Wednesday Open Thread

Filed in National by on October 20, 2010

Welcome to your Wednesday open thread. Did you know there’s yet another Senate debate tonight? This is a WHYY studio debate and I don’t think it’s being carried live. I just wonder what crazy thing Christine O’Donnell is going to say this time.

Spanish-language channel Univision announced that they would not carry a commercial called “Latinos Don’t Vote.”

Ben Smith breaks the news that the Spanish-language network Univision will not be airing a controversial segment by the conservative group Latinos for Reform urging Hispanic voters to stay home on election day in Nevada.

“Univision will not be running any spots from Latinos for Reform related to voting,” according to network spokeswoman Monica Talan. “Univision prides itself on promoting civic engagement and our extensive national campaigns encourage Hispanics to vote.”

That’s stunningly cynical, even for the GOP. This has been one election dominated by lies backed by big money.

Certain liberals have been wringing their hands about how mean Jack Conway is because he ran an ad questioning Rand Paul’s pronouncement of faith. I guess it’s paying off for Conway because the latest poll had Conway up by 2%. Now the victim of the prank has given an interview supporting Conway’s ad.

The woman, who again asked for anonymity because she’s a clinical psychologist who works with former members of the military, including Tea Partyers, said she was surprised that Paul is still refusing to acknowlege his past views and the college antics they spawned.

“My whole point in sharing [the episode] was that Randy used to be a different person with different views that have radically changed, and he’s not acknowledging that,” she told me. “That is why I shared it in the first place.”

She added that his college years and views should raise questions “as to how genuine he is about his beliefs now. I have a hard time seeing how someone who espouses beliefs that he used to would turn around and become a conservative Christian.”

She confirmed the ad’s accuracy, and wondered aloud why Paul doesn’t just admit what occured and move on.

I’m sure this is what Rand Paul wanted to be talking about in the last two weeks before the election.

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  1. Delaware Dem says:

    In case you haven’t noticed, since Christine O’Donnell’s shocking display of Constitutional ignorance yesterday, the Delaware conservative blogosphere is silent.

  2. I had some Delaware conservatives tweeting at me yesterday that Chris Coons doesn’t understand church-state 1st amendment. I pointed out that Coons quoted the text of the 1st amendment and O’Donnell said “you’re saying that’s what it says?”

  3. Delaware Dem says:

    I am just talking about blog posts. Nothing since yesterday.

  4. cassandra m says:

    As soon as they get their scripts, they’ll be back. They don’t exactly think on their feet, you know….

  5. Apparently today Jensen was saying O’Donnell’s right about the 1st amendment, she’s just inarticulate. I guess the right wing is going full in in taking us back to before the Constitution.

    You think all these so-called originalists would be happy about the existence of documentation spelling out exactly what the founders were thinking. That must be why Texas was trying to write out Thomas Jefferson, since he’s the one who wrote the letter to the Danbury Baptists.

  6. WHYY debate was taped this morning, and will air tonight from 7 to 8. Some video clips on http://www.whyy.org/delaware soon.

  7. V says:

    I said this in the other thread, but Widener was overwhelmed with calls to the Dean’s office yesterday because tea partiers were angry at the reactions of the Widener students in the audience. Clearly Widener is doing something wrong if all of the students seem to accept that there is separation of church and state in the 1st Amendment. They’re being taught wrong, that’s why they laughed at her.

    Really. That happened.

  8. Ooh, thanks Mark. Are any big news stories going to come out of this debate?

  9. anon says:

    I don’t think I have ever heard of a debate being taped in a studio for future broadcast. What’s that all about? Was there an audience?

  10. No big gaffes from either candidate, exchange was relatively tame compared to Tuesday’s debate. Coons turned the ‘pet’ attack against O’Donnell, accusing her of being a ‘pet’ of out of state interests. O’Donnell says she opposes off-shore wind and oil rigs on Delaware’s coast, but says the final decision should be up to Gov. Markell, not the federal government. Recap is here: http://goo.gl/24VT — video coming shortly.

  11. anon says:

    For political junkies, apparently the O’Donnell Campaign has just confirmed that she will attend the Civic League Candidates Forum at 6:30 PM, Troop 2, Bear, Delaware. Due to the late notice, Chris Coons is unavailable, but will send his brother Tom Coons to make a Statement for him.

    # # #

    Update
    U.S.Senate : Christine O’Donnell and a representative from the Coons campaign will be in attendance from 6:30 through approximately 6:50 PM.

    Candidates Forum – Wednesday, October 20, 2010 at 6:30 PM

    The Civic League for New Castle County will be hosting a candidate forum on Wednesday, October 20, 2010, beginning at 6:30 PM, to be held in the Paris community room, Delaware State Police Troop #2, 100 LaGrange Ave, Bear.

    Candidate(s) for the following offices have confirmed attendance thus far:

    State Senate 8th District (Louis Saindon)
    State Senate 9th District (Robert Johnson and Karen Peterson)( Peterson cancelled)

    State Representative 9th District (John Marino and Rebecca Walker)
    State Representative 15th District (Valerie Longhurst and James Van Houten)(Longhurst cancelled)
    State Representative 22nd District (David Ellis)and Joe Miro
    State Representative 25th District ( Gordon Winegar )
    State Representative 27th District (Jay Galloway and Earl Jaques) (both have another engagement and may not be in attendance)

    New Castle County Council – 3rd District (Janet Kilpatrick and Renee Taschner)
    New Castle County Sherriff (Bill Hart) and Trinidad Navarro
    NCC Register of Wills (Ciro Poppiti and Kathy Sherwin)

    It is our intention to hold each office forum to NO more than a half hour each in which the candidates will be asked a series of questions from both members of the League and the audience.

    If you’d like to attend, it’s FREE. However; we request your help in further planning this event by completing the RSVP/survey at the link below:

    RSVP to Civic League Candidates Forum

    You may get updates on the October 20th, 2010 candidate forums by checking the CLNCC Blog.

    We look forward to your attendance and support of what we hope is a lively interaction with the candidates.

    Chuck Mulholland
    President,
    Civic League for New Castle County
    update 11:50 10/20/10

  12. anon says:

    You think all these so-called originalists would be happy about the existence of documentation spelling out exactly what the founders were thinking.

    External documents don’t count, except for selected portions of the Federalist Papers, which are part of the Constitution.

  13. reis says:

    Federalist Papers is an awesome read. Especially if you know the context of the three authors actually publishing these papers by hand under very short time constraints while they were involved with lots of other stuff (including being the first Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Ct., but I think he only authored one paper because he was too busy establishing precedent for the first batch of our country’s traffic tickets).

  14. anon says:

    No enthusiasm gap here.

  15. skippertee says:

    One too many hits to the helmet.

  16. V says:

    Seeing a lot of people wearing purple today?

    They’re wearing it in support for LGBT teens (and everyone) in light of the recent suicides. Bullying will NOT be tolerated.

    It’s been championed by GLAAD, but I’m pretty sure it started on facebook. There’s quite a lot of purple in my office today.

  17. MJ says:

    Does it surprise anyone that the person behind the Latinos Don’t Vote project is the former director of Hispanic affairs for the Republican National Committee. He also worked on Social Security reform under W.

  18. MJ says:

    I am probably the one gay man who doesn’t have anything purple.

  19. V says:

    haha my scoop-neck sweater is yours if you want it, MJ

  20. a. price says:

    sportin my purple socks

  21. Joe Cass says:

    Jason, nice try! You just went up against the wall of separation; the wall separating logic from Jensen’s brain.

  22. a. price says:

    and as a kid who was bullied in high school, i think we should expand all this to “national kick a bully in the nards’ day”

  23. Dana Garrett says:

    “O’Donnell says she opposes off-shore wind….”

    As far as I am concerned, that is as much a scandal as not knowing the meaning of the 1st amendment.

  24. a. price says:

    But it may get her Harris Mcdowell’s endorsement

  25. Debate video clips now posted online. http://goo.gl/kdk2
    Full debate on air tonight 7-8 on channel 12.

  26. anon, thanks for posting about the Civic League event.

    Long ago, before the primary was even half way in gear, I thought Coons had thought that he could make it to our event after something he had scheduled in Smyrna. Maybe I am confusing that with Castle’s schedule. It seems like a million years ago.

  27. Widener was overwhelmed with calls to the Dean’s office yesterday because tea partiers were angry at the reactions of the Widener students in the audience. Clearly Widener is doing something wrong if all of the students seem to accept that there is separation of church and state in the 1st Amendment. They’re being taught wrong, that’s why they laughed at her.

    *
    She is dripping in money right now. She promised the College Repubs. at Geo. Wash U. that she’d pay them $50 bucks each and put them up at a nice hotel in Delaware if they’d come up this weekend for a rally. (In politica this morning http://delawareway.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-astroturfing-looks-like-in-hands.html)

    I wouldn’t put it past her campaign to have astroturfing phonebanks for calls to Widener either.

  28. anon says:

    Can you believe there are actually liberal pants-wetters telling Jack Conway not to use the Aqua Buddha kidnapping against Rand Paul?

  29. anon says:

    Sestak vs. Toomey tonight at 7pm on Channel 6. Also live stream on abc.com and joesestak.com.

    Moderators are Jim Gardner and George Stepanopopaopalus.

    Sestak has a chance to put Toomey away.

  30. pandora says:

    Also… Coons/O’Donnell 7pm on WHYY