Monday Open Thread

Filed in National by on September 21, 2009

What’s on your mind?

I’ll start – this story caught my attention – Tom Coburn’s chief of staff spoke about “The New Masculinity” at the Value Voters Conference:

Schwartz then recalled “a very good friend” of his “who was in the homosexual lifestyle for a long time,” saying that he “had good conversations about, about the malady that he suffered.” He then relayed “an astonishingly insightful remark” his friend had made about the relationship between pornography and being gay:

SCHWARTZ: And one of the things that he said to me, that I think is an astonishingly insightful remark. He said, “all pornography is homosexual pornography because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards. Now think about that. And if you, if you tell an 11-year-old boy about that, do you think he’s going to want to go out and get a copy of Playboy? I’m pretty sure he’ll lose interest. That’s the last thing he wants.” You know, that’s a, that’s a good comment. It’s a good point and it’s a good thing to teach young people.

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  1. cassandra_m says:

    Good grief — everything is sex with these people. No wonder Red states are bigger consumers of porn than the rest of the country.

  2. Scott P says:

    What? Playboy is gay porn? Now I am confused! (Although I guess it kind of is if you are lesbian.) Mr. Schwartz –“homosexual”. I do not think that word means what you think it means.

    Much of what he said seemed to be “Stop people from turning gay” talk. Which, to be honest, is probably sound GOP strategy. I don’t think many LGBT Americans vote Republican reliably. If they could figure out how to keep people from turning black, Hispanic, educated, or not Southern, that would help, too.

  3. RICO says:

    Struggling Murtha Institute Exemplifies Congressman’s Sway

    The Washington Post ^ | September 21, 2009 | Carol D. Leonnig
    INDIANA, Pa. — The buzzer is broken at the John P. Murtha Institute for Homeland Security, and a paper note invites visitors, “Please knock.” On a summer afternoon, a lone intern answers the door of the mostly empty basement offices that over the years have overseen $50 million in federal funds awarded to projects designed to make the nation safer. Named for the chairman of the powerful Appropriations subcommittee on defense, who has shepherded most of its funding, the Murtha Institute was supposed to embark on projects to protect America from terrorists and clean up environmental dangers. Much of the…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
    dyn/content/article/2009/09/21/AR2009092101239.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2009092101465

  4. Progressive Mom says:

    Scott, he said exactly that. He went on to say:
    ” I know couples now who are struggling with the husband’s addiction to pornography. It’s a terrible thing. And that’s what happens. And, you know, if it doesn’t turn you homosexual, it at least renders you less capable of loving your wife.”

    This is a common theme in the “we’ll cure you of homosexuality” industry: you didn’t mean to become gay, but you got “inflicted.”

    It’s interesting watching these guys try to explain away the gay.

  5. edisonkitty says:

    An 11-year-old boy is as likely to go out and get a copy of Playboy as he is to frequent the salad bar at Bennigan’s. The internet is right there at home, without any pesky store clerk to confront him.

    The initial statement is so out of touch it just boggles the mind.

  6. Wasn’t Coburn the guy who said that lesbianism was so rampant in Oklahoma schools that schools wouldn’t allow girls to go to the bathroom in groups?

  7. Scott P says:

    UI — You might be right, and I think I saw that movie….wait, did I type that out loud….sorry.

    edisonkitty — Very good point, and one that I missed. I guess he’s worried they’ll steal the keys, jump into their brother’s jalopy, and pick up a copy on the way to the sock hop.

  8. cassandra_m says:

    And even then, the old school way to get a Playboy was to lift it from your Dad’s sock drawer or other hiding place.

    That’s how my brother got ’em!

  9. That’s it, Cassandra. When getting ready for the sock hop, the kids find the Playboy in dad’s sock drawer.

    Is Playboy really considered pornography? I would consider it more like burlesque…

  10. liberalgeek says:

    I suppose that that is how homosexuality is passed from generation to generation, through sock drawers.

  11. Joanne Christian says:

    Sock drawers? I thought it was the barber shop. That’s why all the salons are unisex now.

  12. John Manifold says:

    Mark Kleiman restates the case for increasing excise taxes on booze:

    http://www.samefacts.com/2009/09/health-care/us-healthcare-reform/it-should-have-been-obvious/