Let’s Do This Again
Yesterday we showed the new Delaware Democratic Party logo, but there was just a small problem with it. The vendor misspelled “Democratic” by adding a third “c.” And to be fair to the staff at the Del Dems, I missed it when I first looked at it, because my attention was drawn to the Hen.
So here is the new revised logo:
And here is the secondary new logo that I love:
To see how much of an improvement this logo is over the logos of Delaware Democratic Party’s past, take a look:
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Below is the email I sent to Del Dems in response to the email asking: “Like our new logo?”
Matt,
I really don’t like the new logo. Did anyone google this Jonathan Caldwell? Check out the passage below. Please reconsider. Bring back the donkey.
Jonathan Caldwell was said to be a jovial gentleman and a devotee to the so-called sport of cock-fighting. He was well known all over the Delaware and Maryland peninsulas as a respected owner and breeder of gamecocks. It’s been reported that Mr. Caldwell produced a strain of fighting gamecocks noted for their blue plumage and fighting ability that were descended from a famous Blue Hen. The renown of these chickens spread rapidly throughout Kent County during the time when cock-fighting was a popular form of amusement, and the “Blue Hen’s Chickens” developed quite a reputation for ferocity and fighting success. Caldwell argued that no gamecock could hold a candle to those descended from the Blue Hen.
Cock-fighting, now illegal in the United States, is a bloody and ruthless activity were two roosters are pitted against each other for sport. The roosters slash at each other with their claws until a victor is determined. Often a rooster’s natural claw was fitted with sharp metal claw, or spur, to inflict damage on the opponent.
http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/birds/de_blue_hen_chicken.htm
Joanne Cabry
Don’t like it either. But for reasons less profound or well-thought-out than Joanne’s.
We’re the D’s. Our symbol is the donkey. Not some bleeping red-assed chicken.
This is one logo where the new leadership of the party screwed up. Get rid of the gallina and bring back the burro.
I like it because it invokes the bloody and ruthless sport of cockfighting. The Dems need a little bit more of that.
Ultimately though, problems with the logo are what Charles Barkley might call, white person problems.
I disagree with all three of you. The party is trying to give itself a local identity, much like the Minnesota Democratic Farmer Labor Party. In that effort, choosing the Fighting Blue Hen is a natural. I understand Joanne’s point about cock fighting, but the Fighting Blue Hens, the military regiment, is part of our state’s Revolutionary War History. Are we to white wash the whole of our history because we object to cock fighting today?
AMEN to DE DEM.
BTW, when I used to frequent the local bars, I met a fellow up at Hoffman’s Haven in nearby Pennsylvania who had a career working for the Carpenter family (Bob and Ruly) who keep Blue Hen gamecocks. This fellow used to take the birds to a legal state and train them to fight in the tradition of our fighten’s —- the colonial era passtime.
Some people who eat of roast fowl and flesh would never kill a bird or a beast themselves. There are also those who watch boxing, football and hockey bloodlusts but couldn’t stomach a bird fight. It isn’t as if the birds were regularly allowed to kill one another to victory. It was a sport with referee interjection, no?
I had a career working with thoroughbred racehorses and they were bred to run and would run through pain to compete. The nature of the beast, so to speak, competition is in their blood. To win is everything. Humans share the lust for that.
Here’s what the State web site on State historical markers has to say about the origin of ‘Blue Hens.’
CAPTAIN JONATHAN CALDWELL
This farm, formerly known as Burberry’s Berry, was home of Captain Jonathan Caldwell of Colonel Haslet’s Regiment in Revolution. Tradition says Delaware solders received name “Blue Hen’s Chickens” from Caldwell’s men having with them game chickens, celebrated in Kent for their famous fighting qualities, the brood of a certain blue hen.
KC-17
LOCATION: Felton. One US 13 north of State Route 12 (Midstate Road) intersection, across from Felton Elementary School.
The Delaware Public Archives operates a historical markers program as part of its mandate. Markers are placed at historically significant locations and sites across the state. For more information on this program, please contact Thomas Summers at (302) 744-5047
http://archives.delaware.gov/markers/kc/CAPTAIN%20JONATHAN%20CALDWELL%20KC-17.shtml
The fighting Blue Hen should not have a red ass.
Like it was kicked by a donkey.
If you’re looking for a local identity, then you don’t need the red, white and blue, now do you?
And, if it’s ‘fightin’ blue hens that you seek, then why not boxing gloves? Or razors, a la ‘Seaford Todd’?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQfNiGU6cXo
“I like it because it invokes the bloody and ruthless sport of cockfighting.”
I’m with George Carlin on that. The first time I ever heard the term I said, “What the ….?”
Obama caved on homeowners, caved on women…yup chicken is a good logo for the right wing neo con democrats.
how was there a cave to homeowners? the states AG are still going after the banks, there is more justice in the works. you didnt get everything you wanted all at once. sometimes that’s how life works. There are also still just reports about a possible compromise idea on the contraception rule… nothing solid has happened yet, so save the lefteabag obama derangement syndrome. In fact, what has been reported shows that women will still have the same access to BC without involving the pedophiles. It’s actually quite smart…. it would force the GOP to go even further in their rhetoric against women.
Ben is 100% right. How is there a cave when you give up nothing. Women will still be able to get birth control under the plan as the insurance companies will be paying for it.
So there is no cave and any firebagger who says otherwise is lying.
Indeed, this is a great political play by the President, and I am now convinced he started this controversy to provoke the Republicans. If the GOP and the Bishops don’t accept this compromise then they are revealed as being anti-birth control rather than pro-religious libertyl. It is a pretty genius play.
actually, im not seeing anything in this “compromise” that will help women. getting angry……. hope more details come out soon, but right now it looks like he just gave up.
You don’t see anything in this compromises that helps women? Then you are blind.
Because women get birth control covered by their health insurance plan under this compromise.
not blind, just very very very very very very x10^10 cynical.
It doesnt force any company to pay for hormone medication (let’s call it what it is) but the insurance has to. they company hires the insurance company so the case can be made that the company is still being forced to pay for it. It is just like how some federal money goes to PP and PP sometimes performs abortions….. in RWNJ speak… the government funds abortions. (i know there is more to it)
Why wont he draw a goddamn line in sand? Why cant he stick with a fucking position? look how much support he had here, and he bent. Payroll tax cut is coming up, so will another round of unemployment insurance. there are plenty of laws that restrict religious freedom when those “freedoms” oppress others. Partitioners voodoo cant sacrifice virgins, Jews cant own slaves, Rastafaris can take sacrement… is a woman’s body less important that pot? (although the fun plants ARE female…. i heard from someone once) hell, The Original Teabaggers used religious freedom to try and defend slavery. these people are disgusting, compromising with them is disgusting.
I’ve only had time to give this a quick look, but… it looks like women will have BC covered and that if a religious organization won’t cover it then the insurance company will. Am I wrong about that, Ben?
that’s what it sounds like to me… but how is the insurance company expected to pay for it? Not that i care too much about the profit margin for health insurance companies… but if the 14th century style company doesnt have to pay anything because skydad wants women punished for having sex, where does that cost come from? and how long until THEY complain loud enough for Obama to compromise there? the government has just respected the dogma of an established religion over the health of human women. I dont like this. I am however open to be made ot feel better about it if someone would like to correct me
furthermore, any company can now claim christianity to get out of helping people.
President Obama: “no woman’s health should depend on who she is, or where she works, or what her health is or how much money she makes. Period,”
That seems pretty clear.
Here is another thing that happens… The catholic men in charge are already complaining about this – which shifts the fight from “religious” concerns (since that’s been dealt with) to outlawing contraception (which is the end goal).
Religion is now off the table. This is now a fight over contraception. Count me in for that fight.
(May I just say that this may be the dumbest social position conservatives have ever taken.)
I wish a shared your optimism. my question is, are insurance companies (whom i hate) now expected to pick up the tab if WallMart finds Jesus? what happens when most employers want to save money? How about this argument… The child has a genetic disorder, God clearly wants him to be sick, if we insured his treatment, it would be violating our religion…. what if the head of a university or car maker said that. Obama’s “deal” opens the door to that.
Insurance companies will likely raise premiums to pay for this — so that the coverage that Catholic institutions (and everyone else, I think) pay for will just go up to cover it. Provided the insurance companies go along with this. It does shift the argument from religious freedom to contraception, but so would someone telling these Men In Vestments to go pound sand. As they already provide this coverage at their major institutions.
Time to tax these churches and their institutions, seriously.
I like the new logo. I don’t think many people associate it with animal cruelty. Most people associate it with Delaware and the mascot of the U of D.
On the other hand, if Michael Vick endorses the new logo, we have a problem.
The Red A– of the hen is a not so subtle symbol of where the Republicans are right now politically. Always bringing up the rear (and getting spanked in statewide elections).
Insurance companies have no problems covering contraceptives in policies. The cost of contraception is much less than is the cost of pregnancy.
“The cost of contraception is much less than is the cost of pregnancy.”
So true in so many ways. If conservatives were half as interested in fiscal responsibility as they claim to be, there would be contraceptives in every Happy Meal.
So wait…you guys are going from being asses to cocks?
LOL! Might as well throw in a house cat while you’re at it.
there are 3 types of people in this world billy……
Just a bit of an artistic/graphic design critique if I may: With the circular seal logo, the star should be a tad smaller and centered in the circle, with everything proportioned to fit around it. Otherwise it looks like your cock is sagging…and you don’t want that now do you?
Also, why isn’t the star red?
Mao would be ‘berry berry’ unhappy if he saw this!!!
down boy. your first joke was funny. less is more.
“With the circular seal logo, the star should be a tad smaller and centered in the circle, with everything proportioned to fit around it.”
Agreed. Shrink the bird to center the star.
The change from the donkey to a chicken, not good. Democrats identify with donkey. That’s what a symbol is about. Actually foremost, it looks republican, like it would be at home, stuck on a lawn chair at a tea party rally. What’s a star doing in the chicken’s middle. Looks like it’s exploding.(Yes, I’m familiar with the cock fighting history) – but a chicken mainly says, chicken.
First example, “DELAWARE” is too bold, too thick, largely overpowering. “Democratic,” smaller, frail, wishy washy blue by comparison. DELAWARE is the most important word there. As it stands, it’s mainly a DELAWARE logo. Makes one ask want to ask, is the Democratic Party changing to the DELAWARE Party?
Second example. Who wants to read something that’s rapped too far around in a circle. The chicken’s even more prominent. Too many dates. All together – too many numbers and circles; blue circle, white circle, blue circle, white circle, around an exploding chicken, with a red azz. Nothing against red, white and blue, but second example looks like it would make a good chicken flag or a chicken feed bag symbol.. Too bright, busy, flashy. Retinas burning. Must look away.
How about a lovable looking, confident, natural colored donkey, steadily on the move, looking back over his shoulder wisely, tried and true.(Delaware’s finer leaders come to mind.) The cloth over his back reads, DEMOCRATIC PARTY of Delaware, with a proper amount of colorful trim. Color of donkey and cloth, pleasantly co ordinated, bright enough to notice, tranquil enough to say, yes, that’s the party.