My Close Encounter With A December 21, 2012 Believer
It was supposed to be a relaxing evening catching up with what’s been going on in our lives over wine and my awesome cucumber, basil and peanut Thai salad, but that isn’t the way it turned out.
For a solid two hours I listened to my friend go on about the upcoming “Enlightenment” that would occur on 12/21/12. I’m sorry to admit that the word “crazy” left my mouth far too often last night, and that feelings might have been hurt, but… there simply isn’t another word for this stuff. It’s crazy.
Don’t believe me? Here’s a list of what I was told last night. This is going to be a bit of a mess since the conversation jumped all over the place. But here are the key points:
1. On 12/21/12 an “Enlightenment” will happen that will give certain people the truth. I’m not really sure who exactly who will receive this truth, or what this truth is, and when I asked that question I was told it would be like Harry Potter. Wizards = Truth, Muggles = Not truth. Huh? She further explained how the Muggles couldn’t see the Wizards. Except, I pointed out, for that time that Harry and Ron stole Ron’s Father’s flying car and they got in big trouble with the Ministry of Magic. Hey, I tried for levity.
2. There are things (I must have missed exactly what things) that are, and will always be unprovable because they’re… mystical? I countered with, there’s a difference between unprovable and not yet discovered and was told I was wrong and that they are unprovable and that is why these things are miracles. I pointed out that popcorn was a miracle if you didn’t know how it worked.
3. This day of Enlightenment is connected to the Mayan Calendar, UFOs and Sacred Geometry. In fact, there is an alien counter force to the light. These dark aliens are part lizard and they survive on fear. There’s also proof of this dark/light battle. Right now the Light group is destroying the Dark’s compounds and we are feeling the effects in the form of unexplained earthquakes. Go on, google it. She made me do it and when I found a scientific explanation I was told that there’s a conspiracy to hide the truth.
At this point I poured my third glass of wine and flat out refused to google UFO sightings and the Mayan calendar. She then went on about Joseph Campbell and Rudolph Steiner and something about the Buela Burger Group in Scotland. Wasn’t able to google that since the way I’m spelling it doesn’t bring up anything, and she didn’t know how to spell it.
I was struggling by this time, and really resented the way she treated/dismissed actual science, but I really flipped when…
4. she claimed that a physicist (forgive me, I don’t recall his name and I’m not going to email her about this because I don’t want to encourage this behavior) she heard speak at Princeton had discovered the meaning of life, the reason we are here. I said, no, he had a theory. She got very upset and told me he had proof. I said something snarky like, I must have been reading about Taylor Swift’s latest break up and missed the headline touting this scientific breakthrough.
I was pretty desperate at this point. I simply wanted the conversation to end without completely losing it. And it dawned on me that even though she kept relying on her “science” that this was her religion.
Which brings us to Sacred Geometry.
Sacred geometry is the geometry used in the planning and construction of religious structures such as churches, temples, mosques, religious monuments, altars, tabernacles; as well as for sacred spaces such as temenoi, sacred groves, village greens and holy wells, and the creation of religious art. In sacred geometry, symbolic and sacred meanings are ascribed to certain geometric shapes and certain geometric proportions.
Everybody with me so far? Good, then you’re ready for her explanation of Sacred Geometry.
5. To make me understand Sacred Geometry she asked me what happened when a sperm met an egg. I said they formed a zygote. I was wrong. She then repeated the question until I found the answer she was looking for – they divide in two. She became very excited, apparently I had answered my first correct question of the evening. She then asked me what happened next. Hey, I’m no dummy – I knew she wasn’t looking for zygotes, implementation, etc. – so I said it divides again, into four. Yes! Yes! Yes! She was really excited, and continued down this path of asking me what happened next. One, Two, Four, Eight. I drew the line at 16. That, she said, is Sacred Geometry.
In the name of my sanity, I once again resorted to humor. I asked which came first? The Sacred Geometry or the egg? Needless to say, she didn’t find my cleverness the least bit funny.
There was more, but it’s all a blur. Part of me is feeling guilty over losing it several times, and using the word crazy. But, hello? Lizard aliens? Earthquakes that are really an alien battle underground? But the fact is she’s a nice person, and I probably wasn’t so nice. She’s a friend through marriage, so I don’t know her that well and didn’t see this coming. Truthfully, I was shocked – and it takes a lot to shock me. Even more frightening, she is planning her life around this event, and her brother has left his job over this. Not kidding.
Throughout the entire experience the word cult kept entering my mind, mainly because this wasn’t a discussion. No matter what I said, I was wrong and all my sources are simply part of a conspiracy to keep the truth from me.
I debated on whether to write about this, and finally decided to do so because…
First, I had never heard this stuff before, and who better than the DL community to go to for answers.
and…
Second, I have the keys to this place (Bwhahaha!)
Tags: Crazy stuff, Mayan Calendar
At least we can stop worrying about the fiscal cliff.
whatever people need to tell themselves that makes them feel better about being the product of a freak chemical reaction that resulted in self-aware meat-sacks suck on a rock who’s short, meaningless lives dont even effect our direct cosmic neighborhood. Who knows, maybe a placebo effect will cause millions of people to re-evaluate how they treat each other…. or cause one crazy person to fire all the missiles.
WHAT!!! No no no, she’s got it all wrong, see the Zeta aliens (little gray men) are tracking all of this and they have been in direct contact with a Ms. Nancy Lieder http://www.zetatalk.com/.
The world is going to get hit by an object many refer to as Nibiru.
However simultaneously—-“Tibetan lamas do not hide the fact that the risk of a serious accident is quite large: in late December, the Solar system planets line up in a row, which is a unique case. In his message to NASA lama monastery Gyandrek under Kailas, known as the Oracle of Shambhala, said that on December 21 2012, the Earth, along with the solar system passes through the galactic “zero band” “Fall and winter will be warm, and from 12/21/2012 Earth will begin to pass through the galactic” zero band.
“This is a special state space where the blanked and not be subject to any energy. Was complete darkness and silence. The electricity and communications. Darkness will be accompanied by flashes of light, as well as the play of light and shadow. Sometimes it may seem that roam figures – as if the dead rose from their graves. earth will shake slightly – like a small earthquake. Some buildings can be destroyed “- warned Lama.
“Animals feel the earth before the coming of the” cosmic dark “and go to ground – said the monk. – People in cities do not feel so are the victims of insanity. Can be lost 10% of the population. End of the world will radically change the outlook of people, according to Oracle Shambhala. It will become more spiritual. In developed and developing countries will blossom variety of scientific and spiritual teachings, systems development and health of the individual. “This will be the most important impetus to the progress of mankind for a long time,” – concludes the monk. From http://beforeitsnews.com/2012/2012/11/updates-on-the-3-days-of-darkness-tibetan-monks-make-a-statement-for-nasa-12-21-2012-2439214.html
How can you NOT KNOW THIS?!?! —I really don’t believe this stuff either.
I was truly shocked, and simply couldn’t extricate myself from the situation. I had never heard of this stuff. Hence, my tapping into the DL brain trust.
What was really disturbing was how adamant she was and how everything I said was simply wrong, or part of a conspiracy. Look, I’ve known her for a while and I would have never guessed she believed this stuff. I’m actually kinda worried about her.
And I didn’t even get into her mystical experiences or her brother’s UFO encounter.
Bob, that came really close to summing up my evening. 😉
As long as she doesn’t think tax cuts for the rich create growth, she’s probably still OK.
You invited my mother to dinner and didn’t tell me? For shame.
The physicist, by the way, is named Frank Tripler (I think it is only one “p”) who wrote two books, “The Physics of Immortality” and “The Physics of Christianity.” He really is (or was, pre-publication) a pretty well-known physicist with degrees from all the right places and a major teaching/research gig. He set this all up like a theoretical proof, and suggested experiments that would falsify his theory.
Ironically, his theory (first promulgated in the early 1990s) is heavily based on a universe model that requires a Big Crunch to balance out the Big Bang, and he stated rather explicitly that if the numbers worked out so that the universe just kept expanding and never crunched, then everything he wrote be invalid.
Not long after that, the main scientific consensus (driven by an increasing understanding of dark matter and dark energy) shifted pretty certainly to a model with a forever-expanding universe with no Big Crunch, which–unfortunately or not (depends on your perspective)–shot the hell out of the Physics of Christianity.
And–believe it or not–all of the above is true.
Really, Steve? Can you shed light on this?
stuff like this reminds of this article
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/us/20rapture.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
I always sort of wondered what happened in that family with the three teenagers the next day.
I’m not scared of 12/21/2012, I’m scared of the people who BELIEVE it. If you thought the world was ending, why shoudl you follow the rules?
Also, the reason NASA has been working so hard to debunk this is because one of the guys there has been getting letters from 11 year olds wondering if they should commit suicide
http://gawker.com/5965320/nasa-scientist-says-many-young-people-contemplating-suicide-over-2012-doomsday-rumors
It was Tipler, not Tripler… and your numbers are wrong.
Isaac Newton’s estimate was 2060 AD.
Projections vary.
Isaac Newton’s estimate was 2060 AD.
Projections for what? Do you believe this stuff, Mynym? Also, what numbers are wrong?
If you thought the world was ending, why shoudl you follow the rules?
Integrity.
Why should you “follow the rules” based on imaginary brain events emerging from the void of a black hole?
Projections for what?
The end.
Do you believe this stuff, Mynym?
No. But as far as the end of the world as we know it, everyone’s light goes out sometime and the sun won’t always come out tomorrow.
Or do you mean all that stuff about sacred geometry referring to an occult/hidden dimension to the brains between the temples that built the ancient temples and all the rest of it? Would you prefer an answer in hieroglyphics, the language of mathematics or thousands of words? I’ll tell you what I believe if you tell me what you believe.
Also, what numbers are wrong?
Just a play on words, doesn’t matter…
Here, this might help since I probably only found this by resonance and synchronicity anyway. Mysticism and resonance is like sex. People do strange things with it but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have to do with giving birth to knowledge as we know it.
My head hurts.
I heard it all from my sister before the world last ended in May. It helps to understand that religion to the mind is like AIDS to the body. Rather than destroy the mind, however, it leaves it in a weakened, or near-vegetative state that is open only to the influences of superstition, bigotry, and greed. The brain damage is so diffuse and widespread, there is no reasoning with these types – they are a lost cause.
Right now, some tribal clergyman or woman (because i refuse to say “witch doctor” is predicting an End Times Date that people, 300 years from now, will get all worked up over.
I think it is the human ego. We want so badly to be important and distinct. What could be a more important group of people then the LAST group of people? We dont really even have to do anything to become it. Just be here on the last day, whenever it is.
I kinda wish we WERE in for a mass shift in consciousnesses. we could sure use one.
My head hurts.
Of course.
Rather than destroy the mind, however, it leaves it in a weakened, or near-vegetative state that is open only to the influences of superstition, bigotry, and greed.
I think you may be confusing materialism with religion.
I kinda wish we WERE in for a mass shift in consciousnesses.
That’s unlikely.
Good point about the imaginary last group of people thing… although there will be some one day. People could look at it this way too, it’s surprising that we’ve done as well as we have before our extinction.
See you later.
Conspiracy and apocalypse are two of the constants of human belief, at least since recorded history. They exist because they provide an explanation for that which people do not understand and because they choose to remain ignorant. The information that the Mayan Long Count calendar is followed by a new b’ak’tun (14th baktun) is readily available but as is the case with all such people, they choose to remain ignorant of it.
This is just another case of belief overcoming logic, reason, and common sense. It is interesting that even with the instant availability of vast stores of information that the informed have gained almost no ground against the uninformed (ignorant) because the ignorant have used this vast store of information to validate their beliefs (I found it on the Internet, it must be true) in nearly equal measure to those who use information to become informed.
I think that this is because many beliefs are fear based. People are afraid but they don’t want to be afraid over nothing, so they seek confirmation that their fears have validity; that they are right to be afraid. It’s the prepper paradigm. They prepare because something bad is going to happen. They don’t want to look foolish with their effort for naught, so they seek confirmation of those fears (i.e. One World Government – UN – Agenda 21). It’s that easy for them.
On the other hand the optimists might be equally uninformed. They think something good will happen and seek the same confirmation for those beliefs. It could be that they are the ignorant ones. Still, choosing to live in fear when it would just as easy to live without fear seems an odd choice. After all the end will be the same, but those without fear will at least enjoy the ride.
Pandora – its the BILGABURGER GROUPS and the TRI-LATERAL COMMISSION …….
I grew up with this crazy crap. I rememeber asking the step mother if the three days of darnkness came did that mean
There was no school and did I still have to do homework. We had doomsday prepping supplies. Well, the sun came up and I went to school. We had several cycles of this crap.
I would steer clear and pray for an intervention…… Good luck!
Holy cow! I asked her last night if this had anything to do with the Tri-Lateral commission. She had never heard of it. I knew the DL community would come through for me. You guys know more than
the cult membermy friend.@dave
Lol. It the old adage- would u rather be right or be happy- coz y cant be both
They would rather be right about the doomsday sagas and seek confirmation …..so there fore they live in misery
In their world its better to be right than happy
In my world i could die tomorrow- so i eat dessert first …..drink good wine…..and tell my friends and family i love them , often
…… then go out and try every new thing under the sun……
“The information that the Mayan Long Count calendar is followed by a new b’ak’tun (14th baktun) is readily available but as is the case with all such people, they choose to remain ignorant of it.”
Killjoy.
BTW, the Bilderberg Group is a real thing, unless it’s an Onion-style spoof that’s been going on since 1954. It should tell you something that the left considers it a right-wing cabal that divvies up the fruits of capitalism, while the right considers it a front group for the inevitable threat of One World Government.
It tells me that there are as successful in their disinformatiion campaign as the mafia was too.
Pandora, I don’t know how to embed this but maybe you do . . .
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/dear-internet-people-in-2012.jpg
I fixed your link, Auntie! Very funny!
Using the large hadron collider on 12/21/12 to see if it will blow up the universe … seems like it is tempting fate.
Reminds me of colliding beams at SLAC to generate anti-matter in the late 90’s. Didn’t get any protests. Mostly cause no one really knew what we were doing. Of course, we didn’t either. Still, were all here. So alls well that ends well.
“It tells me that there are as successful in their disinformatiion campaign as the mafia was too.”
How so? It sounds like two definitions of the same thing. The joke is on anyone who thinks that a bunch of rich people would gather so they could figure out how to share all the power in the world — as if people interesting in gathering all the power in the world would then be willing to share it…
It also shows that suspicious, paranoid people can nevertheless be incredibly gullible.
Look folks, the Mayans got it wrong. The world ends the day I die. So everyone ought to help me stay in good health, or Earth buys the farm. This was predicted by a people so ancient, they didn’t have an alphabet to write it down with, so they carved my general outline onto the walls of the caves. They are infallible, since they also predicted how awesome I am, which is readily observable – that’s just science.
They also drew a man killing a mammoth, which is pretty fucking solid evidence that they called that one before anyone else.
@Pandora:
How does her claims differ from most world religions? Do you walk into a Christian church and claim they are crazy when they say some guy from Heaven has saved all of humanity? I mean, personally, I think you are a bit crazy for posting such a negative article on this woman. Maybe you should study it… and even if you don’t think what she said was true… think of it how I view the Bible: It’s a nice story. Leave it at that? This forum is pretty hateful, in my opinion.