PPP Teases: Coons Destroys O’Donnell.
PPP will not release their general election numbers until Wednesday (they are waiting on the primary results). But they have already teased some of the results.
In Delaware Chris Coons polls 26 points better against Christine O’Donnell than Mike Castle. Castle’s net favorability is 25 points higher than O’Donnell’s. That electability gap is even wider than what we saw a month ago when Castle did 20 points better against Coons than O’Donnell.
Now, from this teaser, I gather that their results shows Coons destroying O’Donnell in the general. While we do not yet have actual numbers from their pre-primary poll, if we use their August 10 polling results, where Castle lead Coons 48 to 35 while Coons led O’Donnell 44 to 37; it could mean that Coons is polling 61% of the vote in a general election matchup against Christine. That approaches Biden levels of support and success against O’Donnell in 2008.
Which just proves the point that Christine O’Donnell is unelectable in a general election in Delaware. And yet, the Delaware Republican Party appears ready and willing to sign its own death warrant in electing Christine O’Donnell as their nominee tomorrow.
I have never seen a self immolation before, but I imagine the 2010 Delaware Republican primary comes awfully close.
Question: As a result of O’Donnell’s surge, does Coons have a better chance no matter who wins tomorrow?
YES.
Even if Castle wins, its an even race now. Theyve done enough damage to make it a much easier race for Coons. They’ve brought Castle down about a dozen notches in the minds of voters. He’s no longer invincible. He’s vulnerable, feeble, barely able to put up a fight.
I mean, the logic seems to be clear, but the interesting thing to note is the inversion of the MSM narrative. In this case, the Teafolk and St. Sarah were overly hasty in bringing the express. It was anything but the carefully crafted, political supergenius meme that’s been going around since Miller beat Murkowski. Alaska we ain’t. I just don’t get how people could have made that mistake.
I agree. It is the ultimate sign of weakness for Castle if he can barely put away O’Donnell (which is now the best case scenario for him tomorrow night).
Castle’s brand is now damaged. He has never been faced with a credible Democratic challenger who got within 14 points of him. He never has faced a significant primary challenge from within his own party. These two facts have allowed Castle to appear above the fray and statesman like for his entire electoral career. It has allowed him to be the “nice guy.” It has allowed him to play both sides of the fence for so long — saying one thing on the campaign trail and doing another thing in D.C.
When Castle announced, I bet he already knew that Beau was not going to run. So he probably expected, as before, he would be able to coast on his unchallenged brand into the Senate.
@DelDem absolutely… and thats another sweetener for Coons winning against O’Donnnell…. the whole Biden debacle…
Sorry, but after how that “whole thing” went down, Beau will NEVER have my support for Senate.
Let Beau fight Jack and John for the next Senate race.
If Coons wins the Senate seat and Carney wins the House seat, then Biden will continue on as AG until 2014 at least. He may even run for a third term. He then could challenge Denn for Governor in 2016, or he could run for Lt. Governor. And this is assuming that Carper runs for reelection in 2012. If he retires in 2012, and that is a possibility, then a huge game of musical chairs will occur, as I think Markell will run for Senate, Denn for Governor, and Biden for Lt. Governor.
But as for Biden and his not running this year: Fortune favors the bold.
Prediction:
If Castle loses, he runs as an Independent (with the DE GOP backing)! That’s how much O’Donnell is hated.
Of course, if O’Donnell loses, she runs as an Independent too! But with the Tea Party Express’ help.
What ever happened to: I lost the primary, back the next candidate? It seems that every candidate who loses a primary wants to continue against the will of the electorate.
Del Dem – Do you really see Beau running for Lt. Gov, or even Gov? Joe went from NCCO Council to US Senate. The family powerbase (financial) seems more national than local. It also appears that the family tastes are more urban than rural, and let’s face it, this is the sticks. Someone opined on another thread that perhaps Beau is not interested in the family business. Can’t blame him for that.
In a different time and family, US Senator Harris McDowell was followed by his son State Senator Harris McDowell. But that was a different era and only time will tell with the Biden family.
Polemical, Castle cannot run as an Independent. He has already missed that deadline. All he could do is run a write in campaign like Christine did in 2002 or 2006 (she has run so often I have forgotten which race was which).
No way Castle runs as an Indy That would validate OD’s disloyaty charges.
2). From now on the Dem primary is THE election.
If Biden wasn’t interested in the family business he would have never run for AG in 2006. He wouldn’t be running for reelection now.
It’s too late for her to get on the ballot as an independent, isn’t it? If she loses, I wonder if, realizing their colossal mistake, Palin and the teafolk prevail upon her not to hurt Castle any more.
On the other hand, she got 10k as a write-in in 2006…and that can only go up given her newfound celebrity.
Hope Coon’s staff reads this post – if not someone get it to him:
look what I found – O’Donnell’s bush beater is a deadbeat financially as well…..
oh and well lookie here – O’Donnell’s flunkey evan does not pay his bills either:!!
SK08J-07-001 CYNTHIA BIDINOTTO-SLATE VS EVAN A. QUEITSCH DEFENDANT 01-JUL-2008 – he had to have his wages garnished coz he would not pay…..
Case: SN01C-10-083 ANGELA CUMMINGS VS EVAN A. QUEITSCH DEFENDANT 10-OCT-2001 – personal injury accident
58 MORIARTY STREET DOVER DE 19901
Case: J0702009416 CYNTHIA BIDINOTTO-SLATE VS EVAN A QUEITSCH DEFENDANT 02-FEB-2007 – he was evicted for non rent payment
so we have one non-bill payer supporting another thief – nice one……..
Good tea bag representation……
and hese are fiscal conservatives???
I just wonder what kind of strategy memos the Coons campaign is writing about a possible run against Christine O’Donnell. I’d love to be a fly on that wall.
I just wonder what kind of strategy memos the Coons campaign is writing about a possible run against Christine O’Donnell.
Well, he’ll need to get around to negative ads that hammer on her negatives but not being nasty about it. But first off Coons needs to define himself before tbagz do it for him. The tbagz shouting could implant an America-hating Marxist meme in two weeks or less.
Coons would have to anticipate specific attack ads and inoculate himself against them immediately before it is too late. Shouldn’t be too hard – it’s not like the tbagz don’t telegraph their punches. Expensive though.
Old-school Repubs would of course be horrified by O’Donnell on an individual basis, but I think the Establishment would get behind Christine. And by Establishment I mean banking money. Who would the banks rather have voting on regulation – Coons or O’Donnell? Remember, bank executives do not have souls.
We should be hoping Christine wins today…a win for Christine today, means a Coons win in November.
I know right now it looks like O’Donnell would be a gift. It probably would be. But there’s always a chance it could end like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UeHJtRqCtM&feature=player_embedded
Great clip. If she wins we will all have to our it on. This would be the Senate race to define a generation.
With enough spin, anything is possible.
As I write this Mike Castles ads dominate the radio, alternating attack ads and an “uplifting” message from Mike.You really have to laugh as the Tea Party has managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. If left alone Castle would surely have won and been a good little drone for the conservatives.As it now stands he’s damaged goods and O’Donnell remains an un-electable nut job. Regardless, the Tea Party Types will hold a grudge and not vote for Castle, having called him every name in the far right litany of hatred. As for scenarios were O’Donnell wins the general election I find them far fetched to say the least, this ain’t Alaska and the Tea Party is tiny here. And I admit it, I can’t wait until the polls close, it’s gonna be good.
Running ads on Election Day is pissing money down the drain. The only thing the ads would be good for is voter turnout. But, by now, I think everyone’s decided who they’re voting for or if they’re voting at all.
I say too little, too late.
Agreed, El Som. I don’t think Mike saw the train coming. Those fundies is KRAZiii!
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about what Mike Castle should have done. The only model I see of successfully fighting back a teabagger was actually John McCain. He spent something like $20M to define J.D. Hayworth as unacceptable and McCain spent the last year repudiating every “maverick” position he’d ever espoused. Could Mike Castle have done that?
I don’t think he could have gone that far right and then win in November, UI. Delaware isn’t as nuts as Arizona… yet!
Exactly pandora, Castle was in a difficult position that he took too long to recognize.
Mike was a year late regarding OD as a threat. This whole race was compacted into a two week sprint. It is funny in a way. When you ask politicians how the race is going, q common response is, “nobody is really paying attention yet. I’m going to ramp things up after (x date).”
Mike was a year late regarding OD as a threat.
Good point. Two or three years ago nobody could have predicted that revelations of chronic serial lying and financial mismanagement, not to mention the outright air-headedness, would have failed to derail her candidacy. The willingness to ignore and forgive that stuff in order to run the “most conservative” candidate is a new level of crazy. Remember what these people said about Biden for copping a few lines of somebody else’s speech. But if anybody could have seen it, it should have been Mike Castle. Remember Castle was the recipient of Crazy Eileen’s rant, which is sort of a historical milestone in the teabaz movement. So yes, Castle should have smelled the crazy back then.
Good point on McCain, UI. That is also how Democrats should fight the far right. But you have to start early, and bring giant bags of money.
I think a politician saying they’ll wait until voters “pay attention” probably doesn’t have the money. Define your opponent before they define themself.
Sadly, the only thing required to establish ‘political credibility’ is money, something that O’Donnell has never had before. Shocked that Castle didn’t spend $$’s earlier to destroy her when he had the chance.
Christine O’Donnell will always be a looney toon. The Teabagz Express dollars are all that make her ‘credible’. And they may well take down Castle. At that point, the Express goes off the rails.
The most compelling proof of teabag disconnection from reality is they think Mike Castle is liberal.
A crazy idea, but if it sticks in the media that Castle’s brand of Republicanism is the “new liberal,” we’ll be fighting that for decades.
BE CARFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR November could be a different game if we don’t get the vote out as if it were a presidential year election
WE MUST FINISH THE JOB!!!!!!!!!!
WE MUST VOTE TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!
COONS!!!!