Right-Wing Christian Domestic Terrorist Sentenced To Life
Scott Roeder, the right-wing Christian domestic terrorist, was sentenced to life for the murder of Dr. George Tiller.
Scott Roeder, the right-wing Christian domestic terrorist, was sentenced to life for the murder of Dr. George Tiller.
Good. I did not want him to die. Rather, I would prefer it is he were sent to solitary with no contact whatsoever with any human beings ever again.
Correct the header. He can’t be a terrorist because he is white.
He got the “hard 50” which means he won’t be eligible for parole until he’s 102.
I’m offended by the sentence. He should be dispatched to hell with all deliberate speed.
And I say that as one who held George Tiller in contempt because of the dirty, evil deeds he committed in his professional life.
Tiller saved more lives than you, Moose.
Go back to knowing nothing, please.
And took more, too.
At least according to the wife of one of my longtime friends, who is a neo-natal specialist at the hospital just down the street from Tiller’s own little killing field.
You know, someone who on a daily basis saved the lives of babbies just like the ones Tiller was paid to kill.
Can’t kill what’s not alive, dude.
But hey, a cousin of a friend of a former band camp bunk mate told me that.
Except, Von Crackhead, an unborn child is alive by any scientifically accepted definition of life.
ANM: According to any scientific definition, a fetus is not capable of INDEPENDENT life. Seriously, chief — like most conservatives the only history you know is the pap spoon-fed you by the ignoramuses you adore. You don’t like abortions, don’t get one. Do a little research on who Dr. Tiller’s patients actually were — 12-year-olds who, by definition, are pregnant through abuse (I don’t believe any state has an age of consent as low as 12) and mothers who never thought they’d undergo abortion until they learned their babies have physical defects that will condemn them to brief (hours or days), painful lives.
If you really dislike abortion, get behind a campaign to provide birth control for everyone. Otherwise, stop your posing. Conservatives have exactly ONE issue — this one — on which they believe in moral absolutism. On all others, their mantra is, “Democrats do it, too.” You’re probably too stupid to realize it, but that’s a textbook example of the moral relativism you claim to despise.
“(I don’t believe any state has an age of consent as low as 12)”
The dream Teabag Republic. No taxes, no science and no age of consent. Women owned by men like chattel. Basically the Taliban with Jesus instead of Allah.
12-year-olds who, by definition, are pregnant through abuse
Two points:
1) Then I assume that you believe that Dr. Tiller and his staff should have reported each and every one of these cases to the appropriate state authorities for investigation and prosecution. You know, under the state’s mandatory reporter law for child abuse.
2) While I’m in general agreement about these cases likely being abusive, don’t forget that some of these cases come from what pandora yesterday described as normal experimentation among young people — take it from a teacher who each year has ninth graders enter his class as parents.
By the way — I find it odd that I’ve been attacked here for complaining that Tiller’s killer did not receive a sufficient sentence, and that I view Tiller’s murder as unacceptable despite my contempt for his work as an abortionist.
1) Many of the cases came from outside the state of Kansas, which hence had no jurisdiction. Anything told to the doctor would also fall under doctor-client privilege. Seriously, you’ll look for any reason to do anything but reconsider your asshole opinion, won’t you?
2) I don’t give any more a shit about what you think about his murderer than what you think about the victim. For about the millionth time, NOBODY here gives a shit what you think about anything. But, as long as you’re spewing your ignorant opinions, please realize that you have no idea who got those girls pregnant. A lot of family abuse is covered up by claiming it was “sexual experimentation.”
No matter. The key element here is that the law has decided the mother has rights that supersede those of the fetus. Most of us here agree with that law. If you want to curb abortion, do it some other way. Demonizing people ain’t gonna cut that mustard.
Dr. Tiller is already serving his sentence.
1) But reporting to Kansas authorities would still have been required — believe it or not, such reports then get forwarded to law enforcement/child protective services in other states. They do have telephones in Kansas, don’t they?
2) You are right, i don’t know who got the girls pregnant — which is why a responsible medical professional should have been making reports. Thank you for confirming that Tiller was not one.
3) In light of your hateful response to me, all I have to say in response is Have A Happy And Joyous Easter.
“But reporting to Kansas authorities would still have been required — believe it or not, such reports then get forwarded to law enforcement/child protective services in other states. They do have telephones in Kansas, don’t they?”
Check out the part about doctor/patient privilege again, sporto. Kansas wants to track down abusers, it does not and should not force doctors to do it. What part about this don’t you understand? Or are you trying really, really hard not to? By the way, I have no idea whether Tiller did this or not — only that he should not have.
Hateful? You don’t know the half of it, asshole. At least I know when I’m hateful. You’re just a moralistic asshole with, heaven forbid, a roomful of impressionable children to educate.
Good, the law can’t be taken in one’s own hands in that way. It would be anarchy. Tiller was a disgusting murder, but we can’t have free lance vigilanties.
Wrong, geezer — doctor/patient confidentiality does not apply in such cases. That isn’t an opinion — that is a law in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Indeed, failure to make such reports is a legal basis for losing one’s medical license.
Yeah, what Geezer said, Moose-uh-er-head, you clever shit you.
And David, yes, Tiller’s was a disgusting murder.
Per usual…they opened their mouths and removed all doubt.
By the way, here is the information on who is a legally mandated reporter of abuse in Kansas.
Q: Who is required to report child abuse or neglect
under Kansas law?
A: (A) The following persons providing
medical care or treatment: Persons licensed
to practice the healing arts, dentistry,
and optometry; persons engaged in postgraduate
training programs approved by the
state board of healing arts; licensed professional
or practical nurses; and chief administrative
officers of medical care facilities;
(B) the following persons licensed
by the state to provide mental health services:
Licensed psychologists, licensed masters level
psychologists, licensed clinical psychotherapists,
licensed social workers, licensed marriage
and family therapists, licensed clinical
marriage and family therapists, licensed professional
counselors, licensed clinical professional
counselors and registered alcohol and
drug abuse counselors;
(C) teachers, school administrators
or other employees of an educational institution
which the child is attending and persons
licensed by the secretary of health and environment
to provide child care services or the
employees of persons so licensed at the
place where the child care services are being
provided to the child; and
(D) firefighters, emergency medical
services personnel, law enforcement officers,
juvenile intake and assessment workers, court
service officers and community corrections
officers, case managers appointed under
K.S.A. 2006 Sup. 23-1001 et seg., and amendments
thereto, and mediators appointed under
K.S.A. 23-602, and amendments thereto.
In addition to the reports, required under
subsection (a) (1), any person who has reason
to suspect that a child may be a child in
need of care may report the matter as provided
in subsection (b) and (c). Many cases of
child abuse are reported by concerned citizens
who are not required to report.
By the way, you might also be interested in what Delaware has to say about the matter, Geezer. I’m sure you’ll be rushing out to demand that the legislature repeal the mandate that medical professionals report child abuse and neglect — and will find a great deal of public support for making it easier for abusers to get away with their crimes.
Utter conflation, not that Knuckle would notice such a thing.