Monday Open Thread [4.13.15]

Filed in National by on April 13, 2015

So today we will have reactions to Hillary Clinton’s campaign roll out, and I have to see it has been a shattering success so far. The video was well received, and she did the impossible and surprised the Press Corps with a secret road trip through Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois on the way to Iowa. Whenever the Press Corps is surprised, they always bestow some respect.

The AP reports on how she got here from there.

Hillary Clinton’s “decision to run again would be slow, almost painstakingly deliberate, a reflection of Clinton’s methodical and cautious nature. She put off much of the process until last fall, around the midterm elections. Only then did she delve deeply into consultations with dozens of policy and political experts, analysis of countless memos, and a reexamination of what went wrong in her failed 2008 campaign.”

“There was plenty that gave Clinton pause. She grimaced at the thought of giving up her privacy again. She worried about putting Chelsea, husband Marc and their baby in the spotlight. She felt bad that her candidacy would crowd out Vice President Joe Biden, a longtime friend who was also toying with a White House run. Clinton was also mindful of chatter that she could be challenged from her party’s liberal left flank… A less talked-about concern was health, both hers and her husband’s.”

By Christmas last year, “she had largely settled on running a second campaign, but wanted to make the final determination with her husband, Bill. When she returned to New York in the new year, there was no formal meeting with staff or email to friends to announce her candidacy. Clinton simply started telling advisers to move forward with hiring and find a campaign headquarters.”

I actually believe that about Biden. The Hillary-Biden friendship is well documented. And I get the feeling that all of Biden’s pronouncements about possibly running were to keep up his own political capital, and to provide Democrats with a Plan B should his friend not run. But deep down, Joe Biden always had to know that the next in line when it comes to 2016 was Hillary and not him.

“If they get to nominate Hillary Clinton, why don’t we get to nominate Dick Cheney?” — Bill Kristol on ABC’s This Week program on Sunday. Please proceed, Mr. Kristol. Do it.

Ed Kilgore of the Washington Monthly: “The diversity of the images in that video are a good reflection of where the Democratic Party finds its support these days, and the tone of “humility” is an appropriate antidote to the “coronation” talk we will inevitably hear from most Republicans and some Democrats.”

Nancy LeTourneau of the Washington Monthly: “I have to say that I think she’s made some good choices. This is exactly the right message to send. […] Hitting the road to earn votes and recognizing that, for the voters, “It’s your time” indicates that her campaign is more prepared this time. That was elaborated on by Clinton’s campaign manager Robby Mook yesterday when he said, “This campaign is not about Hillary Clinton and not about us – it’s about the everyday Americans who are trying to build a better life for themselves and their families.” Apparently Clinton will also play to her strengths by opening her campaign with smaller more intimate gatherings. She has plenty of time to build towards big campaign rallies and her challenge right now is more about building her reputation as someone who is authentically engaged. So that’s another smart move. We’ve got a long haul ahead. But I’d say that so far…so good.”

E.J. Dionne Jr.: “David Axelrod, Obama’s longtime adviser, has noted that voters are always looking for the corrective to whatever they didn’t like in the previous administration. Clinton will present herself as both a realist when it comes to the intransigence of the Republican Party — it took Obama time to acknowledge this — but also as someone with a history of working with Republicans. It will be an intricate two-step. “Tough enough to end polarization” may seem like an odd slogan, but something like it will be at the heart of her appeal. And she will have to go both to Obama’s left and right. Clinton needs to run hard against economic inequality, pledging to get done the things Obama couldn’t on issues including family leave, pre-K and higher education. She will have to be strong on expanding the bargaining power of the lower-paid. Trade will be the tricky issue here. Her video made clear that middle-class populism will be her dominant key, even as she nodded to the improvements during the Obama years.”

Brian Beutler on why Hillary Clinton’s campaign frightens Democrats:

It may even be the case that some of these Democrats with rattled nerves are less anxious about Clinton’s prowess against Republicans than about the fact that all of the party’s hopes now rest on her shoulders. Her campaign has become a single point of failure for Democratic politics. If she wins in 2016, she won’t ride into office with big congressional supermajorities poised to pass progressive legislation. But if she loses, it will be absolutely devastating for liberalism.

If you’re faithful to the odds, then most of this anxiety is misplaced. Clinton may have slipped in the polls by virtue of an email scandal and her return to the partisan trenches more generally. But she’s still more popular and better known than all of the Republicans she might face in the general, her name evokes economic prosperity, rather than global financial calamity, the economy is growing right now, and Democrats enjoy structural advantages in presidential elections, generally.

But all candidates are fallible, and most of them are human, which means every campaign labors under the small risk of unexpected collapse. The one real advantage of a strong primary field is that it creates a hedge against just such a crisis.

Steve Benen:

[T]he kickoff told us quite a bit about the kind of campaign Clinton intends to run, and the key differences from her previous candidacy. There’s also increased clarity Clinton’s rationale: “Everyday Americans need a champion, and I want to be that champion.” As one-sentence summaries go, that’s not a bad pitch. But as yesterday’s developments unfolded, I found myself thinking about history.

The historical angles Benen thought of for Hillary’s candidacy: 1) The opportunity for the first woman president; 2) an instant intra-party frontrunner without precedent; 3) Clinton brings a unique resume to voters (she would be the first president to be both a cabinet secretary and a statewide officer since 1856); 4) Parties usually struggle to win three in a row (Since 1952, it has only been done once, twice if you consider 2000 a win for the Democrats that got stolen, which I do).

Jonathan Chait explains why “Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win the 2016 Election” at New York Magazine.

“Unless the economy goes into a recession over the next year and a half, Hillary Clinton is probably going to win the presidential election. The United States has polarized into stable voting blocs, and the Democratic bloc is a bit larger and growing at a faster rate.”

“The argument for Clinton in 2016 is that she is the candidate of the only major American political party not run by lunatics. There is only one choice for voters who want a president who accepts climate science and rejects voodoo economics, and whose domestic platform would not engineer the largest upward redistribution of resources in American history. Even if the relatively sober Jeb Bush wins the nomination, he will have to accommodate himself to his party’s barking-mad consensus. She is non-crazy America’s choice by default. And it is not necessarily an exciting choice, but it is an easy one, and a proposition behind which she will probably command a majority.”

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  1. FTG says:

    God help this country if this is the best the country has to offer America. Power and greed the (2) driving forces with America in 2nd position. Hillary is better know for what? How about electing someone with “substance”.

  2. Delaware Dem says:

    All Republican candidates are disqualified.

  3. Prop Joe says:

    @FTG: “How about electing someone with ‘substance’?”

    Oh wise sage of the message board… Please enlighten us as to which of the 206 GOP candidates fit this bill? And being full of shit doesn’t not count as “substance”…

  4. liberalgeek says:

    Chait may have buried the lede. If you put the “Unless the economy goes into a recession over the next year and a half” qualifier in there, it points out that the last hope the R’s have is blowing shit up. That is playing to their strengths.

    Somewhere there is Republican strategist trying to figure out how to frame Obama for a tanked economy of his creation.

  5. mouse says:

    I’m anxious to vote against the Republicans

  6. Anonymous says:

    ” What difference…. does it make?”
    Bill’s indiscretions were a “right Wing conspiracy”
    “We were dead broke.” Oh, tax return for last year in office; $416,039. Just before leaving the White House, Hillary recv’d an $8 million advance on her book.

    Reality check!!

  7. FTG says:

    Prop Joe…the usual rebuttal with vulgarity when faced with reality that in the last 6.5 years this admin of which Hillary has been part of has destroyed the middle class, piled on massive debt, 48 million on food stamps, lowest labor participation rate in 37 year, foreign policy of appeasement and retreat. How is that for starters. Please inform us of the (3) accomplishments under Hillary. Respect and trust is earned…it is not a given!!!!

  8. Dave says:

    The simple fact is Republicans have no ability to govern. Sure the Democrats have their foibles and they have a habit of reaching for the sky with step ladder (all or nothing or all in). But generally they can govern. The Republicans are somewhat like the Keystone Kops who trip over their feet, step on their d**k, and pretty much all thumbs, or even a better metaphor – all hat and no cattle.

    Democrats have always been pie in the sky, but along the way the Democrats actually learned to exhibit some pragmatism. Some progressives will say they lost their way. I say they learned that Rome wasn’t built in a day. The only thing the Republicans learned was to torch the place. The Republicans used to be serious people. Now they are just clowns. It really is sad, but as a famous person once said “It is what it is.” Maybe Clinton won’t take the world by storm, but if all we get is quiet governance out of her, I will be satisfied with that.

  9. Jason330 says:

    Reality…?

    “this admin…has destroyed the middle class” What we need are more tax cuts….am I right? In fact, trickle-down economics, off shoring manufacturing, and undercutting the power of unions have dealt the middle class a heavy blow. Maybe we can agree on that much?

    “piled on massive debt” Simply not true. Perhaps you are thinking of George W. Bush or Saint Ronny?

    “foreign policy of appeasement and retreat” Right. Anything other that bombing the shit out of everyone is appeasement and retreat.

    I’m glad this is what the GOP will be running on. Obama/Clinton hatred draped in wingnut nonsense.

  10. cassandra_m says:

    Hey, when the delusional rusty dils shows himself around here, let him know that Carly Fiorina was ranked the 19th worst American CEO of All Time. HP lost half of its stock value while she was posing for the cameras.

  11. puck says:

    ” 19th worst American CEO of All Time.”

    Remember we are talking about the party that nominated George W. Bush.

  12. Tom McKenney says:

    @ FTG You must know that you are talking complete nonsense. The decline of the country began in 1980 with a series of so called conservative presidents. Except for GHWB they engaged in a policy of un-tax and spend. They have put our country deep in debt and did their best to trample the rights of workers. Even stranger they sided with corporate management over the rights of shareholders. My guess that is because management directs contributions to political campaigns aka bribery.

  13. Prop Joe says:

    @FTG: I’m just going to lay low and let Jason330 & Tom “Terrific” McKenney man the “Truth Howitzer” for now. If it gets to be too much for you to handle, might I suggest the following readings to soothe your terrified soul?:

    1) http://www.ndn.org/blog/2015/01/comparing-economic-record-last-two-democratic-and-republican-presidents

    2) http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/getting-lucky-why-the-economy-has-grown-faster-under-democratic-presidents/

  14. ben says:

    Joe, PBS is a George Soros-funded left wing muckity muck. NDN… what does that even stand for Nasty DemocRAT nasties? Dont you know? Only Fox and Infowars can be trusted. Everything else was written BY Obama himself. FTG knows the truth.

  15. Geezer says:

    @FTG: You don’t get to undermine the president’s program and then complain that it doesn’t work. If they really thought stimulus wouldn’t work, they would have let it happen and gotten out of the way. On the contrary, they knew it would work so they did all they could to prevent it from doing so.

    Anyone who buys it is either stupid or criminal. Which are you?