David Anderson is an evil Socialist Conspirator.
I cannot wait until the showdown between Crazy Eileen and David Anderson. This is what the Dover City Councilman had to say today:
How much time do we want to spend on the birth certificate issue? Iowa, Arizona and Georgia all seem to have Republicans following the Obama distraction. Don’t Republicans know that the birth certificate issue is a rope a dope from the Obama Administration to distract and diminish Republicans? It is no question that he is a natural born citizen (which means he was either born here or at least one of his parents was). The Constitution does not say native born (born on our soil or in U.S. jurisdiction) so what difference does it make if he was born in Hawaii or Kenya (the evidence says Hawaii). This is just a trick to keep us from talking about the assault on the economy, family, and the constitution. Don’t fall for it.
The issue is not where he was born. The issue is what type of country is he leaving for those just born.
I would give Mr. Anderson credit for showing some true courage in speaking out against his insane racist base, but alas Mr. Anderson (I feel like I am in the Matrix saying Mr. Anderson all the time) feels the need to spin a new conspiracy theory: that the Administration and the Obama campaign are the ones setting this trap for the good and noble conservative out there who just opposes the President over policy.
Mr. Anderson, since when did President Obama force Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett play games with Hawaii’s time?
Mr. Anderson, since when did President Obama force Arizona Sheriff Joe Arapiao to waste millions on “an investigation” into the birth certificate?
Mr. Anderson, since when did President Obama force racist Republicans across this country to believe this conspiracy theory?
Mr. Anderson, it is time you wake up to the fact that the majority of your party is just batshit insane and/or racist. It’s one or the other, and sometimes both, actually always both, since you do have to be insane to be a racist anyway. Your party just cannot accept the fact that a black man is President. His skin color makes him automatically illegitimate. His skin color gives him no right to call himself President. His skin color gives him no right to issue orders or sign laws. That is what they believe. But they cannot say it. Some do, but most have been socialized enough in our culture to know that society considers racism to be bad. So they hide behind birtherism.
And notice how the goal posts have changed over time, Mr. Anderson? First it was show us your birth certificate. A question never before asked of any presidential candidate, even of those who really were born outside this country (i.e. John McCain). So Obama showed them the birth certificate he had. Which is the same computer printout version we all have. A short form version. But that was not good enough.
Next it was show us the long form version. President Obama did that.
Then some claimed it was a forgery. Forensic experts hired by Fox News of all places prove that it is not.
Some still hold onto to notion that it is a fake. Others have moved the goal posts to something they can win on, but which is irrelevant: that Obama’s father was never an American. Yes, now some birthers are claiming the Constitution forbids citizenship and service as President if one of your parents is not an American citizen. Since these conservative birthers are of course strict constructionalists when interpreting the Constitution, then lets read:
Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Yeah, it says nothing about having both parents being Americans as a requirement of citizenship. Maybe conservative birthers can’t read. That is a very likely possibility. Seriously though, if the debate is over what defines “natural born citizen,” since it is not defined in the Constitution and thus open to interpretation (OMFG, we can interpet the Constitution???? I thought that was illegal in Teabagglandia), then the Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth”, including any child born “in” the United States, even to alien parents, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.
So since the President was born in Hawaii (American soil) to an American citizen, he is a natural born citizen. But the above finding seems to indicate that even if he was born in Kenya to an American citizen, he would still be an American citizen. If that is true, then what the frack has all this conspiracy theory been about anyway?????
It’s been about the fact that the President is black.
That is all.
If President Obama had been born in Virginia to Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings, racist Republicans would think of something else, because the reason they hate him, the reason they view him as illegitimate, is because he is black.
So for you, Mr. Anderson, to blame your party’s racism on President Obama, is beyond the pale. You should be ashamed of yourself and your party. It’s like the abusive husband blaming his wife for the fact that he abused his wife.
Isn’t that the standard Republican response to all their screw-ups when they get called out and can no longer deny them? – “Democrats made us do it.”
Like Republicans need any help to be cuckoo.
Absolutely right. It is racism that has caused the uproar over his birth certificate. Some people just can’t abide the idea that a black man is the legitimate President of the United States. And it is racism that underlies a lot of the Tea Party extremism.
Blaming the Obama Administration is ridiculous, but I think we can all recognize that our media loves to watch a trainwreck, so they are all too often happy to give birthers more attention than they deserve, and it’s definitely a distraction from the mistakes that have been made and exacerbated by all of our recent presidents.
Every civil rights law from 1864 to 1964 …Republican endorsed and Democrat fought against. Who tried to stop school integration? Liberals….who fought for it? Conservatives.
@t “Every civil rights law from 1864 to 1964 …Republican endorsed…”
And that party has little similarity with the GOP today. Eisenhower would be shocked at today’s mess of a GOP. Back then, the GOP was chock full of liberals and blacks.
@t “….who fought for it? Conservatives.”
Conservatives fought for civil rights? Yea. A few conservatives were there. A precious few, like LBJ.
tidewater are you serious? The 1964 Civil Rights Act was based on legislation started by Eisenhower. That would be the same Eisenhower who established the ANWR as an untouchable, pristine legacy to future generations. You know the ANWR, right? That’s the piece of land in Alaska that today’s Republicans want to turn into an oil field.
And stop confusing “conservative” with “Republican.” Republicans in the 1850’s were abolitionists, they were considered radicals. THEY were the “liberals” trying their crazy social engineering experiments that would tear down the fabric of society and send us all to Hell. The same goes for Republicans in the 1960s who fought for civil rights.
The Republicans of the past who were environmentalists, abolitionists, suffragettes, and racial integrators wouldn’t make it past a primary in today’s Republican party. Barry Goldwater thought that gays should be able to serve openly in the military. He would be flushed from his state party leadership in today’s GOP.
If the Republican Party of today was anything like the Republican Party of the 1850s or 1960s, they would be FIGHTING FOR GAY RIGHTS. Period. End of story.
What Tidewater is doing is following orders from the conservative hierarchy that were issued this week to engage in revisionist history regarding the civil rights movement.
But like most Republicans and conservatives, Tidewater is exceedingly stupid. Because he confuses the terms liberal with Democrat, and conservative with Republican.
The truth is liberals were always for civil rights, throughout history. Conservatives were always against it. And that remains true to this day. What has changed over the years is that liberals and conservatives have changed, but that the political parties have. In 1860, the Democrats were divided into two parties, the Northern Democrats and the Southern Democrats. The liberals were in the north, the conservatives in the south. Guess which ones wanted civil rights? This division also came to exist in the Republican party as well in the late 1800’s.
Both parties had their liberal wings and their conservative wings. In 1948, Strom Thurmond began the exodus of conservative Democrats from the Democratic Party when the Democratic Party called for civil rights for African Americans. This exodus was completed in 1965-65 when President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act.
Guess where all these racist conservatives went/
The Republican Party.
Guess where they still are today?
The Republican Party.
Guess what act the Republican Party wants to repeal today?
The Civil Rights Act.
“Who tried to stop school integration? Liberals….who fought for it? Conservatives.”
That’s not rewriting history. That’s reading it upside-down.
If the guy is going to try and parrot Fox News talking points, he needs to pay closer attention to the broadcast. You can’t drunkenly shoot your shotgun from the front porch at hogs rooting in your garbage pile, while trying to memorize talking points.
Conservatives by definition want to conserve tradition. If conservatives fought for civil rights, they wouldn’t be conservative. Liberals embrace a set of principles and support changes based on those principles. Of course it gets more complicated when conservatives are working out of the liberal tradition (i.e., moderate Republicans). But of course, they are the ones being driven from the GOP, as right-wing extremists (racists, patriarchalists, conspiracy theorists, militia supporters, anti-Muslim bigots, xenophobes, proto-fascists, etc.) take over the GOP.
I guess with all the GOP’s current efforts to disenfranchise minorities through voting restrictions, I forgot to honor civil rights hero, Gerald Ford.