John Kasich Shows How They Think They’ll Get Away With Cutting Social Security
Watch this clip of Kasich speaking about Social Security at an interview in New Hampshire recently:
Got that? Kasich asks the audience if they even know what their benefit is going to be when they retire. Then he asks if people would be bothered by a smaller benefit in order to save the program. Did you see what he did here? By trying to show that people don’t even know what their SS benefits are, he asks this audience if they would take less of this unknown for the health of the program. The person who would be bothered by a lesser benefit is then told that “they’ll get over it”.
This is the stance of a politician who isn’t much interested in either Social Security or the folks who will need it, but of a politician who will be working at making sure that wealthier people will not be bothered by the need to make sure that this program still works for Americans. So while Kasich (widely discussed as the sensible one of the current conservative clown car) is out and about making the case for why Americans should vote for him, he is straight out telling these voters that he has no intention of representing their interests.
Tags: GOP Bamboozlement, Social Security
Like Obama did with our healthcare.
Um, no. We already get you are a moron, do have any serious reason for reminding us of that at every opportunity?
@Anon “Like Obama did with our healthcare.”
Oh… Did you like your fake health insurance?? Do you want it back?
Insurance is only real insurance if it ACTUALLY insures something… and can’t be dropped the minute something goes wrong… and can’t be nickled and dimed with arguments of pre-existing conditions.
Cutting and replacing a fake benefit program is not the same as cutting a real one.
Remember, this is the one portraying a grown-up in the campaign.
LE: I’ll take my affordable health insurance back anytime! The insurance that MY Doctor makes the decision about MY health, than someone in some office that has never seen me. Now, the Doctor has to write a letter or call to explain, their reasoning behind the decision.
Meanwhile the people who will need social security the most, uneducated lower class whites ironically vote for the people who want to take it away just to satisfy their primitive racial and religious resentments
Get real, Anon.
Or maybe you don’t have much experience with health insurance.
Prior authorizations and requiring patients and providers to appeal the denial of claims have been standard practices within the industry for at least a generation. Obama didn’t invent those rules, and Hillary Clinton didn’t either. It’s all about the insurance companies not wanting to pay out for the benefits written into their own policies.
“The insurance that MY Doctor makes the decision about MY health, than someone in some office that has never seen me. Now, the Doctor has to write a letter or call to explain, their reasoning behind the decision.”
This has been standard operating procedure for health plans for decades. Perhaps you now have an idea of what the rest of us are dealing with and would consider joining in and advocating for universal insurance with a government option?
I’m also curious about Anon’s previously ‘affordable’ insurance. If anon is a relatively health individual, and did not require any prior authorizations or approvals for anything then his/her employer was paying for one of the infamous “Cadillac” Health Plans. And now, like many other employers, is using the ACA and Obama as scapegoats and bought a much cheaper plan that shifts costs to employees.
THANKS OBAMA!
-OR- and I think this is just as likely, Anon had crap insurance, didn’t use it much and never realized there were thousands of $ in out-of-pocket deductibles and co-insurance charges lurking around the corner just waiting for a catastrophic health event to strike to bankrupt him/her.
No joke Mediawatch, but when traditional procedures don’t work, they have to jump through hoops. Had a procedure that worked 3 years ago, now they had to go through a ton for it to be done again. WHY, because of the cost. My, Dr’s. said; “our hands are tied even more now, than before.” I’ve heard that statement multiple times. Hey, it took them years, to finally get ICD-10 to go thru. The money the government, made the Dr’s waste getting ready for ICD-10 multiple times was crazy. The money wasted for a failed sign up program is still being felt and on-going in many States. We could have all had free healthcare.
Devilishly advocating here Anon, that’s the way the current system is designed. It wants medical professionals to use the least costly effective treatment/medication/procedure (Profit margin$). It’s been that way for LONG time. ACA didn’t change that, nor did it force employers to contract a plan that required more prior authorizations. Doctor’s hands aren’t tied. OURS are. Because we aren’t necessarily able to afford the doctor’s preferred treatment on our own because it’s too expensive.
The insurance company denying payment for a procedure doesn’t physically impede the doctor from performing the procedure anyway. Your inability to pay for the full uninsured cost of services rendered creates that barrier for the doctor. And that barrier for us is created by the high costs of care which is driven up primarily due to insurance companies. Blaming Obamacare is probably the most useless argument ever, it band-aided the hatchet wound that is healthcare in the USA.
“We could have all had free healthcare”. It’s encouraging to hear you say that, because that is what we need, and it is what the ACA originally started out as, until it got eviscerated so it would pass the insurance company reps in Congress. Medicare should expand to all creating a government competitor to private insurers that will undercut the fees insurances charge forcing them to be competitive and normalize cost of care and (hopefully) cause private insurance to wither on the vine.
@anonymous: “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”
H. L. Mencken
@Brian, The Government run healthcare has done really well, just look at the VA. And, watch our taxes go sky high! In your world, we all should work for the government.
@Anon, the VA is currently an example of how not to run a public health service. Though I’d hypothesize that with additional support from the powers that be (looking at you, Congress) it would be fairing much better. Perhaps if we weren’t so eager to ship our men and women into combat zones, the VA system would have less strain on it. But I digress, Medicare though it has its own particular set of faults, is a functional healthcare system. It can stand to be improved upon and modified, but it’s functional and provides a core infrastructure to expand its scope to those <65 years old. It's interesting that you balk at the thought of taxes paying for healthcare.
The tax system is a separate entity that needs its own set of reforms. And in my world we can work on more than one thing at a time while we work for each other.