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I can’t think of anything funny to say, but the thought of Bush striking a deal to get the Jews and Arabs to make nicey nice is hilarious on it’s face.

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  1. Von Cracker says:

    You can polish a turd all you want, but it’s still a turd….

  2. Brian says:

    My point being they are worth about the same. I cannot see how you can broker peace when the majority of the people affected are not involved….

  3. Me says:

    so brian you’ve seemed on the verge of rational … what’s the difference bush attempting to broker the peace and clinton’s attempt?

  4. donviti says:

    sorry me

    we don’t play the clinton did it too game. There is a huge difference and if you picked up a news paper to see what a joke this thing is you would stop making your self look any more foolish than you do as an E6 lifer

  5. Brian says:

    None, becuase they are both faking it. Until we change the foreign policy, we are not going to get out of the problems we are in and have true peace, or commerce with other nations.

  6. cassandra m says:

    Clinton certainly wasn’t faking it. Accounts from all parties involved note how tantalizingly close he got. Arafat could not step up. If anyone there was faking it, it was Arafat.

    It is interesting that BushCo is all about an Israeli Palestinian Peace Deal, when he was campaigning in 1999 dissing all such efforts to broker a peace deal. And, of course, his foreign policy team came in quite prepared to ignore the entire problem. Until now.

    Also Interesting to compare leadership at the end of the Clinton term vs now. All three leaders (US, Israeli, PLO) were relatively strong and had enough political capital to say Yes to peace. None of the three players now are nearly as strong and certainly have little political capital.

  7. Brian says:

    Sure, but it all related to the way we conduct our foreign policy. We build bases in the middle east, we attack people, sell more arms then medicines, and it has a increasingly apparent negative cumulative impact. If the people are not involved in the process it means it is a nice photo op.

  8. Me says:

    but if i picked up a newspaper it would detract from the time i could spend here tormenting LOSERs … oh but what I DID catch was the entire Arab world starting to RETHINK their positions on terror and that just MAYBE George Bush was on to something … oh and something else about the tribal warlords coming together against the insurgents … i never bought the idea that the “surge” was or wasn’t working as i have ALWAYS known how MANIPULATIVE CNN is … i saw it firsthand when i was HEAVILY involved in the invasion of Panama… yes donviti, i’m a girl and i didn’t run away like you you pussy when they said oh send all the families home … i had a job to do and it involved cryptographic materials at the Top Secret level, something E-6s get to do, but of course you wouldn’t know about that … CNN was making things up back then too about the Panamanian people … anybody taken a look at that hell hole lately since America left? so Brian you’re WAY off base… Clinton is a loser, always was and always will be … i have to go shower before i go to dana’s blog … he’s much too cool for the slime i pick up when i’m here …

  9. donviti says:

    I was a submariner I’m all to familiar with top secret stuff.

    try again Me….

    I agree Clinton is a loser. You make the common mistake of thinking all liberals liked him. I don’t think you will find many people on this site that are all ga-ga over Billy or Hillary.

    But if you think that the Arab world is thinking that these talks are worth something maybe you should pick up a few more papers besides right wing neo con supporting/pro Israel

  10. Brian says:

    “CNN was making things up back then too about the Panamanian people … anybody taken a look at that hell hole lately since America left? so Brian you’re WAY off base…”

    Ok me, you want to play tough I like that in a woman, but I need to hit you with some facts. Panama is a banana republic which gets Tons of US Aid and little oversight for drugs. Afghanistan is controlled by 54% Taliban as of today. Our Soldiers are in Iraq. Osama Bin Laden is free. We worry more about oil interests, and less about kid’s lives. And you mam, are making the mistake in thinking that everything that contradicts your world view is wrong. You are expressing some of the most extremist and radical views on the site, so I would hope you would learn to use the reasonable facility God gave you instead of just obeying.

    AND JUST FOR YOU FROM THE WORLD FACT BOOK:

    GENERAL MANUEL NORIEGA
    Chief of Defense Forces, Panama
    The US command post for covert Latin American operations is located in the Canal Zone where a series of figurehead presidents, some backed by General Manuel Noriega, had involved Panama in US intelligence operations. General Noriega became commander-in-chief of the National Guard in Panama in 1983, and for the next six years was more powerful than the President. He was the kind of ruthless leader the US favored in the rest of Central America. Noriega first met with then CIA Director George Bush in 1976, while Noriega was collecting $100 thousand a year as a CIA asset. Their friendly relationship persisted even after Noriega’s drug dealing was revealed by a 1975 DEA investigation. During the Reagan era, Noriega collaborated with Oliver North on covert actions against Nicaragua, training contras and providing a transshipment point for CIA supported operations that flew weapons to the contras and cocaine into the US.
    But he fell foul of the US when he failed to support their plan to invade Nicaragua — they withdrew aid and imposed sanctions. In 1987, a Miami grand jury indicted him for drug-trafficking, and the CIA tried to destabilize his regime. Noriega warned Bush that he had information which could change the course of the 1988 US elections and the CIA backed off. When Noriega annulled Panama’s 1989 elections, citing CIA interference, Bush renewed attempts to unseat his one-time ally. Critics called Bush’s failure to support an abortive 1989 coup “indecisive”, but his response to that criticism, the December 1989 invasion of Panama, led to world condemnation. Noriega eventually surrendered to face US drug charges. The invasion of 26,000 American troops led to over 4,000 Panamanian deaths and installed a regime with similar close links to drugs, plus a willingness to alter Panama Canal treaties to serve US interests.
    Noriega was taken prisoner and stood trial in Miami on charges of drug trafficking and was sentenced to 40 years’ imprisonment. He is still in a Florida jail contemplating the irony that he was once also the protégé of the US Drug Enforcement Agency. Meanwhile the legal office of the President the US installed in his place was discovered to have connections with 14 companies that had laundered drug money.