Did Dems Ever Do This to the Bush Twins?
Oh, wait, Dems weren’t allowed in the clubs’ VIP rooms when the Bushies were cavorting.
Anyways, here’s what happened at Sidwell Friends (where the Obama girls go to school) this morning.
I am sure that the Quaker school took this message from the Westboro Baptist Church directly to heart:
“Quakers?! Are you frigging kidding me? You pretend to be all non-violent, and you allow the most bloody, deceitful, evil, murderous bastard and his shemale sidekick to place their satanic spawn within your four walls?”
Oh, and Randall Terry is planning to stop by to protest soon.
Classy.
Tags: Obama, Quakers, Religious Fanatics, Sidwell Friends
I have no tolerance for people who target children. Shemale? I’ve said my piece on that this morning. Satanic spawn? Don’tcha love how these guys care so much about children? And, of course, Terry will follow suit. He cares even less about innocent children.
More disgusting talk.
That shemale crack just highlights for me the issue that some conservatives have with sexuality. They are not comfortable with it. Why else would most their insults have to do with being gay or insufficiently (in their eyes) one gender or another? I hope they do realize that most of us care less than nothing what they think about our attractiveness or lack thereof.
That the GOP has made common cause with the Westboro freakshow speaks volumes.
You guys are begging on this one…and that’s really saying something.
“That shemale crack just highlights for me the issue that some conservatives have with sexuality.”
BEGGING!
Do not even attempt to classify this group as a conservative group. Conservatives have destroyed this guy and his church for their protests at military funerals etc.
Jason, go back under your rock. Didn’t Delaware Dem and Nemski etc. make it clear? This is their blog now. Beat it!
I’m not an advocate of violence, but, when it comes to Phelps and his family……………..
Gee, thanks for telling us who is and is not welcome on our blog, DC. We have long yearned for such sage advice from someone who is clearly our intellectual superior.
Rethugs have made common cause with the religiously-fueled hate machine for decades now. It’s pretty much all it has left. That and the racists and the gun nuts. And some eccentric men in pajamas from Chateau Country.
Maybe my memory is foggy, but weren’t all those Rethug ‘honorables’ crowding into the picture with Randall Terry when he was their ringmaster during the Schiavo ‘controversy’? And they’d embrace Phelps and his Traveling Circus of Hate as well if Phelps’ polling numbers trended upward.
There is no hatred too toxic for the Rethugs unless the polling numbers go, pardon the expression, ‘south’. And that is the sole remaining principle of the modern Republican Party.
“Conservatives have destroyed this guy….”
Well, hell, based on today’s news, you’ve done one heck of a job, Brownie!
Phelps and family are Democrats.
Yea, Lizard, that was clear from the “Obama is the Beast” sign they were holding….
Or was that you holding the sign?
/snark off
Fred Phelps – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to Democratic Party: Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor …
Education – Civil rights attorney – Disbarment
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Homocon: Democrats Hate Fags (Like Me) Aug 2, 2005 … Fred Phelps, registered Democrat, organizer of Democratic activities and fund-raiser for Al Gore and Bill Clinton, also criticized the …
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The Man Who Loves To Hate | Mother Jones Fred Phelps is dismissed by some. Those who really know him know better. … (He still calls himself a Democrat, refusing to change just because his party …
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Fred Phelps – Conservapedia May 5, 2009 … Phelps’s son, Fred Phelps, Jr., also served as a delegate for Gore. … Phelps ran for governor of Kansas as a Democrat in 1990, 1994, …
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inconvienent facts.
Some say that El Somnambulo’s 1:21 comment is the bomb.
Conservapedia…thanks for the laugh.
DC is correct in regard that Westboro/Phelps is not openly accepted by just about anyone except themselves and wild-eyed sympathizers. If a politician does support them, then get them the eff away from politics, asap. They have even been denounced by the Southern Baptist Convention, as highlighted by this writer. Westboro/Phelps are independent by their own choosing, as well as just about every known organizations’ choosing.
All that said, if these jack-holes have unaffiliated-to-them people joining them in this self-flatulating protest, then screw ’em all.
In the past two decades, one party has embraced racism, religious bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, and so much more as their party identity. One has not.
While both parties may be overrun by corporate corruption, there is a distinct difference between the two when it comes to tolerance and inclusiveness.
Calling Fred Phelps a Democrat is like calling Lyndon LaRouche a Democrat. It avoids the point that the Phelpses of the world would not exist or, at least, would not actually receive press, were it not an outgrowth of what the Rethugs have preached since Nixon, i.e. divide and conquer. With the election of a black man as President, this has been taken to an unconscionable level. The Rethuglican Party has enabled the Fred Phelps (and Glenn Becks, et al) of this world, and that’s the point.
I agree it’s all correct, Smitty, but notice how the Repubs don’t come here and condemn him: they just say “It’s not us!!! It’s you!!!”
Can’t even condemn them for going after little kids. Any little kids.
Shame, shame, shame.
there is a special place in hell for the entire congregation of the westboro baptist church http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html
caution: it is a VERY disturbing website
hmmm condem the shmucks we have been condeming for nearly 8 years or mock the libtards for suddenly discovering the Phelps clan and implying that they are republicans… not even close, I choose to mock.
Phelps, Code Pink, Kos Kids, all one big happy family.
These people are given their power because the media gives them free press time to air their wacky views. Might as well report every time the KKK or some Neo-Nazi group speaks out and says something ignorant.
It makes me proud to be a Delawarean that when these awful people showed up here we scared the crap out of them and ran them out of town.
This is kind of an unpopular opinion but I don’t really consider these folks republicans or democrats. They just latch onto whatever is newsworthy at the time (whether it be marriage, 911, soldiers funerals,the american flag and now obama) and use it to spew their revolting hatred of gay people. The are opportunistic hate whores.
Some things transcend politics and are just gross.
“Phelps, Code Pink, Kos Kids, all one big happy family.”
what does this even mean? Is English your second language?
David Shuster tweets:
And Shuster again:
Westboro Baptist is not in any way connected to the GOP or Christ.
It is a cult run by a former Al Gore delegate to the 1988 Democrat convention.
Still haven’t heard a Republican on this site condemn these acts.
Still waiting….
“Still haven’t heard a Republican on this site condemn these acts.”
I haven’t heard any Kansans on this site condemn this act, either. Or people named Fred. Or people named Phelps. Not that any of them are responsible or actually need to condemn something that has absolutely nothing to do with them.
You folks have yet to condemn your own side’s misogynistic attacks on Sarah Palin — including those you folks posted here. Why should I condemn these words or deeds of a group to which I have no connection in terms of faith or party, and which is led by a registered Democrat — a group which I have long been on record as opposed to the group and its disgusting actions?
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/162810.php
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/091455.php
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/109739.php
Then why do I have to condemn abortion? I haven’t had one, am not planning on having one, and don’t need to condemn something that has absolutely nothing to do with me.
Good to know that this is the Republican standard for condemnation.
Nice defensive mechanism there RWR. Do you condemn it or not?
“Then why do I have to condemn abortion? I haven’t had one, am not planning on having one, and don’t need to condemn something that has absolutely nothing to do with me.”
So don’t condemn it, then.
I’m long on the record as condemning this group and its unsavory actions. Nothing has changed.
Now tell me what you think about this situation.
Now I’ll concede that these kids are only the children of men and women in uniform (just like I was 40 years ago) rather than the offspring of privilege that attend Sidwell Friends, but I hope you might spare a little bit of your outrage for them.
Hold on, hold on. You realize, I hope, that we could bog down for all eternity finding examples of bad behavior that we each insist others condemn. This silliness was lampooned by Joseph Heller in “Catch-22” in “The Great Loyalty Oath” chapter.
“Still haven’t heard a Republican on this site condemn these acts.
Still waiting….”
Ok I’m a Republican and I’ll positively state that I condemn the cult like Westboro Baptist Church led by a former Al Gore delegate for a disgusting protest in front of the School attended by the young Obama girls. Personally, I think presidential kids should be off limits in general so I condemn them for that reason. However, this bunch has yet to do anything that I do not condemn. This cult group’s opposition to the Iraq War was the impetus for them to protest at the funerals of our fallen servicemen offering the cruelest and nastiest signage that makes their current protest look like a student council election campaign.
So in short I will condemn and have already condemned anything that this cult does. This is easy for me because Randall Terry and his crew have no association with the Republican Party. Of Course Randall Terry has had associations with the Democrat Party.
Randall Terry’s owning of an entire block where cult members are required to live is eerily reminiscent of the control exerted by another cult leader Jim Jones. Jones (the Purple kool aid guy) of course was intimately linked to the Liberal Democrat establishment of the Democrat Party in San Francisco. He was also a favorite of the Carters. He was quite proud of his picture taken with Rosalind Carter.
As an aside, I will definitely defend Michelle Obama as she is better looking than any shemale I have known (I will admit my experience here is very limited) In addition shemales can’t give birth. It seems the Westboro bunch lack a certain amount of basic biology knowledge.
RWR, the Republican standard as offered here is that if I’m not in it and not doing it, I don’t have to have “a little bit of (your) outrage.” However, I think picking on someone else’s little kids — for any reason — is shameful.
But your first response was to connect these right wing FlufferNutters to Al Gore. Not to condemn them or worry about the children. But to make sure you got a slam in on Democrats first, no matter how specious.
Your very first response says it all. It’s not about your high moral stance for the children being accosted by Pink Whatevers. It’s about linking right-wing FlufferNutters, in whatever dishonest and silly manner you can, to Democrats.
You have no outrage when the children are being attacked by right-wing FlufferNutters. Only when the attack is from the left do you have outrage.
Nice.
Well said, PM. It’s the classic “both sides do it” defense.
O — Please see my previous comment to RWR.
When you’ve got to bring up Randal (a darling of the anti-choice Republicans who loved his stance at Notre Dame this year)and Jones, who have nothing to do with this thread, it makes me wonder: What are you so worried about? Why go so off-topic in such a silly way?
When you’ve got to dig this deep to find an ad hominem attack against Democrats, you’re really desperate.
A bunch of FlufferNutters bully little kids at school, and you’ve got to use it to condemn Democrats.
Classy.
Wow, so all this indignation turned into who can blame each other further and better.
It was a FUCKING disgrace what this group did at that school and the hate they so often spew from the mouths attached to their evil-stricken heads. Who, honest to God, gives a rats ass what damned party they are? SERIOUSLY! Get the eff over that shit already and agree, which I think every commenter on this thread truly does, that Phelps, Westboro and anything willfully linked to them are opportunistic, self-glorifying asswhipes that truly couldn’t give a rat’s ass about heaven nor hell, so long as their world view is imposed on every living thing, from human to microbe.
STFU already about who is more to blame politically. THEY, THAT EFFING GROUP is to blame! Sheesus!
BTW — the question was never answered: Did Dems ever do this to the Bush twins?
Actually, PM, I’m pointing out that these are not Republicans — you know, since you folks were all hot and heavy to have REPUBLICANS disown them. I figured it was important to make the point that these cretins are not ours, and that your attempt to tie them to us was dishonest.
But beyond that, it ought to be presumed that decent people oppose the actions of the Fred Phelps Klan, just as we presume that decent people of all political stripes are opposed to burning a cross in the front yard of the new black family in town or painting a swastika on the local synagogue. That you sought to tie the deeds to Republicans again showed rank dishonesty on your part, and so it was important to point out the strong Democrat pedigree of these scumbags.
But my bona fides on this family cult are clear to see from my links. Nothing has changed in my attitude towards tehm — beyond, perhaps a deepening of my revulsion towards them and their tactics.
But interestingly enough, PM, you still find yourself unable to explicitly condemn this assault upon the children of our troops by your ideological soulmates. I’d have to say that speaks volumes, based upon your standard outlined above — as does the silence of the rest of the DL contingent.
OMFG…I give up. There is no hope so long as a partisan spin is in the offing.
Well, RWR I think that Code Pink thing is appalling and disgraceful. In fact, even in my earlier days, I’ve always been on record that I oppose the use of props like puppets and most so called ‘political theatre” or “guerilla theatre” because I think it’s WRONG to twist an art form that can be a comfort and a teaching tool, particularly for people with visual learning strategies, into an assault on them.
I’m deeply ashamed that anyone professing concern for our future would behave in such a way, and in as far as my goals may overlap theirs, I sincerely apologize. 🙁
I’m not a fan of Code Pink. That’s why I’m surprised that Republicans decided to adopt those tactics. I think that’s a decision that will haunt the party for a long time.
I condemn this entire thread.
“But your first response was to connect these right wing FlufferNutters to Al Gore. Not to condemn them or worry about the children. But to make sure you got a slam in on Democrats first, no matter how specious.”
Let’s be clear on one thing PM. El Som made this partisan in the original post. The original post is not one of condemnation. It is one of equivocation and taking something that has nothing to do with political parties and making it partisan, starting in the title.
Your scorn of the Republicans on the thread falls short of credible in light of those facts.
RWR, as usual, you chose to see only what you want. You missed this:
“However, I think picking on someone else’s little kids — for any reason — is shameful. “
As did you, PM. I had to go back and find my anti-Phelps posts.
And it isn’t my fault that Phelps is a Democrat.
Phelps is sui generis.
Orestes – Terry is actually a Republican and has run for office twice as a Rethug. Get your facts straight so we don’t think that you’re a complete idiot.
anon @ 7:23 is spot-on (look it up, anon is right).
In the meantime, the you-suck-more beatings continue.
🙄
Do you think a Dem ever did a Bush twin?
Okay. I’d like to ask everyone to stop, here.
I think if anyone really ASKS themselves whether they would be having this conversation in a well-lit room occupied by people we care about, the answer would be “no.” When we’ve gotten to speculation about the personal lives of non-elected strangers, the answer is “no.”
honestly.