Joe Klein Speaks The Truth
Via Balloon Juice.
To put it as simply as possible, McCain–and his cohorts–are trying to score political points against the President in the midst of an international crisis. It is the sort of behavior that Republicans routinely call “unpatriotic” when Democrats are doing it. I would never question John McCain’s patriotism, no matter how misguided his sense of the country’s best interests sometimes seems. His behavior has nothing to do with love of country; it has everything to do with love of self.
McCain’s, and other Republicans’, behavior is disheartening. I can only think they know nothing about our history with Iran. That, or they’re looking for an(other) International crisis. And for those who claim Obama’s words on Iran aren’t strong, firm, clear, etc. enough… please use the thread below to write exactly what you think he should be saying. You know, attempt to write something more than Obama sucks.
Can you imagine the enhanced level of our problems that we would have had McCain won?
And then we would have Palin too.
Oh my, perish these thoughts, immediately!
McCain’s upset over the deaths of those innocent Iranians solely because he didn’t cause it.
bomb, bomb, bomb….bomb my McCampaign.
Ooooh…that’s going to leave a mark.
I think it is pretty clear now that if we had a President McCain and a Vice President Palin, the apocalypse would have happened by now. Maybe that is what these right wingers want?
I am old enough to remember the days when Republican leaders like Howard Baker, Bob Dole and Jack Kemp actual put the country ahead of their party.
McCain is a hothead and I thank every deity I can think of every day that he did not become president. I remember his bloviating about the Russia/Georgia fighting. What good did it do? Not a damn bit of good.
Putting party above country does not seem like patriotism to me.
McCain was on C-Span and quoted Danial Webster whom he referred to as Senator Danial Webster to make a point. The only point he made was to let us all know why he finished at the bottom of his class at the USNA. Danial Webster was never a united states Senator. If it wasn’t for Daddy and Grandpa being Admirals he never would have gotten into Naval Air and gotten shot down.
Daniel Webster was a US Senator from Mass. He was also a US Rep in the House and Secretary of State I think. Sorry TT.
He also (I think) beat Lucifer in a trial, thereby saving himself from eternal damnation.
Like all stories involving the SATAN, that one was fiction. Mark Twain… 🙂
Didn’t Joey write Primary Colors?
Which country has been responsible for the most American deaths in the last thirty years ? Iran.
The president should and must speak up for freedom, liberty and open elections.
Mike Protack
Actually that answer would be the US itself Mike. but, facts might get in the way of your opinion.
You should have gone back 40 years, then the answer would have been…
oh wait…
Crap, 50
Dang!
wait, 60 years!
Mother f’er
go back 100 years!
SOB!
oh well, Let’s go back 200 years!
sigh
never mind
Looks like we are pretty good at getting ourselves killed more than the enemy (whoever it is supposed to be at the time) ever does
McCain wants fight, why is it always so easy for these old men to send out young……..
Typical Republican mentality – the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Heads up: Just because the Iranian people don’t like their government doesn’t mean they trust us. I realize how much you guys love the “good and evil” dance, but most things in life are complicated.
I’m confused. Iran caused what American deaths?
TT: Oops. Webster was officially named by the U.S. Senate in 1957 as one of its five most outstanding members.
DG: “The Devil and Daniel Webster” was good enough to do Mark Twain proud, but it was written by Stephen Vincent Benet.
Wow. Comment number 13 from Protack is just…I don’t know…”WTF” does not do it justice.
I’m just kind of speechless.
Alternate reality, Jason.
“The president should and must speak up for freedom, liberty and open elections.”
Coming from the country that brought you Florida 2000, wouldn’t that make us the laughingstock of the world?
Sort of the way Mike Protack is the laughingstock of Delaware.
It is just inconceivable that a man who consistently stood up for human dignity would continue to do so. There has to be some sinister motive.
I think the person who looks petty and political is Joe Klein. That is par for the course.
I’ll let Atrios answer that nonsense.
“To answer DougJ’s question, it’s because John McCain is a severe narcissist. He certainly doesn’t think he’s putting himself ahead of country, he’s just not really able to distinguish between the two.”
Watch and learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FrD9I8se0
As for 2000, we had court rulings and procedures. You folks did not like the outcome but in Iran there was no count.
Obama is the laughing stock of the world, weak and indecisive.
Mike Protack
He took narcissism lessons from Obama during the campaign.
Unfortunately for Klein, it is also the sort of behavior the Democrats (and folks like Klein himself) labeled as “Patriotic dissent” for the last eight years.
So you libs need to quit trying criticizing we on the right when we follow your example.
The Government of Iran doesn’t give a damn what Obama, or anyone else, says about their elections.
Yeah, but the people of Iran do care.
Yeah, but the people of Iran do care.
I suppose so. But, scores of protestors don’t necessarily reflect the national sentiment.
Remember the ’72 presidential election? Our mass media inundated the nightly news broadcasts with protests and demonstrations. People like Abbey Hoffman and Jane Fonda were granted de facto political status. The Democrats ran a fervent anti-war candidate, George McGovern. America was sick and tired of the war!
And Nixon carried 49 states.
Wow Protack, I’d like to see some of that shit you’d been reading saying that Obama is the laughing stock of the world!
Do you see now why we laugh at you so much? You may dislike his policies or even his persona, but to make a statement that flies in the face of all evidence that’s out there, just solidifies the fact that you’re a clueless and disingenuous hack.
You might have well ended your comment with:
“The moon is made out of bbq spare ribs”
It makes just as much sense.
Now you can say that Obama’s rhetoric about the Iranian election is not strong enough for your liking, and you’d like to see some sort of threat accompanying it. Ok, fine. But I’ll tell you that’s exactly what the Iranian regime wants to happen- for the opportunity to portray the West as meddlers, and this will stoke the passions that colonialism that has instilled over the past century. Now what you’ll have is a unified group of Iranian citizens under the flag of nationalism and self-determination. You see, the anti-establishment in Iran wants change (that much is obvious) but they want it through their own making, and not tainted or enabled through outside interference.
What you do see, from Iran, are calls to help expose the actions of the current government and to keep those actions at the forefront of world news. I don’t see calls for western intervention.
Nixon carried 49 states.
And resigned when facing impeachment for crimes committed by CREEP, his re-election committee.
Nixon: Republican Hero.