Kowalko Smacks Down 9/12 Nutbags Over Occupy Delaware

Filed in National by on November 6, 2011

It started with 9/12 Nutbags spamming elected officials with this idiotic nonsense:

From: TGarcia123@aol.com [TGarcia123@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 2:40 PM
To: hulikw@gmail.com; DeLuca Anthony (LegHall); Hall-Long Bethany (LegHall); Bushweller Brian (LegHall); Ennis Bruce (LegHall); Short Bryon (LegHall); cloutiercathy@aol.com; chris_coons@coons.senate.gov; Lee Biff (LegHall); senator-colin@prodigy.net; Short Daniel (LegHall); Scott Darryl (LegHall); McBride David (LegHall); Lawson Dave (LegHall); Wilson David L (LegHall); Sokola David (LegHall); Hudson Deborah (LegHall); Heffernan Debra (LegHall); Williams Dennis E (LegHall); Williams Dennis (LegHall); Blakey Donald (LegHall); squeac@yahoo.com; Connor Dorinda (LegHall); Bennett Bradford (LegHall); Jaques, Jr Earl (LegHall); Osienski Edward (LegHall); gsimpson@udel.edu; Bunting George (LegHall); Brady Gerald (LegHall); Hocker Gerald (LegHall); Lavelle Greg (LegHall); Peterman Jack (LegHall); McDowell Harris (LegHall); Kenton Harvey (LegHall); Keeley Helene (LegHall); Johnson JJ (LegHall); Kowalko John (LegHall); Atkins John (LegHall); Mitchell John L (LegHall); Viola John (LegHall); Miro Joseph (LegHall); Booth Joseph (LegHall); Peterson Karen (LegHall); Sorenson Liane (LegHall); Willis Lincoln (LegHall); Henry Margaret Rose (LegHall); George Melanie (LegHall); Barbieri Michael (LegHall); Mulrooney Michael (LegHall); Ramone Michael (LegHall); Katz Michael (LegHall); Manolakos Nick T (LegHall); Blevins Patricia (LegHall); Schwartzkopf Peter (LegHall); Walker Rebecca (LegHall); Gilligan Robert (LegHall); Marshall Robert (LegHall); Venables Robert (LegHall); BriggsKing Ruth (LegHall); Johnson Quinton (LegHall); Bolden StephanieT (LegHall); Schooley Terry (LegHall); lori_james@carper.senate.gov; Longhurst Valerie (LegHall); Carson William (LegHall); Outten Bobby (LegHall)
Cc: alex@912delawarepatriots.com
Subject: Re: Occupying Delaware

Who Will You Support?

I’m a member of the 9-12 Delaware Patriots, a conservative grass roots organization that formed in March 2009. One of our issues is our concern with the state of the economy and the bailouts and special treatment of some major corporations. Sound familiar? We had rallies, but we obtained permits, obeyed the law, cleaned up after ourselves, did not have a special security detail to monitor us and did not cost the tax payers a dime. Not one red cent. I guess we were not loud enough, rude enough or made enough sensationalism for the reporters. These OWS protestors are getting free food, some are getting paid and most are probably collecting unemployment, welfare and food stamps. Which group should have received the respect? The law abiding citizens who work and obey the law or the freeloaders who are looking for handouts? I guess Governor Markell has made his choice by backing the OWS thugs with special treatment. We will be watching who else backs this “movement” and we will remember come 2012. You can bet on it.

Theresa Garcia, 9-12 Delaware Patriots
Magnolia, DE

Thugs? Paid? Welfare? Food stamps? There is simply too much stupid going on here so Kowalko wrote back.

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Kowalko John (LegHall) wrote:

Please remove me from your mailing list.
Representative John Kowalko

The stupid lays so heavily on them though. Simple courtesy is lost on them, so they go on to demand attention for their moronic spam.

From: William Hulik [hulikw@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:49 PM
To: Kowalko John (LegHall)
Cc: TGarcia123@aol.com; DeLuca Anthony (LegHall); [and everyone else at Leg. Hall. Edited for space]
Subject: Re: Occupying Delaware

Representative John Kowalko,

It is my understnding you are a elected representative of the people therefore you work for the people of Delaware and you need to know what the people of Delaware have to say about THEIR State. I will not remove your name from my mailing list because your request is totally not in line with the other legislators that I have contacted about Occuping Delaware Is Coming.

You are the only one that has said “Please remove me from your mailing list. Representative? John Kowalko. Why do the others listen and you do not?

Regards,

Bill Hulik

So Kowalko had to bring the hammer down.

From: Kowalko John (LegHall)
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:03 PM
To: William Hulik
Cc: TGarcia123@aol.com; DeLuca Anthony (LegHall); [and everyone else at Leg. Hall. Edited for space]
Subject: RE: Occupying Delaware

Mr. Hulik,
As long as your email blast misrepresents legitimate protests as populated by freeloaders, the unemployed, welfare recipients and those feeding their families with government subsidized food assistance while failing to acknowledge that those categories of citizens are equally entitled to society’s help as you are, I will not be paying much attention to your email blasts.

As long as you try to demonize ordinary citizens who care about their fellow citizens and the desperate plight they find them in and as long as you choose to use false and unsubstantiated rationale in declaring them as “thugs”, I will not be regarding your email blasts as anything other than spam. Quite frankly, these citizens obtained permits and are as hard-working and law-abiding as anyone in your organization and they have the “Constitutional” right to assemble peacefully to lodge their protests against corporate excesses. So I will once again respectfully request that you remove me from your email list if you choose to use that list as a vehicle to villify or desparage good hard-working citizens of Delaware.
Respectfully,
Representative John Kowalko

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  1. Aoine says:

    Kowalko for????? president??

  2. Aoine says:

    If I’m correct, I believe that the Rep has a right to NOT receive email from those he wishes not to receive an email from.

    He receives his email on the state system, and hthere is a pretty nice spam filter there.

    and continued unwanted correpondence should be referred to Capitol Police for investigation into a harassment charge.

    When someone says no, or stop, that request needs to be heeded. why do the tbaggers feel they have the right to roll right over the rights and freedome of others but whine and cry when their toes get trampled on?? No wonder that guy from VA thinks there is no such thing as spousal rape.

    Typical for bullies, as I remember.

  3. Aoine says:

    plus these stupid fuckers are too stupid to notice that they were monitored by Law Enforcement, Federal and State

    and Im sure it cost PLENTY!!

    oh thats right – she (Teresa Garcia) sells real estate and he (Alex Garcia) mows lawns and plows snow in winter – when he wasnt meeting with Russ Murphy at the Diner or in Russ’s trailer home in Milford.

    Or posing on the front page with a weapon outlawed for hunting in DE and talking about “illegal immigrants” and denying he is Latino.

    Stupid isnt a strong enough a word for this group…….and those are all facts……..documented facts.

  4. John Young says:

    in Michigan that’s not bullying either…..

  5. Aoine says:

    Hulik lives in Kent as do the Garcias

    so Kowlako doe not need to be harassed by people that are not his constitutants

    I mean really, they dont/cant vote in his district, and his district isn’t t-baggy anyway

    so their leverage is………….

    someone PLEASE, tell these people to sit down and STFU – Kowalko did, but too politely for their rude asses

  6. KathyJ says:

    Hilarious. I’ve never met JK and don’t live in his district but I really need to make a contribution to his campaign.

  7. Dana Garrett says:

    John Kowalko is the real deal. Becoming a legislator hasn’t made him forget that government is supposed to be about its citizens.

  8. kavips says:

    I would have brought up the point that in Republican Sussex County, part of our nation so backwards that several districts even voted for a witch, over 150 Occupiers showed up at Rehoboth (incidentally more than did at Fletcher Brown Park), which is made even more significant, by the fact that at the last national Tea Party held beneath the steps of the nation’s capital, 10 people showed up, all from Fairfax County, VA.

    I know it’s just me, but I wouldn’t trust anyone who waited until the day after 9/11 to become a patriot anyway… It’s as if they woke up, rubbed their eyes, and said on that late date, “oh, I live in a democracy… ” duh.

  9. I’d have probably just sent the first email to the spam filter so any further emails get sent there. The smack down was sweet, though.

  10. anon says:

    Any Delaware resident has the right to contact any elected official. Calling that harassment is a very slippery slope.

    That said, Kowalko also has the right to ignore their emails, too. Just hit “delete,” Honorable John.

  11. Delaware Dem says:

    And he can also fire back at ignorant bastards like this Hulk guy. He has the right to free speech too.

  12. MJ says:

    These asshats need to know the following: The Federal Anti Spam Laws written in 2003 specifically state that the email must be solicited by the recipient in some manner; either by request for information or service or the implied agreement to receive the email from a secondary source by agreement to the original communication.

    If JK tells them to remove him from their junk email list, they must. If they don’t, I hope he files a complaint with the US Attorney’s office. Fight these bastards and hit them where it hurts – the pocketbook.

  13. anon says:

    Oh, absolutely, DelDem. But the reverse is also true. I was primarily responding to Aoine – “continued unwanted correpondence should be referred to Capitol Police for investigation into a harassment charge.”

    MJ: If writing to a public official can be classified as spam … that just strikes me as a huge problem.

  14. MJ says:

    Maybe we should all start emailing the Garcias and Hulik? Put them on email lists for progressive causes. 🙂

  15. Joe says:

    kavips,
    Just curiius, did those 10 lone tea partiers in DC decide to camp indefinitely in their place of protest?

    I understand why Markell is treating OWS as he is but think it’s going to bite him if they become a nuisance and cause trouble like those around the nation are doing.

    btw, many people in sussex voted AGAINST Coons & not so much for the witch.

  16. MJ says:

    Joe – what are you smoking today? The pitchfork folk in Sussex voted FOR COD, not against Coons. You really need to get your fact straight.

    And why would you think that the OD protesters here would be anything like the ones anywhere else in the country? Typical teabag (il)logic.

  17. MJ says:

    Anon – if you, whether you’re an elected official or not, asks to be removed from an email distribution list, you must be removed from it. Not that huge of a problem.

  18. Aoine says:

    MJ – anon obviously does not understand the law, nor has the ability for good reding comprehension:

    I said: “continued unwanted correpondence ” and I said that VERY clearly and on purpose.

    That phrase is the crux of the issue – sure they can send an email, and he can email them back and say, discontinue this charactization, or dont send any emails..

    quite good on his part.

  19. Anon says:

    MJ, you are nothing but a “useful idiot” used by those actually organizing these events and pulling the strings of little puppets in tents.

  20. Occupy DE says:

    You know what? I am sick and tired of people assuming the state/city is “giving” the “pot-smoking hippies” anything. They are NOT. They are throwing every possible amendment busting “rule” in the book at us to impede our progress. Rules that make no sense and are in direct and illegal violation of our civil rights. Since when do “code rules” supersede amendment rights? Since when does being sequestered in a hidden park and not allowed to bring in toilets, or leave the area as a march, or have signs constitute a valid offer? We’ve tried to cooperate with both the city and the state. We’ve been considerate of daycares, we’ve moved when asked…we’ve seriously looked at, considered and then rejected offers that were insulting at best. But we democratically put them to a vote anyway. We are not a political party, we are you, we are everyday people who are sick and tired of literally being sick and tired, and want our voices heard. What is so “dangerous” about that? This is all bullshit. This is what turns peaceful demonstrations ugly.

  21. MJ says:

    Anon – what the fuck are you talking about?

  22. Dominique says:

    “the pitchfork folk”

    I love how you guys are so blinded by your ideology that you can’t even see your own fucking hypocrisy. Your pathetic pea brain would explode if someone had generalized, say, the residents of the City of Wilmington with the same broad brush you use when you refer to the Tea Party, the residents of AN ENTIRE COUNTY, the GOP and anyone else who doesn’t agree with you. Your lameness is laughable.

  23. Dominique says:

    Abbreviated Occupy DE – WAAAAAAAHHH! (insert veiled threat at the end)

  24. Delaware Dem says:

    Shorter Dominique: I love Sarah Palin.

  25. MJ says:

    My guess is that Dominique has never traveled the back roads of Sussex County or met anyone who was educated in the IRSD.

  26. Geezer says:

    Dom: Your reading comprehension is slipping. The sentence is constructed to refer to a subset of Sussex Co. as “pitchfork people,” specifically those who voted for Christine O’Donnell. I think MJ is wrong — I’m sure some Republicans down there held their noses and voted for the Republican rather than Coons.

    There’s a way to offer that criticism that might get you heard. Your way isn’t it, and I don’t think it’s intended to be. Ever since Obama started running, your comments all include lots of insults and lots of opinion backed up by very little but your bile.

  27. cassandra m says:

    I love how you guys are so blinded by your ideology that you can’t even see your own fucking hypocrisy.

    This is pretty rich coming from someone who has been afflicted with this condition ever since the HRC fail.

  28. anon says:

    The Federal Anti Spam Laws written in 2003 specifically state that the email must be solicited by the recipient in some manner; either by request for information or service or the implied agreement to receive the email from a secondary source by agreement to the original communication.

    First, that was some very nice plagiarism from http://www.spamfaq.net/what-is-the-federal-anti-spam-law.

    Second, the CAN-SPAM act you referenced only applies to commercial messaging – define in the law as a “commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service.” Contacting an elected official about an issue of public concern hardly falls into that category. Indeed, your interpretation of the law (or, rather, the SpamFaq site’s interpretation) would prevent anyone from contacting any elected official unless that official asked for information.

  29. Von Cracker says:

    What’s up with some of these childish responses against the occupy movement. Is it stockholm syndrome for the middle masses? So when I hear “damn dirty hippies” or “pot smoking lazy commies”, what I really hear is: “I love my corporate overlords and consider their habitual financial raping as a true sign that they love me.”

    Reminds me of the fiefdom of bible belt and plain states, where the serfs slit their own to prevent someone else’s abortion.

    Dolts.

  30. MJ says:

    No plagiarism. And the law does apply to unsolicited email from anyone. I’ve filed complaints against people who have continued to send me unwanted email of all types and have won small monetary awards.

    And anon, these teabaggers (and my guess is you, too) don’t live in Kowalko’s district, so why would they need to be contacting him on anything? It was an email blast that could be considered commercial, IMO.

  31. anon says:

    I dislike my corporate overlords just as much as you all do.

    But I also dislike the enthusiastic self-righteousness of the full-time protesters who swarm to these types of things. I was on the edges of those groups in college, and rather drawn to them for a time, but eventually realized that you can’t make a living or have a family pulling publicity stunts, leading chants, Sharpie-ing signs, drumming and crashing on couches.

    I view that type of freak-show “Look At Meeeeee!” hyper-juvenile self-absorption as just as damaging to the progressive movement as a corporate Delaware Democrat.

    There are far more constructive ways to take action than by holding faux dialogues about process and waving fingers in the air. The discussion about where to “Occupy” – hold a symbolic sit-in protest in a public spot – has now taken up several days. That time would be far better spent recruiting candidates, raising money and running for office. At least at the end of the day then you can point to something accomplished.

  32. anon2too says:

    “These OWS protestors are getting free food, some are getting paid and most are probably collecting unemployment, welfare and food stamps. Which group should have received the respect?”

    People like Teresa Garcia claim to want the USA to return to the “Founders Values” but they don’t seem to know what that means.

    The Declaration of Independence states that “all men are created equal.” It doesn’t categorize equality by whether or not Americans receive unemployment, Social Security, welfare or food stamps.

    The First Amendment of the US Constitution gives ALL AMERICANS the right to peaceably assemble. It also doesn’t categorize who gets First Amendment rights based on whether or not you receive a check from the government.

    Once against Tea Partiers and Republicans like Garcia show their true colors: All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

  33. anon says:

    Plagiarism is where you present the words of others as your own, MJ. You did just that. You neither used quotation marks nor provided your source.

    So now we’re only allowed to contact public officials who directly represent us? No lobbying DeLuca or Blevins or Gilligan about anything? Geez …

  34. anon2too says:

    Kowalko needs to stay on Garcia’s mailing list and publicize the disgusting emails she sends in the name of the organization she belongs to, emails that show the 9/12 Delaware Patriot’s movement has nothing to do with the values of our founders.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

  35. MJ says:

    I didn’t claim that I was the originator of that info on spamming, and I didn’t use quotation marks (I’m wasn’t writing a thesis), so suck it, anon. And there’s a difference between lobbying and sending out a blast email with bullshit in the message, and that’s what teabagger Garcias and Hulik sent out. So, did I tell you to suck it?

    NOTE: I first heard D-List comedian Kathy Griffin use the words “suck it” in public.

  36. Geezer says:

    anon: Grow up. Quoting one sentence is not plagiarism. And if you don’t like what the Occupy folks are doing, hold your own protest — if it fits into your busy schedule, that is.

  37. MJ says:

    anon – you plagiarized the word plagiarism as you didn’t cite where you got the definition.

    See how stupid you are?

  38. socialistic ben says:

    “There are far more constructive ways to take action than by holding faux dialogues about process and waving fingers in the air”

    like….?

  39. anon says:

    MJ and Geezer: It doesn’t matter if it’s one sentence or 1,000 sentences. If you take someone else’s words and present them as yours – which is what MJ did – it’s plagiarism. MJ didn’t quote it – quoting would have used quotation marks or italics or something to indicate those words were someone else’s.

    Using a single word is simple communication; you don’t have to define every term you use. But there’s a huge difference between that and trying to pass off someone else’s information and research as your own. It would have been easy enough – and better – to use quotes or provide a link, as your other colleagues here do routinely. Copying and pasting the work of another is utter intellectual dishonesty.

    MJ wrote: “And there’s a difference between lobbying and sending out a blast email with bullshit in the message, and that’s what teabagger Garcias and Hulik sent out.”

    So let me get this straight. Your argument is that (a) contacting one’s elected officials can be spam; (b) elected officials should file complaints against people who contact them; and (c) elected officials can differentiate between spammers and legitimate greviances based on the content of their speech. Is that right?

    So what’s to stop Greg Lavelle, the next time someone here sends him an email, from filing a complaint against them because he didn’t ask them to send the email and he doesn’t view their viewpoint as legitimate political speech?

    Geezer: I tried to explain in response to Von Cracker why I dislike the Occupiers. If you want your side to win, you might want to listen to that line of thinking, because quite a few Americans who would normally be on your side think that the permanent protest class is composed of a bunch of self-indulgent jerks.

    socialistic ben: I gave you an example: “That time would be far better spent recruiting candidates, raising money and running for office.”

  40. Geezer says:

    “quite a few Americans who would normally be on your side think that the permanent protest class is composed of a bunch of self-indulgent jerks.”

    And you seem to be one of them, so screw you too. I believe “concern trolling” is the name for your position.

    And you’re also wrong on the plagiarism issue. Please find me a case, anywhere, where a charge of plagiarism was upheld against someone for quoting a single declarative sentence. Good luck. I’d also like you to point out the punishment for a private citizen “plagiarizing” someone else’s sentence if he does so without economic gain. Good luck again.

    More importantly, the sentence copied was not the original thought of another; it was a basic description of what the law says. If I give a description of, say, what electricity is, it will almost inevitably repeat the description someone else gave somewhere. So what?

    Even when an original thought is being expressed, plagiarism depends upon more than merely copying printed or spoken material. If I say “We must all hang together or we shall all hang separately,” is it plagiarism if I fail to note that Benjamin Franklin said it first?

    Beyond that, what difference does “plagiarism” make to your basic argument, whatever that is? None. So you’re dragging it in to try to discredit MJ on an unrelated issue, a cheap form of the ad hominem fallacy. It’s childish, and apparently so are you.

    “That time would be far better spent recruiting candidates, raising money and running for office.”

    Who died and made you head of the occupy movement? Do what you want, and let others do the same. Don’t expect sympathy here for your bullshit concern trolling.

  41. anon says:

    Oh my Fin God. There is no criminal charge of plagiarism. No one ever said there was.

    Von Cracker asked why people opposed the movement. I was answering him. No concern trolling – just an explanation, you twit.

    MJ was holding himself out as an expert in spam laws. In trying to do my own research – because his line of arguing made no sense – I found that he’d stolen the line from another source. Kind of goes to one’s credibility.

    I’m done here. You all can have your echo chamber back. Just make sure to hang the “No Criticizing the Commissar” sign on the front door.

  42. Geezer says:

    There is a civil charge of it. Please find me an instance of it being applied to a single sentence. While you’re at it, please explain why you brought it up.

    Oh, wait, you’re calling the wahmbulance. By the way, I don’t know who made that phrase up.

  43. Geezer says:

    For the record, I disagree with MJ on this. I don’t think it’s spam, but I suspect Kowalko thought it was because of all the addresses.

    Sorry for missing your explanation of why you brought it up — you acknowledge it was an ad hominem attack.

  44. puck says:

    “Spam” is a trademarked word, so you are all in violation.

  45. Geezer says:

    Well shiver me timbers. I was wrong about civil penalties for plagiarism; legally speaking, the wrongdoing is copyright infringement. Apparently the term for what MJ did is “content scraping,” according to the Wikipedia entry on plagiarism, which also contains this:

    “plagiarism is often held to not only be the mere copying of text, but also the presentation of another’s ideas as one’s own”

    Again, I would submit that a sentence explaining the effect of a law is too generalized to count as an “idea.”

  46. anonone says:

    I disagree with Kowalko’s response asking to be removed from the mailing list, however, his second response was spot-on.

    I wish he would challenge Carney in a Democratic primary.

  47. john kowalko says:

    UI and others,

    Let me explain in more detail. I received some emails from a half -dozen, or so, different addresses that contained a form-letter like tirade that unjustly and unfairly attacked, mischaracterized and vilified a group of people. It was, quite frankly, insulting and obnoxious and offensive. Since the email blast did not specify a concern or suggestion that my office could make a good faith effort to address and since it was offensively worded and resonated with a generalized, unnatural resentment for people that the senders did not personally know and since the message was obviously intended to provoke the addressees into clamoring for some kind of misdirected response to these people exercising their constitutional right of assembly I felt and still feel that the group instigating such erroneous perceptions was wrong and asked to be removed from their email list. I deliberately decided not to relegate these individual senders to a spam folder since any one of them (in my district or not) might at any time have a legitimate question, suggestion or concern that I might be able to help them with in my position as a public servant. I never want to preemptively cut off an open/responsible dialogue and I wouldn’t think to ban any citizen from open access to me and my office.
    Therefore I respectfully requested removal of my name from an email list that is precariously close to spewing hate speech. I also would never consider legal action since I believe my reasonable explanation for my response should be met with a responsible acquiescence to reason and common sense and decency.
    John Kowalko

  48. kavips says:

    The founders of this nation, deeply felt that when ideas of no merit, and ideas based on reality, were presented side by side, the vast majority would be able to discern the difference.

    It’s nice to see they were right.

  49. MJ says:

    Anon, where did I say I was an expert in spam laws? The only place I can think of is inside that pointy little head of yours.

    You really need to get a life, you dumb teabagging asshat.

    Geezer, my guess is that anon is tossing off to all of this, perhaps in the company of Jon Moseley.

  50. Will McVay says:

    This is hardly a breach of confidence. The 9-12 newsletter email sent out on both November 4th and 5th issued a call to action for all 9-12 Patriots to contact their elected officials, relaying the comments of the DEGOP State Chair with respect to “Occupation” protests. It strikes me as a little petty for anyone to release the email thread, but it seems to have been pretty widely circulated and I’m not sure that it’s really possible to know who’s responsible. I saw part of it posted on Facebook.

  51. Anon says:

    Just to be clear that Anon is not this Anon.

  52. Anon in Kowalko district says:

    So Rep Kowalko,

    As a person who happens to live in your district is this the kind of BS we get from our rep? I voted against you last time and will post even more yard signs and pass on to my neighbors who really are. I am embarrassed to have someone representing my area who has such ethics issues. I would be more than pissed if I sent my rep an email and then the email and my address were sent to a blog. Pathetic!

  53. Geezer says:

    Yeah, coz your yard signs did SO much good last election. Write back when you get the spittle off your screen.

  54. Grin says:

    @ anon
    “Just to be clear that Anon is not this Anon.”
    Might be time to get a new handle. Just a thought.

    I wish John or Karen was my Rep, give em hell J. K. -G

  55. pandora says:

    Anons would be wise to take your advice, Grin. 🙂

  56. LittleOne says:

    I am not a part of any of these movements and our Reps are suppose to be there for us. I do blame the corporations for this mess but I blame the GOVERNMENT for all of this mess they have given most if not all the corporations a free ride they just keep wanting more and more I feel if we get all the government from the president on down stright that they can’t pick and choose who and how much they will pay for their contributions and what I mean about that is the corporations contribute to the government alot more than a regular person does so they get BIG BIG tax breaks

  57. kavips says:

    LittleOne.

    Just to make it clear, it was Republicans who changed the laws making corporate campaign contributions the major source of campaign funds.

    Had Democrats not been booted out, our representatives would be now more beholden to the people.

    Returning more Democrats and no Republicans will give you the government you are seeking. It already exists here in Delaware on the state level, for that very reason. But then again, Delawareans are always ahead of the national curve.

  58. Will McVay says:

    Delaware Campaign Finance laws are a joke and simply teach our would-be elected officials about money laundering. As I recall, Citizens United was decided following one of the biggest landslides in Democratic Party history. The history of the case is actually pretty interesting if you read the Wikipedia article.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

    The real problem with campaign finances is the lack of transparency. It is perfectly legal for a wealthy citizen or corporation in Delaware to donate millions of dollars to a single candidate for a single office, provided they are willing to fill out enough forms to properly obfuscate that fact from a public too lazy to actually READ the campaign finance reports of the many PACs and party organizations that constitute the political ecosystem of the state. Tigani was just an idiot for not being able to keep the paperwork straight.

  59. Anon in Kowalko district says:

    geezer, you are right about the yard signs but wrong about the strong influence a person can have by actually talking to neighbors. Blogs on the left & right do nothing but make you feel like everyone agrees with you in your little community of groupthinkers.

  60. Geezer says:

    Right. Because I never knew anything about politics until blogs sprang up. Because John Kowalko doesn’t walk his district each election. Because I utterly, absolutely believe that you 1) live in the district and 2) will talk to so many people about your “outrage” that you’ll make a difference.

    You ought to take your own advice about the groupthinkers.

  61. Von Cracker says:

    I never asked why certain people oppose the movement; I made an observation that those non-wealthy CORPatriots who do oppose it use tired, unimaginative put-downs from a misremembered era that have no basis in reality. All you hear from the serfs who guard their Precious trickle-downers is what they wish the movement was in their own misinformed, biased minds.

    All of this is nothing more that the usual conservative modus operendi – make the exception the rule while portraying the rule as the exception. Either way, the result is promoting extremism.