Paul Ryan on Trump’s Muslim Ban
A curious statement by Speaker Paul Ryan, who hasn’t really spoken out on the presidential campaign so far, as Jason weighed in on earlier. Seems like Trump’s latest “policy” may have crossed a line for the establishment GOP and Ryan just might be signaling a willingness to alienate the Donald from the party as a whole.
“This is not conservatism. What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for. And, more importantly, it’s not what this country stands for,” Ryan said today at a news conference on Capitol Hill. “Not only are there many Muslims serving in our armed forces dying for this country, there are Muslims serving right here in the House working every day to uphold and to defend the Constitution.”
He’s right in that the GOP (or any political party) should not stand for the lunacy of throwing out an entire population of people because of their religion. That’s actually a level-headed thing for him to say, even for a Republican. The GOP stands for a whole host of other ridiculous things though (defund PP, cutting top 1%’s taxes, anti-gun control, Medicare vouchers, eliminating food stamps and TANF, repealing Obamacare, etc) but refusing to let an entire demographic of people in to (or back in to) the Country, even if they’re American citizens? That’s just crazy talk and in no way would the “real” GOP support something like that.
Maybe Ryan speaking out like this is exactly what is needed to start shutting down Trump’s insanity, lest he continue on and win the nomination.
Asked whether he would support Trump as the GOP presidential nominee, Ryan said he would support “whoever the nominee is.”
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I’ve been wrong about Trump so many times that I don’t dare think of this as some sort of turning point. But.. this has to be some sort of turning point, right?
It got the Speaker to speak. Even if he ended up equivocating in the end, Ryan still went in front of the press and said “This guy’s full of crap”.
Then there’s the matter of Joe Scarborough breaking to commercial this morning when Trump wouldn’t shut up so they could ask him questions. I know it was Trump on MSNBC, but it’s not often a host breaks on the fly because a guest won’t stop talking.
Might just be a turning point, question is where is it turning to?
Primary the RINO lol
The GOP stands for a whole host of ridiculous things like repealing Obama care, and the vast majority of the country also want to repeal Obama care. I guess that makes the vast majority of the country ridiculous
Vast majority? According to who? There have been pluralities both sides of overall favorability of the law, depending on what poll you look at. A “vast” majority of those identifying as Republicans favor repeal. An actual majority of Americans would like to see the law modified and improved so it works better and covers more people.
Kicking people off their health insurance just because it’s Obama’s law is a sure way to turn 20 million Americans against your party.
Data
@ Brian Rate increase’s all over the place. Your data is from April, you can throw that in the trash!!
http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/02/news/economy/obamacare-rates/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us/health-insurance-companies-seek-big-rate-increases-for-2016.html?_r
http://www.delawareinsurance.gov/departments/rates/Public-Comments-Submitted-Regarding-2016-Rate-Increases.pdf?updated
The ACA did NOTHING to control costs:
You can pay $1.50 for Tylenol in the hospital, that is 1000% markup
Pet scans 400% markup
CT scans 1100% markup
You can go on and on.
I thought some of the points in the ACA were good.
1. Keeping 25 year old’s on your policy
2. Preexisting condition.
The ACA is crap and needs to be repealed AND BOTH SIDES NEED TO WORK ON A BETTER PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE!!
3. Removing benefit caps.
4. 85% of revenue must be used directly for healthcare
5. Insurance marketplace
No, I don’t think I’ll throw it in the trash. As long as we have private, for-profit insurance companies as the primary insurer rates will go up every year. Rate increases have been all over the place since way before Obamacare was a thing. It’s just too easy to use it as the scapegoat because it’s Obama.
The number of Americans who now have health insurance because of the ACA will probably disagree with you on cost control.
The ACA isn’t perfect by any stretch. But it was a big step in the right direction. Now if we could have politicians actually work on improving it, it might actually have more of an impact on the markups you’re talking about, even though markup and actual price paid are never the same amount.
Why repeal when you can work with what you have and modify it so it works better? Or are you telling me that there’s no way to improve the existing law at all?
What would a better plan look like to you?
@A “The ACA is crap and needs to be repealed AND BOTH SIDES NEED TO WORK ON A BETTER PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE!!”
Sure. Single payer is the way to go. That’s what nearly every other country has.
But repeal is totally wrong. The ACA is FAR better than the whole fake insurance scam that we had before. The reduction in medical bankruptcies and the many lives saved made it well worth doing.
It’s just really too bad that the rent seekers blocked the public option (i.e. single payer) when the ACA was drafted.
“The ACA is crap and needs to be repealed AND BOTH SIDES NEED TO WORK ON A BETTER PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE!!”
THAT IS PRETTY FUNNY CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ONE SIDE HAS BEEN PRETTY OPEN NOT WANTING TO FIX ANYTHING, AND IS ONLY INTERESTED IN FUCKING SHIT UP.
Why pass something that made it worse?
Nancy Pelosi: “We have to pass the bill, so we can see what is in it.” Must be one of yours, if I’m not mistaken.
ACA
Now higher administration costs.
They FAILED to control drug costs!
Deductibles and Co-Pay are out the roof.
ACA has spent trillions!!!!
Taxpayer money spent on advertising for the law (a law White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said needed no advertising): $684 million and counting…and that was in 2014!
Here’s the bottom line. They forced this on the American people, wasted all this money. When they should have worked together, to go to a single payer system. Unfortunately, YOU ALL voted for a President who does not lead, but DIVIDES!
I can see facts and data will be lost on you. You hate Obama and thus anything attached to him. I get it. I can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. You get handed a fact, like the ACA costing less than originally projected or a majority of Americans support improving it and then you switch to “BUT OBAMA!!!!!”
Obvious troll is obvious.
You are unhinged.
By the by, all those cost increases happened before ACA too. But now 20 million more people actually have health insurance. I know I know. “BUT OBAMA!”
ACA also started as a single payer law. Guess which party refused to support that? Then refused to support government option with private insurance? Then refused to support any reform at all?
@Brian. You are apparently getting roped into the left of the left. As most of the others are. You failed to read what I said and agree with:
Let me say it again:
“When they should have worked together, to go to a single payer system.”
What happened was they put lipstick on a pig!
“By the by, all those cost increases happened before ACA too.” Your a dreamer, get with reality. We are paying out the butt, for everyone else. Our elected officials didn’t have the ______ to go after the money….the insurance companies. The Doc’s are spending a fortune on administration costs. I’ll take Canada’s Healthcare anyday, as long as Canada runs it, here. You really want our elected officials to run Healthcare? Let’s take it to the State level. THEY MAKE BAD BUSINESS DECISIONS!!!
Oh I read it. And as I said, facts and reason are lost on you. You don’t even understand the basic concept of insurance. Everybody puts in to the pool to pay for everybody else. No matter what style of healthcare we have, private vs. public insurance, EVERYONE pays for everyone else.
I’ve worked in the field long enough to know how insurance was before ACA, and how it is now after ACA implementation. It was shitty before ACA, it’s slightly less shitty now. Single payer was (and is) the goal. Neither party wanted it. Dems passed a legally mandated private service purchase law. That part sucks. What doesn’t suck is that millions more people have access to care, a point you seem to gloss over every time it’s written out for you.
Nowhere in anything I’ve written have I said it’s a good system. What I have said is that it’s better than what we had. Nuking it and starting over is just stupid. We already took a small step forward, it’s better to take another step forward than to walk backwards. What sense is there in allowing insurance companies to start kicking people off their plan and denying coverage for pre-existing conditions again? What sense is there in letting them cap your benefits at a max dollar amount again? That’s what repeal gets you. You don’t repeal something unless you’ve got something to replace it with. Republicans don’t want to replace it. They want to get rid of it period.
And if you don’t believe that costs and premiums were through the roof before the ACA, I’m not sure where you’ve been living because it hasn’t been in the US.
@A “They FAILED to control drug costs!”
Do you know why? Who is to blame for that? Who insisted that drug prices could not be negotiated?
“What happened was they put lipstick on a pig!”
Do you know who is to blame for no single payer option?
Why are you even a Republican? You seem to hate everything that has been done by the party you apparently love…
The reason you cant fix the unaffordable care act is that you cant fix socialism. If you want to see the right market based health care plan, called the”simple health care reform law”, go to http://www.zeropovertybook.com and buy the book.
Rusty, I’ve got some bad news for you if you think Socialism isn’t alive and well, benefiting 300 million people in this country.
@RD “If you want to see the right market based health care plan,”
Been there.. done that… Mostly scam insurance and rank exploitation.
Unless the market is regulated (i.e. socialism), then all you get are scams and exploitation. Before the ACA, most privately sold insurance was a scam of sorts. (“I’m sorry… you got sick, so we dropped your insurance.”)(“I’m sorry… We think that was a preexisting condition.”)(“I’m sorry… your bills have exceeded our benefits maximum.”)
Only such “socialism” has chased the healthcare charlatans out of town.
“Rusty, I’ve got some bad news for you if you think Socialism isn’t alive and well, benefiting 300 million people in this country.”
Pre-Welfare(socialist) state, from 1866-1918, average wages doubled in CONSTANT DOLLARS. For the last 40 years, with our welfare state, and war on poverty, which has been a dramatic increase in socialism in our country, average wages in CONSTANT DOLLARS, have not increased at all. So Brian explain how that is helping 300 million people who never are able to get an increase in wage growth.