“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
I would say that someone has been working very hard to make sure they fail. Maybe the GOP? Or their friends in the oil and gas industries? There has been a concerted effort.
@liberal elite: I would say that someone has been working very hard to make sure they [Fisker] fail. Maybe the GOP? Or their friends in the oil and gas industries? There has been a concerted effort.
Since I love conspiracy theories, I’d really like details on this one. Where’s the evidence that anybody has been “working hard” to insure that they fail?
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
That the federal money matters not a whit to anyone with a grain of sense, and that trying it was better than trying nothing.
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
1) The money was not “stimulus” money. It was money from a Green initiative started by President Bush in 2007.
2) The Federal money that has been allocated to Fisker to date was for Fisker’s Corporate Headquarters in California for the DESIGN of the Karma. The Karma was, in fact, designed in CA and was always supposed to be built in Finland.
3) The Federal money being withheld from Fisker is the money that is supposed to help with the design and production of the Atlantic, which is the car that was supposed to be built in Newport.
Steve: Jeff Cragg and Sher Valenzuela went to Philly to speak out against the Fisker project. Mitt Romney uses Fisker on the campaign trail. I don’t know one Republican in the state who doesn’t incorrectly think that the Karma was supposed to be made in Newport.
Today, on Sussex radio, a man called in and said that the PSC held meetings in each county about the Fisker project, and that everyone at the meetings was against it, but Markell did it anyway. That, too, is false. The Fisker project wasn’t taken to the public until the deal was done. Why? Because there were other states with shut down auto plants that were trying to get the Fisker deal.
It would be nice if Republicans could tell the truth about Fisker, but I won’t hold my breath, since 2010 Republicans in Delaware and their Tea Party buddies have been unable to tell the truth about virtually anything.
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
1) The money was not “stimulus” money. It was money from a Green initiative started by President Bush in 2007.
“green initiative”=aka bipartisan version of stimulus money-we give money to companies to do to “research” on green technology”
“That the federal money matters not a whit to anyone with a grain of sense, and that trying it was better than trying nothing.”
so it’s OK to waste taxpayer money for the ‘best of intentions’. By that logic, W’s war in Iraq wasn’t too bad. After all, he just wanted Iraq to have freedom and democracy. Yes, we spent a lot of money trying to free them from oppression, but since our goals were noble, trying it (liberating Iraq) was better than trying nothing. Therefore, we can pillage the treasury so long as we have the ‘best of intentions’, such as with Fisker.
If there were no difference between $1 trillion and $500 million, you’d have a point. If the Iraq war cost the original $2 billion estimate, a lot of the complaints about it never would have materialized.
But thanks for the false equivalence. What would you conservatives do without it?
@anon: none of what you cite constitutes a conspiracy. Precisely the opposite: it appears to constitute open (if ill-informed) opposition.
Opposing the idea is not the same as working to insure it fails. When you make that kind of assertion, you need to be ready to back it up if called on it.
So far, Liberal Elite has not been prepared to do so (or else, simply has not read the blogs today, which is always possible).
D.S.B. Oktoberfest, Newark
I blew the best alpine horn there years ago. At least he said it was an alpine horn.
What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120923/BUSINESS06/309230046/Fisker-hope-fades?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Business|p
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
I would say that someone has been working very hard to make sure they fail. Maybe the GOP? Or their friends in the oil and gas industries? There has been a concerted effort.
@liberal elite: I would say that someone has been working very hard to make sure they [Fisker] fail. Maybe the GOP? Or their friends in the oil and gas industries? There has been a concerted effort.
Since I love conspiracy theories, I’d really like details on this one. Where’s the evidence that anybody has been “working hard” to insure that they fail?
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
That the federal money matters not a whit to anyone with a grain of sense, and that trying it was better than trying nothing.
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
1) The money was not “stimulus” money. It was money from a Green initiative started by President Bush in 2007.
2) The Federal money that has been allocated to Fisker to date was for Fisker’s Corporate Headquarters in California for the DESIGN of the Karma. The Karma was, in fact, designed in CA and was always supposed to be built in Finland.
3) The Federal money being withheld from Fisker is the money that is supposed to help with the design and production of the Atlantic, which is the car that was supposed to be built in Newport.
Steve: Jeff Cragg and Sher Valenzuela went to Philly to speak out against the Fisker project. Mitt Romney uses Fisker on the campaign trail. I don’t know one Republican in the state who doesn’t incorrectly think that the Karma was supposed to be made in Newport.
Today, on Sussex radio, a man called in and said that the PSC held meetings in each county about the Fisker project, and that everyone at the meetings was against it, but Markell did it anyway. That, too, is false. The Fisker project wasn’t taken to the public until the deal was done. Why? Because there were other states with shut down auto plants that were trying to get the Fisker deal.
It would be nice if Republicans could tell the truth about Fisker, but I won’t hold my breath, since 2010 Republicans in Delaware and their Tea Party buddies have been unable to tell the truth about virtually anything.
Green = bad
That’s all Republicans know, and it’s sad.
“What is your opinion of the government spending hundreds of millions on stimulus money on Fisker to create jobs in the state, when after 3 years the state has nothing to show for it?”
1) The money was not “stimulus” money. It was money from a Green initiative started by President Bush in 2007.
“green initiative”=aka bipartisan version of stimulus money-we give money to companies to do to “research” on green technology”
“That the federal money matters not a whit to anyone with a grain of sense, and that trying it was better than trying nothing.”
so it’s OK to waste taxpayer money for the ‘best of intentions’. By that logic, W’s war in Iraq wasn’t too bad. After all, he just wanted Iraq to have freedom and democracy. Yes, we spent a lot of money trying to free them from oppression, but since our goals were noble, trying it (liberating Iraq) was better than trying nothing. Therefore, we can pillage the treasury so long as we have the ‘best of intentions’, such as with Fisker.
If there were no difference between $1 trillion and $500 million, you’d have a point. If the Iraq war cost the original $2 billion estimate, a lot of the complaints about it never would have materialized.
But thanks for the false equivalence. What would you conservatives do without it?
@anon: none of what you cite constitutes a conspiracy. Precisely the opposite: it appears to constitute open (if ill-informed) opposition.
Opposing the idea is not the same as working to insure it fails. When you make that kind of assertion, you need to be ready to back it up if called on it.
So far, Liberal Elite has not been prepared to do so (or else, simply has not read the blogs today, which is always possible).