Republican Shutdown and Debt Apocalypse Open Thread, Day 7
A Republican congressman gives his a history lesson:
The congressman began with an anecdote from the Civil War. “I would liken this a little bit to Gettysburg, where a Confederate unit went looking for shoes and stumbled into Union cavalry, and all of a sudden found itself embroiled in battle on a battlefield it didn’t intend to be on, and everybody just kept feeding troops into it,” the congressman said. “That’s basically what’s happening now in a political sense. This isn’t exactly the fight I think Republicans wanted to have, certainly that the leadership wanted to have, but it’s the fight that’s here.”
So the GOP is the Confederacy, about to be slaughtered in battle.
National Review: “House Republican leaders met today at the Capitol, but they made little progress toward solving the fiscal crisis, or calming the GOP’s growing tensions. They remain undecided on the contours of a potential deal, and on how to sell one, especially to the conference’s bloc of skeptical conservatives.”
Said one GOP aide: “It’s the House of indecision. We don’t have the votes for a big deal, small deal, or short-term deal.”
So now the new plan from the teajhadis is a Zombie Supercommittee. Reanimating the last budget Supercommittee that the GOP killed dead, because they couldn’t get everything they wanted.
Anyone else thinking that the House GOP teajhadis don’t know how their government works?
What a clusterf*ck.
The Chinese weigh in on the debt limit fiasco:
Great. Now the assholes in Congress are going to have to show off about how they “aint taking no orders from no Chinese.”
“Super committee” or not Americans seem to have had enough of Republican games at this point. Perhaps because no matter how they phrase it the end result boils down to repeal Obamacare or we’ll destroy the economy. Wall St. seems to be playing it cool but expect them to erupt as the 18th draws nigh. As for me I’m still enjoying the show and still expect the Republicans to have damaged themselves badly.
Sam Wang takes PPPs last poll and details the electoral risks to the GOP:
Fox News’ Erick Erickson looks at the same numbers and says…
…because the GOP’s numbers aren’t as bad as expected.
Two things about Wang’s analysis:
1) “Many things will happen in the coming 12 months,” Republicans going more insane has the highest probability.
2) “PPP then told respondents that their representative voted for the shutdown. At that point, the average swing moved a further 3.1% toward Democrats, and 22 out of 24 points were in the gray zone. That would be more like a 50-seat gain for Democrats – equivalent to a wave election. An analyst would have to be crazy to predict that!”
Awesome!
@Jason — Erikson is still under the delusion that the polls are skewed. He is waiting for the unskewed ones.
It’s astonishing how people are stupid enough to think that by simply passing a “clean” Bill and the fed simply deciding “hey, we can afford to spend more money” will make everything better, and avoid default….like the trillions in spending, doubling of the debt, he turbo printing of money isnt a problem?
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Nope, but you’re still really stupid because you have absolutely no idea what the debt ceiling is.
Use the Farce, Luke.
oh… sorry… I can see that you already are.
The debt ceiling is to pay for thing we ALREADY bought… Like paying your credit card bills. You do know what a credit card is, right? And you do know what happens if you refuse to pay your credit card bills? Right?
That’s what’s about to happen to the US.
I think President Obama may be smarter than any of us realize. His plan is starting to come to fruition. He creates obama care, with an individual mandate, tax/fine if you don’t sign up, then he builds a website so horrifically bad that hardly anyone can sign up. End result, everyone has to pay the new fines and taxes. What a brilliant way to back door raise taxes. This guy is a genius. This guy is approaching “Hitler” level of manipulation. And he has all the liberals (friends of the Reich) still supporting. What a plan.
Here is what CBS thinks about it.
http://freedomslighthouse.net/2013/10/09/cbs-news-report-on-obamacare-rollout-nothing-short-of-disastrous-video-10913/
Hey, Luke, Elkton called. They’re missing their village idiot and said you’d be perfect for the job.
Here is a little video highlighting democrats against raising the debt ceiling before they were for raising the debt ceiling
As usual, liberals do not acknowledge the word “contradiction”
http://freedomslighthouse.net/2013/10/09/new-rnc-ad-highlights-democrats-who-were-against-raising-the-debt-limit-before-they-were-for-it-video-10913/
Dils – One question. And I’d like a direct answer. Fox News & the GOP are now saying that a default would be “no big deal.” Do you agree with that?
Yes or no?
“As usual, liberals do not acknowledge the word “contradiction”
Yet they don’t deny it nearly so often as conservatives, who have no principles beyond winning at all costs.