GOP Shutdown Open Thread, Day 2

Filed in National, Open Thread by on October 2, 2013

Jason pointed us to this interview of Robert Costa of the National Review by Ezra Klein. I have been following Costa for the very latest reporting inside the Republican House caucus, and his reports have been some of the best:

EK: How much of this is a Boehner problem and how much of this is a House Republicans problem? Which is to say, if Boehner decided to retire tomorrow, is there another House Republican who has enough trust and allegiance in the conference that he or she could manage the institution more effectively?

RC: What we’re seeing is the collapse of institutional Republican power. It’s not so much about Boehner. It’s things like the end of earmarks. They move away from Tom DeLay and they think they’re improving the House, but now they have nothing to offer their members. The outside groups don’t always move votes directly but they create an atmosphere of fear among the members. And so many of these members now live in the conservative world of talk radio and tea party conventions and Fox News invitations. And so the conservative strategy of the moment, no matter how unrealistic it might be, catches fire. The members begin to believe they can achieve things in divided government that most objective observers would believe is impossible. Leaders are dealing with these expectations that wouldn’t exist in a normal environment.

Politico: “A harsh reality began setting into Capitol Hill on Tuesday: The U.S. government may not reopen until the two parties reach a deal to raise the national debt ceiling. Indeed, if the standoff continues to creep toward the Oct. 17 deadline to raise the $16.7 trillion national debt ceiling, the two issues will become intertwined — and potentially intractable. House Republican leaders and top Senate Democrats privately began discussing this increasingly likely possibility Tuesday, but the two sides have yet to engage in any direct negotiations in the acrimonious budget dispute.”

More Robert Costa:

“The same question keeps popping up: Why doesn’t Speaker John Boehner just pass a ‘clean’ continuing resolution to fund the government? It’s a ubiquitous query at the Capitol, and it was asked many times this afternoon as House Republicans left their closed-door conference meeting. But most Republicans, when pressed by reporters, rolled their eyes. They know what Boehner knows: A clean CR has never been an option…”

“Instead, the leadership is digging in for an extended impasse with Senate Democrats. Based on my latest conversations with insiders, their plan isn’t to eventually whip Republicans toward a clean CR and back down after a few days of messaging the shutdown, as some have believed; it’s to keep fighting, and, in the process, preserve the House GOP’s fragile unity — and maybe, if they’re lucky, win a concession from Senate majority leader Harry Reid.”

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  1. Jason330 says:

    So… an Oct. 16 executive order raising the debt limit and reopening the government? I’m totally down with that.

  2. Nuttingham says:

    Has anyone tried to get Delaware Republicans on the record over this? Do they back the Speaker? Should the state pull the plug on the new exchange?

  3. Jason330 says:

    I haven’t heard a peep out of the DE GOP since Charles Lamot du Pont Copeland took over.

  4. Nuttingham says:

    They show up occasionally to cast stones at local Democrats. But this would be a chance to pin them down on what their actual agenda would be if given the chance to govern.

  5. jim center says:

    Just tried to call our congress critters, here’s what happened:
    Carper, I fear he would cave on any repub “compromise” before our other reps; the message said regrettfully the government was shutdown and they could not answer the phone. If it was an emergency, I was given the option of leaving a message.
    Coons, an extended message by the senator decrying the shutdown and giving the option of leaving a message. When I called back to clarify the message, one of his staffers answered and we had a great dialogue at the end of which the staffer spoke of the Senator’s frustration with the process unfolding. Hang in there Sen. Don’t let the bastards grind you down.
    Carney, the same out of office message I would get if I called his DC office at midnight on a Friday( not that I would know what that message was; how about I change to “the same message I would get if I called at 5:03 on a Friday”?)

  6. jason330 says:

    Jim – You are right about Carper. If there is some “bi-partisan statement” in the next few days it will be the Republican caucus plus Carper. I just read on the WWDE page that he is looking for a “compromise” or in other words longing for Reid to fold his hand.

  7. liberalgeek says:

    If any of them fold, I will make a point of showing up at the J&J dinner just to walk out when they start talking.