Sunday Open Thread [6.10.12]

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1. Jason330 says:

   June 10, 2012 at 3:34 pm

   That’s pretty spot on.

2. Republican David says:

   June 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm

   What do you want cheap health care and rationing? Do you really want silly labels trying to explain irradiation which would keep you safe? Don’t farmers have a right to decide what to do with their own property? Isn’t keeping our own money better than letting the government tax it, waste half of it then give us benefits on the rest? Does it really matter if a particulate is on part per billion or one part per two billion if it costs 10k times more to make a meaningless improvement in air or water quality? Should I be taxed to pay for art almost no one wants? Aren’t trees crops to be managed instead of left to burn down and disrupt the environment in the process?

   It pretty much makes sense why people don’t like your utopia. It only works in the land of nowhere.

3. Aoine says:

   June 11, 2012 at 12:56 am

   “Does it really matter if a particulate is on part per billion or one part per two billion if it costs 10k times more to make a meaningless improvement in air or water quality? ”

   yes – David – it DOES! and if you doubt that look a FDNY firefighter in the face, one with lung cancer struggling to breathe and ask them the same question

   that is if you are shameless enough to.

   OR – ask that question of a Vietman era vet sprayed with Agent Orange.

   I bet the Dover City Firefighters (especially the Hazmat folks) will be soooo delighted to see how much you care about them.

4. puck says:

   June 11, 2012 at 6:56 am

   One thing haunts me about the Republican proposals lampooned by this cartoon: Will they actually produce more jobs?

   I can imagine a three to five-year meth rush of economic activity that would seem to validate the GOP policies, which is basically what Reagan benefited from. But like Reagan, we’d end up with bigger deficits and intractable poverty. Would voters understand the difference, or would the takeaway be that “Trickle-down and deregulation works?”

   And we’d need to find a new American-Indian guy for those commercials where he paddles down a polluted waterway and sheds a single tear. Oh wait – no, there wouldn’t be any public funding for the commercials this time.

5. kavips says:

   June 11, 2012 at 10:24 am

   Answer to David:

   What America wants, is anyone who benefited from running up the debt, who benefited from destroying the economy, who benefited at the expense of 99% of the rest of our nation, to ante up, undo the damage with their winnings, and get us started on an even playing field again.

   It is no different than a football game with the score, 100 to nothing. Wealthy on top. The game was over long time ago, but Republicans are extending the game by taking all their time outs..
   It’s over. Time for a new game.

   Ideally, every penny of income over 10 million, capital gains or earned, should be taxed 100%. That’s fair, you made that money by deficit spending, you all should bear most of the cost of paying it back. When the national debt returns to 0 (it is only two years!) we can go back to a self sustaining rate. My calculations say keeping money at 60/40 is the best.

   The damage of all of this, is no different to the wealthy than our last recession. Meanwhile the rest of the economy booms. Wealthy lost money in 2008. They lost money in 2009. Two years.. At least this way, they don’t lose money.. They just don’t make any…

   For just two years? That is so fair.

   That is what America wants. Are you ready for it? It is coming, and there is nothing Republicans can do about it. Question is, just how bad it will be, depends on how long you hold out…. and run the score up…

6. Republican David says:

   June 11, 2012 at 11:55 am

   Wow,a real live socialist. Ideal to whom, Marx? This would be affront to capital creation and growth not an aid to it.

   Ideally, every penny of income over 10 million, capital gains or earned, should be taxed 100%. That’s fair, you made that money by deficit spending, you all should bear most of the cost of paying it back. When the national debt returns to 0 (it is only two years!) we can go back to a self sustaining rate. My calculations say keeping money at 60/40 is the best.

7. puck says:

   June 11, 2012 at 12:03 pm

   “This would be affront to capital creation and growth not an aid to it.”

   I take it as more a mental exercise than an actual policy proposal. The point is that an extreme affront to capitalism and growth has already occurred, and extreme corrections are morally if not economically justified.

   In reality a modest increase in investment taxes would be sufficient to restore growth and repay the looted money over ten or more years, not two years. I’d even be fine with keeping the Bush top marginal rate as long as dividends and capital gains were restored to the pre-Bush levels. You know – back when times were good.