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Filed in National by on April 20, 2009

Do you think Republicans realize that their “Free Market” approach to the economy, combined with their monetary policies created the migration of all the people from Mexico and all the other Latin American countries  to this country?

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  1. nemski says:
    April 20, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    DV’s is trying to apply logic to Republican thought again. 😉

  2. edisonkitty says:
    April 20, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    I bet in less than five comments you will get a “Clinton did it” from the right – something about NAFTA. 5….4….3

  3. Unstable Isotope says:
    April 20, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I’m not sure if I agree with this. The immigration is caused by job opportunities in the U.S. combined with the lack of opportunities in Latin America and proximity. In fact, I’ve read that a lot of immigrants are leaving the U.S. since there are fewer opportunities here now.

  4. Donsquishydishimaharishi says:
    April 20, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    you don’t have to agree but then I get to call you a dumb ass and to stick to chemistry

  5. Unstable Isotope says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Go ahead!

  6. Donsquishydishimaharishi says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    I just did loser

  7. pandora says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Now, DV… be nice – or as nice as you can be! 😉

    Remember: We are not an echo chamber. And, just think, the next time we’re called one, you get to rescue this comment!

  8. cassandra_m says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    There is nothing free market about a bunch of industries who survive only because they can keep wages artificially low. There are immigrants going home because the construction market has pretty much collapsed, and some segments of the restaurant trade are hurting. But when your business model includes paying people as far below minimum wage as you can get — you pretty far from operating in a “free market”.

  9. Rebuild the Delaware GOP says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    President Obama has gone back on his campaign promise to renegotiate NAFTA. Do Free Markets work a bit?

    The biggest impediment to a country’s success is abusive and corrupt governments.

  10. cassandra_m says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    And the Shallow Bench speaks again.

  11. Unstable Isotope says:
    April 20, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    LOL Cassandra

    I totally agree Cassandra. The low-paying jobs proliferated during the housing bubble, which kept feeding it.

  12. Donsquishydishimaharishi says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    I didn’t say it was a real free market…I just said the free market they created

  13. Donsquishydishimaharishi says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Is it possible we are getting caught up on the WAGE too much. They came here because of the jobs and the wages were much higher than back home.

    So, they migrated to where the jobs were. Regardless if we consider them lower paying. They provided a better quality of life for the people that came here for the jobs.

  14. cassandra_m says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    I understand that, but there may not have been quite so many jobs for immigrants if they were paying a better and consistently legal wage than immigrants would take. If you can get away with paying an undocumented worker about $6/hour, why would you pay a legal $12?

  15. Donsquishydishimaharishi says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    I understand that, but our employment numbers were pretty low. We weren’t at full employment of course, however there was a demand for the jobs and the policies that resulted in the bubble and the subsequent policies set up by the R’s aided in that migration is what I’m trying to say

  16. Donsquishydishimaharishi says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    I think we are sort of both agreeing by the way. It was sort of a tongue and cheek description of “their” Free Market

  17. cassandra_m says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    We are agreeing, I think. And while employment numbers were low that we heard reported the U6 number was always about double that, meaning that there was certainly room for additional full-time employment for folks who had dropped out of that market. So a policy that largely looked the other way on immigration certainly did aid and abet the free market fakery.

  18. Unstable Isotope says:
    April 20, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Yes, I agree it was the housing bubble. I was hung up on the words “free market.”

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