop with my bon mots.
And here I was all ready to turn you into a martyr.
And here I was all ready to turn you into a martyr.
Get in line 🙂
What will you lose if the Republicans win in November? – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qIbpGS5Ms8&feature=player_embedded
MJ, I get that and I agree. But it is the lefty version of the politics of fear. Just like when the President says that “Well, if you think we are bad, the Republicans will be terrible.” That is all true, it just isn’t that inspiring. I don’t think it gets people to the polls the way an affirmative, uplifting message does.
A1, Speaking of martyrdom guess who doesn’t have to do his nude march down main street – because a certain man pantless loser never ran for the US Senate?
That’s right. Christine commuted my sentence.
Fact is, under Obomba, the President can choose to have you secretly killed or imprisoned without charges or trial. It doesn’t matter who or what you are. Local and State police are torturing citizens virtually at will. And we have more people in prison than anybody else.
So while you’re thinking the fight is about Gay rights, let me tell you, it isn’t anymore. It is about fighting the Corporate Police State of America that has taken away everybody’s civil liberties. Would republickins be less benign than democrats? Yes, but a benign dictatorship is still a dictatorship.
Sorry, Jason, you don’t get out of it.
Very lame, Jason. Castle ran and he lost. You bet that he wouldn’t run (period). Of course, I said that if he ran, he would win.
Yeah, U.I.!!!!!!
Christine commuted my sentence.
Your sentence?
You’re right A1, Jason was double wrong. We have to make sure this nude run occurs on the coldest day of the year.
Funny, my previously allowed post that said “And here I was all ready to turn you into a martyr.” is now awaiting moderation. Wassup wit dat?
You guys have no case. Unless he runs a write in campaign, he will not have run for the US Senate. I said her would not run and as of today he is not running for the US Senate.
I realize it is a technicality, but technicalities count. I never said he wouldn’t run to be the Republican nominee.
Jason, I think we should just show continuous pictures of Speaker-in-Waiting Orangeman 24/7 – that should scare people to vote.
BTW, did anyone catch a story about him having an affair with a lobbyist?
“Speaker-in-Waiting Orangeman” LOL! Yep. Pretty scary.
More creeping corporatism: “Anger as a Private Company Takes Over Libraries”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/business/27libraries.html
Yeah, MJ, did you see the weekend open thread?
Not sure what’s going on with your comment A1. I saw it before!
Don’t be a weasel, jason: http://www.castleforsenate.com/
I am laughing your case out of court.
weasal: some pathetic type that always tries to hard and always fails in his/her quest in life. also can be seen as a useless creature good for nothing.
“damm man that weasaly bitch flopped again.”
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weasal
This isn’t politics, but WTF is with all these high fashion models now that wear a continual look of surprise?
That happens when thoughts pop into their brains.