The RNC Pals Around With Conspiracy Theorists And Seditionists
According to the new rules that the Republicans made, any connection to discredited conspiracy theories means that one is not fit for government service. So, how does the RNC justify its connections to both World Net Daily, the main pushers of the birther conspiracies, and Newsmax, who publishes a weekly column by John L. Perry? (John L. Perry wrote the column calling for a bloodless military coup against President Obama, see here and here.)
Here is what the RNC said when Jon Henke, a conservative blogger with The Next Right asked them about their connections with World Net Daily:
After I argued that credible organizations on the Right should not support the conspiracy peddling of WorldNetDaily, it was pointed out that the RNC appears to have rented access to the WND email list. So I emailed the RNC to inquire about it and encourage them to stop.
My question was: “Is the RNC really renting the World Net Daily email list?” This was the response from the RNC Press Secretary:
Nice to meet you. Pls note that we have already weighed in on the birther issue — weeks ago. Thanks.
The Press Secretary then appended a NYT story in which this was their response:
“Chairman Steele believes this is an unnecessary distraction and that the president is a U.S. citizen,” said Gail Gitcho, a spokesperson for the Republican National Committee. “He wants to move on and continue talking about real and immediate issues that are facing our nation, like health care and the economy. Chairman Steele has other issues to take up with the president having to do with policy, not a birth certificate.”
Basically, Steele ducked the question. The RNC also gives money to Newsmax, and uses their mailing list for fundraising purposes:
Last month, the Republican National Committee used Newsmax’s email list — probably for a fee — to solicit donations and support.
Newsmax — which published (and later unpublished) a column saying it’s not “unrealistic” that there may be a “military intervention” against President Obama — names the RNC as “our sponsor” in the email, which is signed by RNC chair Michael Steele.
The message, addressed to “Fellow conservative,” asks readers to take a health care survey and contribute “$1,000, $500, $100, $50 or $25 to help support our efforts to combat the Democrats’ attempt to impose ‘Obamacare’ on all of us.”
Tags: Michael Steele, Republican Hypocrisy, RNC
You could make the same claim regarding our governor for having sat down with the likes of some on this site!
Yup, and President Obama’s “Green Jobs” Czar was a 9/11 truther, so it would appear your ilk is palling around with conspiracy theorists too.
But it’s ok for The Messiah right?
I think it’s interesting the way the right calls the president “messiah.” No one on the left does.
Is that because people on the right want to live in a theocracy and not a democracy? (There are a few available; they could move.)
But on topic, the RNC is already a stomping ground of birthers (Bachman, et al), separitists (Perry, et al) and wackos of all stripes. Starting with its chairman.
mike w. once again missing the point by miles.
D.C.,
You just made a serious allegation about contributors to this site. You need to back it up with evidence.
UI – in DC’s defense You folks have had some crazy ass, unsubstantiated theories about gun owners, right wingers etc. Not to mention the “all Republicans should be lined up and shot.”
PM – I wouldn’t know. I’m not religious nor a Republican. I use the term only to poke fun at how the left worships the man.
The left does not worship Obama.
mike and D.C. – you need to point to a conspiracy theory that the contributors have promoted that has been debunked or a case where contributors have called for a coup or other extralegal overthrow of an elected government. Not agreeing with what we say does not count as conspiracy theory or sedition.
I think calling for the political opposition to be “lined up and shot” is absoultely comparable UI.
And you would be wrong. Especially since that has been retracted and apologized for repeatedly. And there is not much conspiratorial about it and it certainly doesn’t qualify as sedition.
You can produce real evidence or you can more on to a real topic. Consider yourself cautioned.
Mike just wants to talk about guns again. Perhaps that’s what he worships?
There is a very good reason why the GOP cannot separate itself from nutjobs and conspiricy theorists — if it did, it would lose a sizable chunk of its already-diminishing voter base. Not to mention many of its elected officials.
Consider yourself cautioned.
Oooh… I’m sooo scared.
Anyway, guess you don’t like it when one of your own is lumped in with crazies huh? Of course I could also claim that you “pal around with” such people and support what DD said in that statement due to him being a contributor to this site.
That would have about as much merit as your claim that the RNC “pals around with Conspiracy Theorists and Seditionists.
You have as much involvement with DD as the RNC does with Newsmax or WND (more in fact). Does that mean you “pal around with” someone who calls for the murder of political opposition? (yes, I know he apologized and I accept that apology. I am using his outburst to make a point)
“Mike just wants to talk about guns again. Perhaps that’s what he worships?”
PM – You’re the only one bringing up guns in this thread.
You brought up guns first, mike. You also brought up worship.
No, no one on this site has ever advocated for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government or bought lists of people who advocate that for fundraising purposes. If you’re impying that DD’s hyperbole (since apologized for) constitutes sedition, you need a newer dictionary.
Anyway, guess you don’t like it when one of your own is lumped in with crazies huh? Of course I could also claim that you “pal around with” such people and support what DD said in that statement due to him being a contributor to this site.
This is not the evidence that was asked for. This is just some jailhouse wanking while you try to squirm out of that obligation. You can drop this now and move on to a topic that doesn’t work at impugning the writers here with no evidence whatsoever. This is your first warning.
I think there is a big difference between a single regrettable outburst or statement and a thought-out, long-held belief or ideology. If DD (or anyone) had made numerous statements over a period of time advocating the murder of political opponents, or if anyone thought he truly believed such an act was justified, I would hope he would be banned from this site (as well as monitored by authorities).
Since I don’t think he did, the comparison between someone who said one dumb thing and people who believe carzy, disproven theories (or who call for the overthrow of the government) is not a valid one.
But to get back on topic, I think it will take one more big election drubbing (either 2010 or 2012) to make some reasonable people in the GOP realize that getting too close to the loonies on their side might help with the base, but pushes them farther from the majority of voters.
Cass – You don’t like being criticized or lumped in with what others have advocated do you? How ironic. By the way master, how many warnings do I get?
Also, I have no obligation to you. You have a habit of making claims and then not providing evidence to back them up. You can accuse me of doing the same but it only shows your own hypocrisy.
UI & PM – Really? please, show me exactly where I brought up guns. Oh that’s right, I didn’t. I can if you’d like me to though.
I have to laugh that you folks bitch about this but not about Obama having a consipracy theorist as his “Czar.” Such hypocrisy, and an inability to criticize the left.
Also, I have no obligation to you.
That was petulant. And about what we’ve come to expect. But I think that we can all see that you can’t deliver on the evidence requested, but you’ll bluster away as if that substitutes. You can drop this now and move on to another topic. This is your second warning.
You must talk about gun so much that you didn’t notice that you mentioned them? Anyway, I’m done addressing you in this thread.
I have to laugh that you folks bitch about this but not about Obama having a consipracy theorist as his “Czar.” Such hypocrisy, and an inability to criticize the left.
There you go, that’s totally on topic and not petulant. Happy now Cass?
It sure is windy in here.
UI – the topic was unsubstantiated theories and I used the term “gun owners.” I didn’t talk about guns or the 2nd Amendment, I made a comment about the unsubstantiated theories thrown about by the DE Liberal crowd.
And the topic is still unsubstantiated theories and you still have not substantiated any that you’ve made or defended.
Bye!
(Because, of course, we could have guns without gun owners. Cuz, like, ya know, they grow on trees. By themselves. So saying “gun owners” isn’t “bringing up guns”…. they bring up themselves…)
Scott — One of my continuing problems with the MSM (especially all nightly news) is that it isn’t calling out the loonies as mainstream Republican leaders. This story on sedition was not covered last night by the three major networks (as far as I saw), much less being linked to the RNC.
And the stories that are being carried — like Rep. Fox and Bachman’s routine rantings — are being carried as if they are legitimate political discussion, instead of a display of loonies.
I can see voters being told by the RNC before they hit the ballot box: it’s all just coming from right wing commentators, like Rushie and Beckie, and not the party.
I think that’s where Rushie and company’s biggest asset is to the Republicans: it gives Republicans cover for their lies, insanity and treason. They can say, as some of them have, “those commentators are just entertainers; we’re much more serious about the issues.”
Of course, that, too, is a lie. But will the average person know?