The Official DL Democratic Presidential Primary Candidates List of People You Must Not Smear With Crazed Russian Memes and Ad Hominem Attacks
One of these people* will be the nominee so shove your Russian Sluzhba Vneshney Razvedki (SVR) memes up your ass.
- Bernard Sanders
- Kamala Harris
- Beto O’Rourke
- Pete Buttigieg
*This list will be updated as the race unfolds. In the meantime please concetrate on supporting your camnddiate of choice and not being an agent of Russian intellegence services.
The horrible Claire McCaskill, who is now a semi-regular on ‘Morning Joe’, was saying this AM that Bernie would have to be more of a team player this time.
Because campaigning tirelessly for Hillary while she spent her time raising $$’s in NYC and SF just wasn’t enough.
And, somewhere in obscurity, Hillary’s proctologist was going apoplectic b/c Bernie’s doing a town hall meeting in Pa. on Fox. Some Russian dupes (‘Bernie Bros’) never learn.
The reasoning, as best I can tell, is that an illegitimate candidate appearing on an illegitimate cable channel somehow legitimizes both.
Interesting math.
Claire McCaskill has no stomach for a fight unless it is a fight against a Democrat.
Stay wholesome.
Saw my first Russian anti-Pete Buttigieg meme. It had to do wth the fact that Pete (apparently) supports Israel in its goal to kill all Palestinians.
It’s not just Russians. Conservatives who were initially intrigued by Mayor Pete changed their tune quickly once he took in some money and rose in the polls:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservatives-have-no-idea-how-to-handle-mayor-pete-buttigieg?ref=home
They’re also red-baiting him because his father was a Marxist:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-grotesque-red-baiting-of-mayor-pete-3?ref=home
Cool
For someone who was completely unknown 4 months ago, I guess having the opposition so rattled is a good thing,
“his father was a Marxist”
Ahh, I see we are into the labeling phase. A necessary prelude to discussions about policies and issues, cause policies and issues need labels as well. Whatever would we do if we didn’t have our “ism” matrix?
We gots a socialist and Marxist. I assume at least one of the crowd is a capitalist. They are all Dems, so of course there are no fascists. We still need a communist though, or does a Marxist count for that? Beto doesn’t have his ist label yet and of course we’ll have a centrist in either Bloomberg or Biden. Would Gillibrand be the feminist?
Such important considerations as the labels ought not to be left indeterminate for too long. The electorate needs this critical information by the time the election rolls around.
“We still need a communist though, or does a Marxist count for that?”
Should I answer this? I presume since you’re a mature worldly intellectual you know this answer already.
Just say you don’t stand for anything but “what we can accomplish”, which, as I mentioned before, we can’t ever know. And based on not taking a real position on anything won’t be very much.
Sarcasm is unrecognizable on the Internet. We need emoji. I’ll explain. Alby and I have had discussions a few years back about the utility of labels and the insistence of people in assigning labels. He asserts there is some utility. I believe that they predispose and biases people and distracts from their consideration of the issues.
My comment was snark about the spilling ink on an exercise I consider idiotic and pointless.
As far as “what we can accomplish,” we most certainly do know some things we can accomplish. We can accomplish immigration reform. We can create a Marshall Plan for Central American right now. We can accomplish path to citizenship for Dreamers. We can accomplish improvements to ACA. We can accomplish reduction in drug prices for people, ad nauseam. These things are realistic goals and objectives that would make people’s live better right now.
And yeah, none of those things are particularly aspirational, but it helps people, so I don’t care.
@Dave: Keep in mind that these labels are being affixed not by the candidates themselves but by their opponents, giving them a sort of negative utility. Name-calling, if you will.
They do this because it often works. Think how often you hear campaign types talking about defining yourself before your opponents define you.
@REV: I had dinner last night with two Boomer-aged worldly intellectuals who live in the U.S. six months a year; neither was born there. Both of them are doing the same sort of triangulation. On a purely policy basis they prefer Bernie, but they think he faces too much internal opposition from Democrats to win — that is, they think many will simply stay home in November if he’s the nominee.
I don’t know if this is a Boomer trait or not; it’s just anecdotal. I relate it as anecdotal evidence that this attitude is more widespread than one would hope.
I’ll make a note of it. As I’ve said before, I think my time and resources are not best spent trying to work-out what other people I don’t know may or may not do.
I could just as easily say that someone who voted for Jill Stein or didn’t vote at all in 2016 will vote for Bernie.
Just as an aside my Boomer parents say the same thing as your dinner guests. Their friends who own shore homes and apartments in Florida would never vote for Bernie. No fucking shit.
You’re chasing the wrong constituency.
Not chasing it at all. Just relaying the information. And it’s not that they themselves wouldn’t vote for him — they are basing their opinion on what they think other people they don’t know will do. The point being that what metrics people use to make their choices vary widely.
The “I’d vote for him if I thought he could win” constituency seems worth chasing to me. YMMV.
I feel like we tried this move before. I don’t remember what happened.
The only way you convince those I’d-vote-for-him-if-I-thought-he-could-win people is to convince them that this is foolish and silly.
But people want to believe they are savvy operators.
Good point.
On a related note, Daily Kos runs an on-site poll every week or every other week asking people who they’d vote for. I usually choose Bernie, but this week I chose Elizabeth Warren because Bernie wins every time, usually by a lot.
So this week he won, but with an 11-point drop from last time, which Kos crowed about. The knives are out for him.